Being Somali HURTS - Doesnt it?

[ElfRuler]

I remember one time this white English woman was asking me to describe some man to her (long story short) and she said to me "was he black or Somali"? And I replied "huh Somalis are black" and she replied "you know what I mean". Even white people know the difference between us, it's said we don't.

I remember in school the black people used to discuss if Somalis are black and one time they said "Somalis are not black, they don't look like us" and another one said "They are black" then another one said "Just because you're from Africa doesn't make you black" I was sitting there like cool story bro. Anyway the moral of the story is we are not the same as these people. They don't think so, so why beg it. I'm never going to say I'm black again, I used to say it just to avoid the long shxt. NO ONE thinks we're black and for you idiots to argue that you are is begging to be something you're not.

You can't allow other people's ignorance to outweigh common sense. I've seen whites and Asians who make a clear distinction between Somalis and African-Americans. If you think about it, it's ridiculous that the Europeans can accept the diversity that exists within their racial group from the Norwegian to the hairy Arab looking guy living in Sicilia, while we actually pause to measure the width of some African person's nose to create unnecessary distinction. We keep forgetting that Somali features are not unique in Africa, and therefore should not be used as an excuse to justify why we are possibly not black. You could be black and still be Somali, since blacks come in different shades,textures, and physical features.


The skin is the largest organ of the body, and if we can't even clearly identify what color it is, then we are blind.

[SiennaEarth]

No booboo we are not madows. We have NOT been slaved. We do NOT have picky hair and we do NOT have their facial features. No doubt some of our skin colours may be black but that's probably the only thing we have in common with them. They do not like us nor consider us black, why one earth should we beg it? Turkish people have white skin and Turkey is in Europe does that make them white European? No they're TURKISH and are not considered white people.

[Bilis]

^Nah bro, Euphoriia makes a good point.

On a population level, only Somalis and neighboring groups in the Horn of Africa and parts of North Africa naturally have our features. Our genes, culture and language are, as a whole, also quite different from that of other Africans.

Except for linguistic differences, the same cannot be said for Arabs vis-a-vis Norwegians. They are much more similar than they are different.

[ElfRuler]

White people have been enslaved, Arabs have been enslaved, the Jews were enslaved, the Chinese have been enslaves, the South Americans have been enslaved. Almost everyone has endure some form of enslavement in one point in history. Enslavement is not a prerequisite for being considered black. And not all Africans have the same facial features to begin with. Not all Somalis have soft hair, slim nose and small-medium size lips, and not all other Africans have nappy hair, wide noses or big lips for that matter. The differences are minute when viewed from a global context. At the end of the day the avg white person will not bother to take the time to see the facial features of the dark skinned man he encountered, unless he wants to give a better description to the police.

Turkish people do consider themselves white and are dying to be a member of the European Union. Hell, even the Mexicans think they are part of the white race.

I think Somalis are just praying and hoping to be seen better than someone in the pyramid of racial hierarchy created by colonization, and our obsession with noses, hair texture and lips show that.

[hydrogen]

At the end of the day the avg white person will not bother . . .

Oh God, I was waiting for this line.

[ElfRuler]

At the end of the day the avg white person will not bother to take the time to see the facial features of the dark skinned man he encountered

Oh God, I was waiting for this line.

This coming from the person that denies her gender and skin complexion

[SiennaEarth]

No honestly, nothing wrong with black people and yes everyone has been enslaved at one point, lakeen that's not the case. Just because Turkish are dying to be European or white doesn't mean they are and just because we BEG to be black, yes some somalis literally BEG just to fit in with black community doesn't mean we are. We are not better than blacks nor is any human better than another in this world. This is not the case of I'm more superior, this is the case of our GENES and our IDENTITY. and our GENES do NOT say we're black. Lets recognise our self please and be proud of what we are instead of being proud of this so called black race that we're not even apart of because if we were part of this black "race" our genes would proof it but they proof otherwise.

And I do not believe Somalis with wide nose and very dark skin and afro hairs are pure Somalis, whether they like it or not their past generation mixed with bantus and those features got carried down to them.

I'm not making this argument to say Somalis are better than black people heck some somalis are ugly as fxxk and mixed race guys and some african americans are the shxt but the point I'm making here is that we are not from the same "race" as them, lets except it and move on.

[Bilis]

^Sure, there is diversity among Somalis. But on average, the physical, genetic, cultural and linguistic differences between Somalis/Ethiopians/Eritreans versus other Africans is much greater than that between Turks and any European group.

An example:

As our data show, the people of the Horn of Africa are craniofacially less distinct from a spectrum of samples marginally including South Asia and running all the way from the Middle East to northwest Europe than they are to any group in sub-Saharan Africa.

[hydrogen]

@Elf

Currently, I don't see you as anything more than the average African-American negro who has to resort to the opinion of his white master and listening to you babble right now makes me pity you. If I'm honest I regarded you as an intelligent and defiant member of this forum, alongside your counter-part AgentofChaos. However, under close inspection you're both suffering from many issues such as insecurities and depression.

[ElfRuler]

The concept of there being racial groups within the human race has been disproved, however the terminology is still in use to describe people from a particular region with certain phenotype.

Why is it difficult for Somalis to comprehend the simple fact that our skin is black. No one said anything about hair texture, the width of the nose, or any other physical features. The moment someone mentions black we see everything except our black skin, which in this case, is the reference being made.

How's it possible to look at the mirror and see one's complexion and say "I'm not Black". No one is begging, but there is nothing more embarrassing than seeing a jet-black Somali person saying "they are not black". A moment of dead silence usually ensues after such statements.

[hydrogen]

No one said anything about hair texture, the width of the nose, or any other physical features.

Hmm, are you sure?

You could be black and still be Somali, since blacks come in different shades,textures, and physical features.

The thing with people like you, is that you love to pick and mix, the truth simply doesn't satisfy you. One moment there is no such as race and we're all humans, then the next moment there is "diversity" between 'blacks'.

Believe me, it's easier to present facts than opnion. Black is a racial term. Just like how Syrians are called Arab and not WHITE regardless of their skin colour even though it's PALE WHITE.

[1nemansquad]

I'm Black when it benefits me, I'm not when it doesn't. What's with all this hair pulling people?

[ElfRuler]

@Elf

Currently, I don't see you as anything more than the average African-American negro who has to resort to the opinion of his white master and listening to you babble right now makes me pity you. If I'm honest I regarded you as an intelligent and defiant member of this forum, alongside your counter-part AgentofChaos. However, under close inspection you're both suffering from many issues such as insecurities and depression.

you hate being black and you hide the fact that you're a woman. At your rotten core is self-loath.

You're opinions have always been irrelevant, get a physical examination shemale.

[Bilis]

Actually, the average Somali complexion is brown. But we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. The real question is, are the genes which control that skin tone the same as those typically found amongst Sub-Saharan Africans? The answer here too is no.

This is part of the irony and why Euphoriia makes a good point.

[SiennaEarth]

I never denied our skin is black like I said a turkish person doesn't look in the miror and say "damn I'm white, I'm Euro". Nor does an Arab look in the mirror and say "damn I'm Pakistani" just because they share a damn skin colour. Just because we share colours with other people does not make us one of them.