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tmac wrote:Credit to you jalaaludin5 for being consistent in your opinions though Others like 1manesquad and TheMailMan are curiously missing in this Bantu bashing thread.

I try.

The only bantus I use to have isdue with were South Africans but am over that. Almost.

sophisticate wrote:I actually get where Estraix is coming from. He believes we should hold hands and sing kumbaya with everything black - including a coffee table. Because we share something in common. While Itrah takes from Margaret Sanger and thinks non-indigenous horners should pack their bags and leave or be sterilized. You are both wrong.

Are you so desperate to inject your opinion into everything as to fabricate a non-existent argument on Estarix' part?

I had to read his posts over just to see if I missed anything. Not once did he advocate for what you're claiming, all he did was debate a racist. sheeko

SaciidAyanleh wrote:

sophisticate wrote:I actually get where Estraix is coming from. He believes we should hold hands and sing kumbaya with everything black - including a coffee table. Because we share something in common. While Itrah takes from Margaret Sanger and thinks non-indigenous horners should pack their bags and leave or be sterilized. You are both wrong.

Are you so desperate to inject your opinion into everything as to fabricate a non-existent argument on Estarix' part?

I had to read his posts over just to see if I missed anything. Not once did he advocate for what you're claiming, all he did was debate a racist. sheeko

This discussion is a long-standing one, which you were not privy to. And I've seen this debate play out many time. Estraix is certainly more inclined to harmony and bridging gaps/ pointing out commonalities in his past replies on this subject matter. I suggest you look up the term "hyperbole." Also, assumptions get you nowhere son.

Salaam

sophisticate wrote: This discussion is a long-standing one, which you were not privy to. And I've seen this debate play out many time. Estraix is certainly more inclined to harmony and bridging gaps/ pointing out commonalities in his past replies on this subject matter. I suggest you look up the term "hyperbole." Also, assumptions get you nowhere son.

Salaam

Great job trivializing a legitimate response to a eugenic racist.

I seemed to have accidentally logged on to Stormfront.

As you were, ladies and gentlemen

SaciidAyanleh wrote:

sophisticate wrote: This discussion is a long-standing one, which you were not privy to. And I've seen this debate play out many time. Estraix is certainly more inclined to harmony and bridging gaps/ pointing out commonalities in his past replies on this subject matter. I suggest you look up the term "hyperbole." Also, assumptions get you nowhere son.

Salaam

Great job trivializing a legitimate response to a eugenic racist.

Thank you for being a good sport as well. Easy on the vitriol. A word of advice: don't assume you know other people or their intentions. *Hats off!*

Stop being stupid LiquidHydrogen. It takes an educated mind to entertain opposing opinions in your head. Actually listen to what I have to say.

Dont compare this to Stormfront, which is a racist SUPREMACIST site. I don't believe I'm superior to anyone. I only want to see the Somali culture and ethnic group preserved for the next several centuries. You will never see me advocate that Somalis start moving into Tanzania and Mozambique and start displacing the ethnic Bantus from their own homeland. I would stand against any Somali who does that. So why would I want them to do the same for Somalia?

Why would you want that LiquidHydrogen? I thought you were pro-Somali?

sophisticate wrote:

SaciidAyanleh wrote:

sophisticate wrote:I actually get where Estraix is coming from. He believes we should hold hands and sing kumbaya with everything black - including a coffee table. Because we share something in common. While Itrah takes from Margaret Sanger and thinks non-indigenous horners should pack their bags and leave or be sterilized. You are both wrong.

Are you so desperate to inject your opinion into everything as to fabricate a non-existent argument on Estarix' part?

I had to read his posts over just to see if I missed anything. Not once did he advocate for what you're claiming, all he did was debate a racist. sheeko

This discussion is a long-standing one, which you were not privy to. And I've seen this debate play out many time. Estraix is certainly more inclined to harmony and bridging gaps/ pointing out commonalities in his past replies on this subject matter. I suggest you look up the term "hyperbole." Also, assumptions get you nowhere son.

Salaam

so what do you, estrix and mailman suggest? creating a ban on bantus entering somalia? u know once it rises again they'll flood in like they do everywhere else. what do you propose then? apartheid? a ban on bantus so we look racist?

sophisticate wrote: Thank you for being a good sport as well. Easy on the vitriol. A word of advice: don't assume you know other people or their intentions. *Hats off!*

I wasn't trying to be a good sport. This thread (past debates aside) has a right and a wrong side. To equate the two was wrong. Now, it was wrong of me to assume, so please enlighten me as to your intention. Maybe to direct the thread in a direction you'd prefer?

TheMailMan wrote: Dont compare this to Stormfront, which is a racist SUPREMACIST site. I don't believe I'm superior to anyone. I only want to see the Somali culture and ethnic group preserved for the next several centuries.

No, modern White Supremacists would actually label themselves as White Nationalists, which is precisely what you advocate for Somalia. Stormfront was an apropos comparison.

PLATINUUM wrote: so what do you, estrix and mailman suggest? creating a ban on bantus entering somalia? u know once it rises again they'll flood in like they do everywhere else. what do you propose then? apartheid? a ban on bantus so we look racist?

The ideal situation would be citizenship based on passing a whole genome test. Only those who are over 99% Somali can get citizenship.

Those who fail the test can stay but will only be given a residency card. Long term residency holders won't be allowed to access government assistance and must pay extra income tax.

Eventually all of them will leave the country voluntarily.

Itrah wrote:

PLATINUUM wrote: so what do you, estrix and mailman suggest? creating a ban on bantus entering somalia? u know once it rises again they'll flood in like they do everywhere else. what do you propose then? apartheid? a ban on bantus so we look racist?

The ideal situation would be citizenship based on passing a whole genome test. Only those who are over 99% Somali can get citizenship.

Those who fail the test can stay but will only be given a residency card. Long term residency holders won't be allowed to access government assistance and must pay extra income tax.

Eventually all of them will leave the country voluntarily.

Throwback to White Australia Policy.

tmac wrote: Throwback to White Australia Policy.

White Australia Policy was based on race. This is based on ethnicity.

Oromos would fail such a test.

You can distinguish between Somalis and non-Somalis very easily using basic algorithms.

TheMailMan wrote:

tmac wrote:

sophisticate wrote:I actually get where Estraix is coming from. He believes we should hold hands and sing kumbaya with everything black - including a coffee table. Because we share something in common. While Itrah takes from Margaret Sanger and thinks non-indigenous horners should pack their bags and leave or be sterilized. You are both wrong.

Itrah is dead wrong. Bantus never had power in Somalia, always were a minority. To suggest that they are one of the root causes of why the South cannot succeed is laughable at best, and to add his pseudo-science into is comical.

Only very few countries in the world are fully homogeneous, ethnically and religiously.

The Bantus don't have any power in Somalia TODAY. In 2015. What makes you think they won't start to exercise their power once they increase in number? The Bantus are an existential threat to the Somali people, culture, and genome.

Just read up about what the Bantus have done to the Khoisan people of Southern Africa, and how their entire culture and way of life was utterly destroyed by the Bantus over a period of several centuries. What makes you think the same thing won't happen to us Cushites? You don't think the Bantus are a long-term threat? Are you f-king kidding me?

Your fearmongering doesn't work on me. What's your solution anyway? You wanna do genetic based citizenships? Deport the current Bantus to Tanzania and Mozambique?

Itrah wrote:

tmac wrote: Throwback to White Australia Policy.

White Australia Policy was based on race. This is based on ethnicity.

Oromos would fail such a test.

You can distinguish between Somalis and non-Somalis very easily using basic algorithms.

The concept is still based on the same idea. The world has moved on from such backward ideas. Most countries in the world are multi-ethnic, multi-racial or multi-religious. Your Cushtic Somalia is a mere pipedream.

Are you guys still at it. Agree to disagree and move on.