Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

Post by XimanJaale »

Rooble90 wrote:
Biggest In Daarood
1.Ogadeen
2.Majerteen
3.Marexaan
4.Dhulbahante
5.Warsangali
6.Leelkase
You got this wrong.

When it comes to Somalia, Mareexaan are the largest Daarood sub-clan followed by Majerteen. Mareexaan reside in denesly populated regions whereas MJ's reside in sparesly populated regions. Don't assume that have big towns means =large population. Yes MJ have bigger towns (luckily because the peace they had since 1998) but they don't have densely populated regions. Remember that in Somalia there is larger population in rural areas than urban areas. Mareexaans mainly have large rural population.

This is how it is:

Somalia:
1. Mareexaan
2. Majerteen
3. Dhulbahante
4. Ogaden
5. Warsangeli
6. Leelkase
7. Awrtable



Horn of Africa:
1. Ogaden
2. Mareexaan
3. Majerteen


or

1. Absame
2. Harti
3. Sade

In the Somali parliament, Mareexaan have the largest allocated MP's, followed by MJ then Absame.
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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XimanJaale wrote:
Rooble90 wrote:
Biggest In Daarood
1.Ogadeen
2.Majerteen
3.Marexaan
4.Dhulbahante
5.Warsangali
6.Leelkase
You got this wrong.

When it comes to Somalia, Mareexaan are the largest Daarood sub-clan followed by Majerteen. Mareexaan reside in denesly populated regions whereas MJ's reside in sparesly populated regions. Don't assume that have big towns means =large population. Yes MJ have bigger towns (luckily because the peace they had since 1998) but they don't have densely populated regions. Remember that in Somalia there is larger population in rural areas than urban areas. Mareexaans mainly have large rural population.

This is how it is:

Somalia:
1. Mareexaan
2. Majerteen
3. Dhulbahante
4. Ogaden
5. Warsangeli
6. Leelkase
7. Awrtable



Horn of Africa:
1. Ogaden
2. Mareexaan
3. Majerteen


or

1. Absame
2. Harti
3. Sade

In the Somali parliament, Mareexaan have the largest allocated MP's, followed by MJ then Absame.

Lol Abti I Meant Overall .. All the Areas Somalis Live in dee .. not just Somalia
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Rooble90 wrote:

Lol Abti I Meant Overall .. All the Areas Somalis Live in dee .. not just Somalia
If you mean overall Somali regions (Horn of Africa) then you are still wrong.

Overall regions:

1. Ogaden
2. Mareexaan
3. Majerteen


However if you want to coin all Harti sub-clans together then they do outnumber Mareexaan. So it will be:

1. Ogaden
2. Harti
3. Mareexaan
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Post by Advo »

There was once a HA group on facebook with like few thousand members. I think they are the largest based on that information.

I like HY though, dadka weey soo dhex galaan :up:

I haven't met alot of HJ's in real life though to make an assumption.
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

Post by Rambie »

There is nothing wrong knowing who's larger than the other.

I would say the Garxjiis are the largest followed by the Habar Awal.


Among the Somali clans :

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Among the Idoors:

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Thou most of these figures are not reliable any more. In the second picture The Gadabursi were less than half the population of the Hart in SL 50 years ago.

Today, they are larger then the Harti in SL. Borama is the third largest city in SL today. It's 3x larger than Laascanood and 25% larger then Bosasso!

As for the first, we also lost around 60,000 people in 88 and many before & after, so did the southern.
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Khalid Ali wrote:I think the Habarawal is slightly larger than the Garxajis but not by much and if Garxajis is larger its not by much really But either way it doesnt matter aslong as the Isaaq is large
This thread has just thrown in the open two things I have always known, firstly Reer Hargeisa are ignorant of the size and make up of Somaliland and secondly Isaaqs are worse than Dhollos when it comes to distorting history and even worse current realities.

To you my friend Somaliland and Isaaq is Hargeisa, unfortunately you are not alone and this is a problem that afflicts a lot of your kind. You don't really know Somaliland a care to get to know it, you confine yourself to Hargeisa and it's Western outskirts and throw around assumptions about the demographics of a country of which you know little.

80% of Somaliland is East of Hargeisa. Habar Jeclo are not known for Faan and Unlike you I won't make baseless hollow claims about the sizes if tribes or throw around clan demographics from 90 years ago to make my case. I want you to just consider two points firstly, the smallest of the big three Isaaq clans (according to you) owns just under 40% of Somaliland and has the largest coastline in Somaliland. Secondly, after Tuur's reign in Somaliland when it was about military strength and not faan and hoo haa this smallest of the three tribes was given more voting members (33) than HA and HY (32) combined.

HJ wasn't given all of this land just like they weren't given all of that voting power we took it! The question is was it because "the big Isaaq" kindly gave it to us or is it numbers and might?

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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Rooble90 wrote:Biggest In Isaaq
1.Habar Awal
2.Habar Yoonis
3.Habar Jeclo
4.Ciidagale
5.Arab
6.Cimraan

...... The rest


Biggest In Daarood
1.Ogadeen
2.Majerteen
3.Marexaan
4.Dhulbahante
5.Warsangali
6.Leelkase

........ The Rest


Biggest In Hawiye
1.Abgaal
2.Habar Gedir
3.Xawaadle
4.Degoodiye
5.Murusade
6.Gaaljecel

........ The Rest


Biggest In Dir
1.Ciise
2.Gadabursi
3.Surre
4.Gaadsan
5.Biyamaal
6.Guregure
What about digil iyo mirif
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Sahal walaal, Ciise Mudulood are not stand alone. Nimanka Hiraab oo dhan maxaay isku raaceen they are part of Hiraab. They are Ciise Mudulood Hiraab. And most Hiraab (at least the elders) don't claim Xawaadle, but as I'm sure you know by now, politicians tell lies even about the tribes (for their twisted political reasons), and what the politicians say isn't always the same as what the traditional elders (who are more concerned with the preservation of culture and lineage) say.

These estimated figures collected decades ago (about the numbers of each qabiil) are highly inaccurate, and an accurate census would put an end to much quarrel. Laakin how difficult would that be, and is it worth the cost given the money could go to more necessary projects such as water/infrastructure? Instead of focusing on what Isaaq clan is the biggest (not that there's anything wrong with this question), or what Somali clan is the most glorious: how about we (the Somali tribes) work for Somalia? How about we have a brotherly competition that lasts decades, where the end goal is to place Somalia on the World map and have it emerge as a regional and continental economic/military power?
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Post by HorseedS »

Rooble,
Don't listen to XimanXaare OG's and MJs are the largest Darood sub clans. Everybody knows this but ilkayar kids on snet. Just go outside and ask the next Darood person you see what their sub qabiil is it'll either be OG's or MJs. 8-)
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Lol clan ayaa idin hor cararay. Bal maxaad faa'ideen hadaba?
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We don't brag like a little school girl who has no confidence. We have been kicking ass and taking names for 150 years. As the late President Cigaal (AUN) said "there is no JSL without HJ."
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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Xiis yaad la hadlaysaa sxb? I see you replied laba jeer marna cidaad la hadlaysid maan garan
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

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If it wasn't for dhuloos and waroos liberation struggle against the British I thi dhuloos would be larger then Mareexan and mj . More then 1/3 of thier population had sacrificed thier life.
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^waa beenta caruurta reerkaa lagu sasabo. They were wierd ppl practicing stuff like rag on rag stuff. Read the story of what they used to do in garadag
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Re: Is habar yonis the largest sub clan?

Post by Khalid Ali »

caadani90 wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:I think the Habarawal is slightly larger than the Garxajis but not by much and if Garxajis is larger its not by much really But either way it doesnt matter aslong as the Isaaq is large
This thread has just thrown in the open two things I have always known, firstly Reer Hargeisa are ignorant of the size and make up of Somaliland and secondly Isaaqs are worse than Dhollos when it comes to distorting history and even worse current realities.

To you my friend Somaliland and Isaaq is Hargeisa, unfortunately you are not alone and this is a problem that afflicts a lot of your kind. You don't really know Somaliland a care to get to know it, you confine yourself to Hargeisa and it's Western outskirts and throw around assumptions about the demographics of a country of which you know little.

80% of Somaliland is East of Hargeisa. Habar Jeclo are not known for Faan and Unlike you I won't make baseless hollow claims about the sizes if tribes or throw around clan demographics from 90 years ago to make my case. I want you to just consider two points firstly, the smallest of the big three Isaaq clans (according to you) owns just under 40% of Somaliland and has the largest coastline in Somaliland. Secondly, after Tuur's reign in Somaliland when it was about military strength and not faan and hoo haa this smallest of the three tribes was given more voting members (33) than HA and HY (32) combined.

HJ wasn't given all of this land just like they weren't given all of that voting power we took it! The question is was it because "the big Isaaq" kindly gave it to us or is it numbers and might?

:sland:

Who told you that i have never visited outside Hargeysa i have visited Burco with the car and than later to all the togdheer tuulos from kiridh than later to Durukhsi and to be honest there are less people in togdheer Woqoyi galbeed or maroodijeex is the most populated area in Somaliland even saaxil is empty u will drive drive for hours and u will see only rocks and meelo cawlaan and maybe a few reer miye bari dhul ba xiga laakin dad inaga ma xiiga the same with sanaag only the ceerigaabo district is very populated Yufle waxan moodi jiray big town ileen wa afar qof. This is not faan but SL dadku wa galbeed dhulkuna wa bari.
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