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Warsheekh wrote:
Advo wrote:I love this political battle, Somalia will only send Issaq Unionists to troll Issaq separatist. :lol:

Sland is like nah son, we need proper walaweeyns and some cadaan people as third party

Somalia is like "nygga we dont need cadaan people, lets talk man to man"

Sland is like "fam, im dead serious about the cadaans"

Somalia "aight for the cadaan presence but still we sending the same people"

Somalia again trolls the conference by sending cadcads from marka as cadaan middle man.
:deadrose: :dead:
:whoo: :lol:

Advo keeps it plain and simple.
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Advo wrote:I love this political battle, Somalia will only send Issaq Unionists to troll Issaq separatist. :lol:

Sland is like nah son, we need proper walaweeyns and some cadaan people as third party

Somalia is like "nygga we dont need cadaan people, lets talk man to man"

Sland is like "fam, im dead serious about the cadaans"

Somalia "aight for the cadaan presence but still we sending the same people"

Somalia again trolls the conference by sending cadcads from marka as cadaan middle man.
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Minister of Interior"Somalia does not need external actors to get involved in our Domestic Negotiations With Somalil

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Khalid Ali wrote:
skywalker koonfur might have been crazy during the civil war but remember, somalia is the only that has good relations with their neighbours and the international community we are getting our mojo back
this real diplomacy, war and peace not provincial governance dude
Thats not true Somalia has no good relations with Ethiopia and Kenya , Ethiopia wishes to create more regional clan enclaves that work with them the central government tries to appease Ethiopia and doesnt flirt with the Arabs accept when its placing its begging Bowl. The Kenyans want to build a major wall in between Somalia and Kenya.. The kenyans see Somalia as a threat a major threat to their stability their economic industries. Diplomacy is more than just pictures with Foreign leaders , its the real work the real relations behind the curtains. Cabdilahi Yusuf used to meat them and so did Cabdiqasim salaad xassan. Somalia hasnt moved an inch closer to stabilization nor has it a functioning organic state that works on the ground and the diplomacy and the legitimacy has solely came from the Americans and the Europeans
khalid, by this you seem like saying ethiopia has good relations with SL and not SFG? Can you pls give me some figures and I will be thankful for your enlightment!

yes kenya but ethiopias agenda in somalia is the same for every region but in principal, it is more against SL than SFG bc its has a federal agenda for somalia

Ethiopia wanting to have an influence in the regions is a branch problem.

Kenya has interests in one region-JL- and its policies r influenced by certain somali group who work in the central govt as mps, ministers and generals

This can be fixed by reaching out to these people themselves and the current pm is closer to kenya than ethiopia and he's friend with the kenyan FM

If you believe the kenyan FM will ever recognize SL your will be so naïve, this woman has invited faroole, omar abdirashid, ahmed madobe and gandhi to the presidential place!

Maybe is looking for trade and some investment in SL

The other one is making some diplomatic works in the AU and IGAD themselves and I think that you know ethiopia having replaced her in the kismayo file and the uganda summit position

Here ethiopia sees to put this region under the SFG but at the same time being the biggest influential in it like any other somali region!

SFG has let ethiopia for this role generally speaking bc it has no troops in there but would like to have a local politicians that r aligned with the ruling group like in the elections etc...ethiopia wants to place more pro-ethiopian politicians in the govt itself for future cards!

At the end all somali regions/provinces will be dealt this way and this is why every province is organizing itself these days!

As for kay, then who has listened to his whining? That was my point!.
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Re: Minister of Interior"Somalia does not need external actors to get involved in our Domestic Negotiations With Somalil

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^^ well Ethiopia doesnt freely enter SL like its own territory, its in Somalia all the time, most of the times its troops wonder around not realising its in Somalia territory.
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Khalid is too diplomatic.
Somalis always need the cold hard truth jammed into their skulls.
If you let them be they will start living in fantasy land.

Its because of their humilitaing powerlessness that they project such strange fantasies like,
what sahal other believe about Ethiopia trying to control SL, access to ports.

The real situation is that Ethiopia has to share Somalia with the rest of the world, the international community,
when they had it all to themselves .
Till 2006 Somalia was exclusivly an Ethiopian protectorate, with Ethiopian troops moving at will, choosing so called members of parlaiment
and "cabinet members".
Ethiopia has to share Somalia with the UK, Turkey, and many more.

SL is not a province and never will be,
we consider you a foreign state.

I for one am relieved that finally all those useless talks have ended.
There will be no more talks, untill one of the states controlling Somalia arranged for 3 way talks with mediation.

You cannot destabalize Awdal because your fictional awdal rebellion is a few guys in jijiga and in Ottowa throwing parties.
No weapons and no serious destabalization can happen withtout 100% Ethiopian support and control.

Moqadishu can try to destablize the east through Puntland, but this will be counterpoructive for Puntland and will be excellent for SL.
A credible threat is what we need to rally the country, Khatumo has never been seen as a threat.
an attempt at destabalization also will create oppurtunities for SL to humiliate moqadishu and force the international community to pay attention.
It is not in your interest to shine a flash light on the SL-Somalia situation, you need to keep it in the dark.

but all this is hypothetical because puntland has shown that they take self preservation very seriously.
They will not be a sacrificial victim for the policy of Moqadishu because most of the damage and deaths will be theirs.

So sahal and others i ask you what can you do? not what you hope your masters will do for you.
stop bitching and man up.
fantasy will not change your situation, only you can.
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Re: Minister of Interior"Somalia does not need external actors to get involved in our Domestic Negotiations With Somalil

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gurey25 wrote:Khalid is too diplomatic.
Somalis always need the cold hard truth jammed into their skulls.
If you let them be they will start living in fantasy land.

Its because of their humilitaing powerlessness that they project such strange fantasies like,
what sahal other believe about Ethiopia trying to control SL, access to ports.

The real situation is that Ethiopia has to share Somalia with the rest of the world, the international community,
when they had it all to themselves .
Till 2006 Somalia was exclusivly an Ethiopian protectorate, with Ethiopian troops moving at will, choosing so called members of parlaiment
and "cabinet members".
Ethiopia has to share Somalia with the UK, Turkey, and many more.

SL is not a province and never will be,
we consider you a foreign state.

I for one am relieved that finally all those useless talks have ended.
There will be no more talks, untill one of the states controlling Somalia arranged for 3 way talks with mediation.

You cannot destabalize Awdal because your fictional awdal rebellion is a few guys in jijiga and in Ottowa throwing parties.
No weapons and no serious destabalization can happen withtout 100% Ethiopian support and control.

Moqadishu can try to destablize the east through Puntland, but this will be counterpoructive for Puntland and will be excellent for SL.
A credible threat is what we need to rally the country, Khatumo has never been seen as a threat.
an attempt at destabalization also will create oppurtunities for SL to humiliate moqadishu and force the international community to pay attention.
It is not in your interest to shine a flash light on the SL-Somalia situation, you need to keep it in the dark.

but all this is hypothetical because puntland has shown that they take self preservation very seriously.
They will not be a sacrificial victim for the policy of Moqadishu because most of the damage and deaths will be theirs.

So sahal and others i ask you what can you do? not what you hope your masters will do for you.
stop bitching and man up.
fantasy will not change your situation, only you can.
Excellent analysis
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Somalia is all talk but no action.
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SL is all bark and no bite. You write a lot articles but the reality is there for everyone to see.
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TheblueNwhite wrote:SL is all bark and no bite. You write a lot articles but the reality is there for everyone to see.

What reality, can you enlighten us sxb?
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