The Protesters Against The President Have A Point

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Re: The Protesters Against The President Have A Point

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LetsCookBreakfast wrote:
abdi.ismail wrote:A Solution would be for them to pack up and leave. The territory stays with SL. If they love xamar so much I'm sure their hutu compatriots will be more than welcome to host them in ugandhishu. They have been dealt with an attitude of patience and civility by the SL administration when they should have been wiped out long ago. Also I'm pretty sure the HAG have more pressing issues on their plate than pandering to qurbojoog nabadiids.


Just being real. :Shrug:
What a vile creature you are. Advocating the extermination of a people based on tribal animosity. Haven't you learned anything from '88? Somalilanders should steer clear of this mentality. We should be more compassionate to those dhulos who are happy to live under Somaliland instead of boasting about how they are our slaves like 99% of Isaaq snetters do. Those who are anti-SL should be left alone unless they provoke neighbouring clans. We shouldn't encroach on their ancestral homeland.
You obviously have reading comprehension problems. By the way, who's "we"?
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Twisted_Logic wrote:The Isaaq/Somaliland are too kind to these Kastuumo parasites. They should crush the rebellion party in Buhodle village & Taleex & send the diaspora taxi drivers packing. Else this conspiracy will drag on & cause more fragmentation among other non-Isaq clans in Somaliland.

But to think that Presideny Hassan Sheikh Mohamud should waste his time bringing to fruition a clan conspiracy hatched up in Western Shisha spots & propagated by failed politicians on life support is the height of lunacy. If we can't actively support Somaliland in putting down this Kastuumo conspiracy we should at least be cheerful spectators like Puntland. :idea:
U stupid bantus hartis r 30percent of somaliland thy luv hutus but abgals didn't give them da PM post instead langaab sade did jus watch soon sool n sanag will be inda hands of hartis da most landhere darod issaqs r stronger wen thy r united only
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Re: The Protesters Against The President Have A Point

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I think khatumo issue is bigger than qabiil problem, the president is not againist khatumo bc of qabiil

Its because khatumo is not recognized since the TFG and the road map(UN) due to the ex pm abdiwali considering it "contested region" and now the new deal doesn't recognize them

Besides being claimed by puntland its controlled by somaliland most of it

I think hassan sheekh has said to them "he feels their pain but cant do shyt about it and that if they believe in union then there is no problem with them!
the problem is with the people who don't believe in union and we have to talk to these"

When the turkish shipment was sent from mogadisho to reach their aid to some landlocked communities around there through bosaaso it made a big political fuss...

Its a political issue.
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Sahal actually when Puntland refused to accept the Turkish Aid from Mogadishu, the SFG contacted the SL govt and asked if the Aid can come to Berbera port the SL govt gave full permission and distributed the Aid to those regions, i dont see the problem why are they protesting.
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Khalid Ali wrote:Sahal actually when Puntland refused to accept the Turkish Aid from Mogadishu, the SFG contacted the SL govt and asked if the Aid can come to Berbera port the SL govt gave full permission and distributed the Aid to those regions, i dont see the problem why are they protesting.
Yeah I know. It was a humanitarian work and these places had a draught.
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Sahal,

Excellent point, and You're 100% right. Khatumo was actually really screwed and betrayed by Gaas/Faroole during the roadmap and the mp selection process. Dhulbhante wanted their mps to have 1 voice and that was a SSC/Khatumo voice. Instead Gaas/Faroole conspired and had about half their mps be Dhulbahante Puntland mps since Faroole is fiercely anti khatumo. This deprived the Dhulbhanate Khatumo/SSC group to have a strong representation and a unified voice in the Parliment. Khaatumo/SSC should really direct a lot of their anger at Gaas/Faroole more than Xassan Sh.
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Khalid Ali wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:The Isaaq/Somaliland are too kind to these Kastuumo parasites. They should crush the rebellion party in Buhodle village & Taleex & send the diaspora taxi drivers packing. Else this conspiracy will drag on & cause more fragmentation among other non-Isaq clans in Somaliland.

But to think that Presideny Hassan Sheikh Mohamud should waste his time bringing to fruition a clan conspiracy hatched up in Western Shisha spots & propagated by failed politicians on life support is the height of lunacy. If we can't actively support Somaliland in putting down this Kastuumo conspiracy we should at least be cheerful spectators like Puntland. :idea:



The legendary twisted spoke , hassan sheikh should just ignore these disgruntled highly emotional clowns kulaha hassan sheikh killed 400 innocent civilians , dadkan beentey kaga daran wax kasta. iska daa dhaxamaha boodhadh ha sitan eh.

By the way khatumo does not exist only in the diaspora, these people hold parties in international airports , ,maxaaad ka sugaysa

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Eydoors hold Las anod by force hence the lack of protests. Learn this remember this. However the spirit is high as shops are painted with the phrase SSC iyo Khaatumo everywhere.

Those people who haven't been to these places shouldn't discuss these places aka SSC.
Hutus : I was born in Xamar
Eydoors : My ancestral homeland is in the North not yours.

Eydoors what about buuhoodle, what about buuhoodle ? This 1 city speaks for the whole of SSC !

Twisted_Logic your a hutu why are you even speaking on these issues.
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Murax wrote:Sahal,

Excellent point, and You're 100% right. Khatumo was actually really screwed and betrayed by Gaas/Faroole during the roadmap and the mp selection process. Dhulbhante wanted their mps to have 1 voice and that was a SSC/Khatumo voice. Instead Gaas/Faroole conspired and had about half their mps be Dhulbahante Puntland mps since Faroole is fiercely anti khatumo. This deprived the Dhulbhanate Khatumo/SSC group to have a strong representation and a unified voice in the Parliment. Khaatumo/SSC should really direct a lot of their anger at Gaas/Faroole more than Xassan Sh.

Actually it wouldn't make a difference in reality they have 8 seats in the Parliament 3 of them were appointed by faroole and 5 by their own garaads.
Even if they had all of them in the Parliament chosen by them it wouldn't change a thing.Its a lost case for them Faroole told them either u join me all of you or you join Somaliland. But khatumo is not going to fly. They are between a rock and a hard place. They control one village in sool Taleeh and this is being undermined by Puntland as we speak Puntland vp is there right now. There are many who joined Somaliland like haglatoosiye and many khatumo faction members in fiqiifuliye last month. But they remain divided and to proud. And there is little Hassasn sheikh can do for them, even if he wanted, and the main stream Hawiye, and policy makers wish to be indifferent, on this.
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After lining the streets trying to disgrace the Somali government and calling the president a war criminal, I doubt anybody will give a crap about their grievances.

The SSC regions went from signing an agreement with Somaliland in 1991 to being Pro Puntland, then Pro Nobody, then Pro Khaatumo State, then Pro SFG and now Anti Everybody and Pro Nobody. Confusion right there.
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GeoSeven wrote:The SSC regions went from signing an agreement with Somaliland in 1991 to being Pro Puntland, then Pro Nobody, then Pro Khaatumo State, then Pro SFG and now Anti Everybody and Pro Nobody. Confusion right there.
Peace agreements only.
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Murax wrote:In the beginning I thought the protesters were Puntlanders or the Ahmed Madoobe supporters, but it turns out that the Protesters were from Sool/Sanaag/Cayn. To this point they have a legitmate gripe against this Government as they have been completely ignored, disregarded by the Government while Somaliland is being wooed. These are unionists who's concerns should be taken very seriously.
beenta jooji the protestors were dhuloz and mareexaan
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GeoSeven wrote:After lining the streets trying to disgrace the Somali government and calling the president a war criminal, I doubt anybody will give a crap about their grievances.

The SSC regions went from signing an agreement with Somaliland in 1991 to being Pro Puntland, then Pro Nobody, then Pro Khaatumo State, then Pro SFG and now Anti Everybody and Pro Nobody. Confusion right there.

Their problem was when hassan sheikh was elected, they believed he would listen to them and give them the benefit of the doubt. They thrown themselves in his arms , even they suggested they are against federalism to please the SFG. Than after Ankara conference in April between Somalia and Somaliland and a common understanding framework was established between SL govt and the Somali govt. They switched sides cali khalif galaydh started supporting Jubbaland and conspiring against the government along with Geedi and other failed politicians in Nairobi. And now this outburst against President hassan, hassan never did them harm he never mentioned them never talked ill about them. Now they call him a mass murderer a criminal a terrorist sympathizer. Khatumo has bad policy makers and awful strategists.
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FarhanYare wrote:
Murax wrote:In the beginning I thought the protesters were Puntlanders or the Ahmed Madoobe supporters, but it turns out that the Protesters were from Sool/Sanaag/Cayn. To this point they have a legitmate gripe against this Government as they have been completely ignored, disregarded by the Government while Somaliland is being wooed. These are unionists who's concerns should be taken very seriously.
beenta jooji the protestors were dhuloz and mareexaan


Even if Marehan were disgruntled with the Government they would not protest. Its not our dhaqan.
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metamorphosis wrote:
SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:How comes Puntland is not helping these Khastumo people.

Why does Khastumo problem become are problem, sense when did we become Harti?

At the end of the day Khastumo does not exist, its ruled jointly by Somaliland and Faroole.

Why don't Khastumo fight for their own rights and speak out?
This gives irony a whole new definition. Why, of all things you can use to mock khatumo, use inexistence as a state? Do you exist? After siilanyo took buses to the turkey meetings and he he was denied entry to the London meetings, you still don't give up? Eydors are the type of fools that don't know that they are fools. Can It get worse than that?
inleen somalidefencecouncil is qaldaan :?
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