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Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:28 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Chinaman wrote:Wtf? Who gave this government the authority to make us part of this so called "East African community" who by the way ultimately has a plan to integrate and eventually turn all the countries in this union into a single country? What a f-king joke.

Actually thinking about it, the whole "Somalia as country will in the future be divided between Kenya and Ethiopia" doesn't even seem that far fetched now. They'll probably give Somaliland and Puntland to Ethiopia and the proper south to Kenya. f-king Zoomalis, hadii aad tashan waydiid waa lagu talin.
Over my fcking dead body.

Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:13 pm
by Rabshoole
We should avoid EAC period, seems nothing good could come of it :down:
Arabman wrote:
Hodan94 wrote:isn't may may Swahili??
No. May May is different from both Swahili and Somali. It's a distinct language, though it has loan words from the Somali language.
You're wrong bud, Maay Maay speakers are the oldest inhabitants of the Horn of Africa, and has been spoken, long before Af Somali existed, according to number of sources.

Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:21 pm
by Bilis
Perfect_Order wrote: I believe that we should have high tarriffs, zero non-ethnic immigration, the most temporary work/student visas and very minimal contact with neighboring governments.
Armaan wrote: We should avoid EAC period, seems nothing good could come of it
Well said. :up: :som:

If this story turns out to be true, the move will Inshallah eventually be vetoed down by the parliament.

The application was made back in 2011 under Sheikh Sharif, pretty much around the same time he tried to quietly auction off part of Somalia's territorial waters to the Bantus in Kenya. Mogadishu's MPs showed some backbone then and skuttled that whole ridiculous idea.

Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:03 pm
by Bilis
LegendarySS4 wrote:We don't speak Swahilli like Burundi,Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya does...
True. And you know why that is? Because Bantus aren't originally from East Africa. West Africa is their actual ancestral land.

The Bantus first migrated to East Africa around the start of the Common Era; so that's not really that long ago. This population movement is known as the "Bantu Migration" or "Bantu Expansion". This is why Bantus look essentially identical to jareerta in West Africa i.e. they share the same ancestral origin. This is also why Bantus speak languages belonging to the same Niger-Congo family as the languages spoken by most West Africans instead of languages from the Afro-Asiatic family like Af-Soomaali and most other languages spoken by populations in the Horn region and North Africa.

This is one of the many ironies of this whole "East African Community" initiative. Most of the people involved in it aren't even originally from the area.
Hodan94 wrote:isn't may may Swahili??
Absolutely not. :(

Af-Maay-Maay is an Afro-Asiatic language like Somali, Amharic, Afar, Oromo, Tigrinya, Berber, Arabic, Hebrew, Ancient Egyptian, etc. In fact, Maay-Maay is so closely related to Af-Soomaali that it is often classified as a Somali dialect.

Swahili, on the other hand, belongs to the completely unrelated Niger-Congo family (specifically, to its Bantu branch). That's why it sounds similar to Kikuyu and other Bantu languages.

See below abaayo:

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Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:20 pm
by Jaidi
The heck is wrong with Somalis on this forum and their eugenics fascination? Same people who back the claim their clan ancestors are Arab are saying a migration that happened 1000s of years ago means you aren't indigenous to the region :mindblown:

I still don't understand how people who claim to be staunch Muslims push having more in common with people like the Ethiopian highlanders, while disparaging the coastal Muslims from TZ to Kenya who share even more.

Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:45 pm
by Bilis
^Actually, Somalis (and other Muslim Horn populations) share about as much in common with Muslim Zanzibaris/Tanzanians as they do with the odd Muslim Gabonese i.e. religion only:

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On the other hand, the Ethiopian highlanders are fellow Horn populations of the same ancestral ethnolinguistic background, regardless of what religion many adhere to today. This is only further supported by the fact that the same general pre-Islamic/pre-Christian religious structures that dot the Ethiopian, Eritrean and Djiboutian landscape are also found in Somalia.

Re: Will Somalia be joining the East African Community?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:51 pm
by InoCabdi
uff you want us to join the kenayans and itoobiyaan.
war hana habaarina