Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:34 am
33% darod 33% hawiy 33% d&m/dir/etc
in total 99 seats
in total 99 seats
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Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:36 am
Unless Reer Cheese are satisfied, than Jubbaland is not going to progress. Sad but it's the truth. An Entire region almost exclusive to them and having a Presence in the most important city gives them an edge LOL
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:50 am
Yes, and that's how I know how much Bartire like, Ogadeen.MarsinQorahay wrote:When was there any rivalry between the absame Brothers? and as intense as the one between mj's and mr's? nigga you must be joking me !The`Republic wrote:Even though I consider this null and void to be honest, Kuumade is a misleading title.
The rivalry between Bartire and Ogaadeen is as intense as the one between Majerten and Marehan.
How much did Ogadeen get and how much the Bartire of Buaale?
have you ever met an bartire person first of all?
In any case, this is all irrelevant. Madoobe already had his climax. Sooner or late, the shimbirayahow heesa on borrowed KDF balls will end.
Continue the charades until then.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:27 pm
JB's security and future solely depends on OG/MX et al cooperation. Security not seats is the future. Diplomacy 
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:51 pm
Marehans need to be civil. They have to find a way to be the ones spearheading the project. There is no need for threats and wars. I think that region has had enough and if history tell us anything is that that region cannot be ruled by a single clan. While you folks dispute over who gets what share alshabab is on the outskirts waiting for an opportunity. Those who are praying for KDF's departure should know that there is the alshabab threat still.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:44 am
Voltage, atleast we won't run away like marehaans did when ahmed madoobe arrived in Kismayo back in 2008.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:07 pm
gegiroor wrote:It is clear in this map the original inhabitants of Jubaland: Marehan. Aulyahan (Ogaden), Bartire (Absame), Mohamed Subeir (Ogaden), Biyamal,, Harti, and Goha people.thegoodshepherd wrote:zumaale wrote:
He who has Fufu firepower rules the day but for how long can this charade be kept up? We both know Absame do not have the same numbers as Jareer or Digil in 'Jubaland' yet they end up with the lion share.
Clans like Gaaljecel, Cawramaleh, Giirgiir etc. were part of Harti. It's not the Harti you think of. In Af May, Harti means man/men as in men of similar origin or profession and when the MJ's arrived in the Jubbas they allied themselves to the already existing Harti because of the similarity of the names. Even clans like Marexaan was once part of this Harti alliance.
That's why Harti is not divided into sub sections because in the Jubbas, Harti is not a clan but an alliance.
Lol @ massive resettlement campaing, waxaasa berri ku odhanaya ''Somali unity'' iyo ''Somalinimo''. Munaafaq.. sunta Somali ku jirta waa Darood.
I hope the locals see this for what it is and they already do since 75% is under AS.
One thing is for sure though, Darood won't squat in Jamaame district and southern parts of Jilib district that belong to Biyamaal and Surre.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:43 pm
Axmed Madhoobe the illiterate has indeed shitted in the JL land project.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:04 pm
Harti is one of the indigenous communities in Jubbaland, you dumb f(u)ck. You act like you know how tribes settled in Jubbaland, when all you're relaying here is cuqdad. There are historic documents to support it. You're now spinning and saying Hartis in historic Jubbaland was not a clan but an alliance. Dummy, Harti was always a clan in this territory, but under the British rule, all of the clans must have a guarantor when issues happen. Harti in Jubbaland was the representative of every Daarood except Mohamed Zubeir and Awlyahan. There were also other clans that settled in the area, such as Sheekhaal and Cawramaleh, that came under dominion of Harti.Xildiiid wrote:gegiroor wrote:It is clear in this map the original inhabitants of Jubaland: Marehan. Aulyahan (Ogaden), Bartire (Absame), Mohamed Subeir (Ogaden), Biyamal,, Harti, and Goha people.thegoodshepherd wrote:
Clans like Gaaljecel, Cawramaleh, Giirgiir etc. were part of Harti. It's not the Harti you think of. In Af May, Harti means man/men as in men of similar origin or profession and when the MJ's arrived in the Jubbas they allied themselves to the already existing Harti because of the similarity of the names. Even clans like Marexaan was once part of this Harti alliance.
That's why Harti is not divided into sub sections because in the Jubbas, Harti is not a clan but an alliance.
Lol @ massive resettlement campaing, waxaasa berri ku odhanaya ''Somali unity'' iyo ''Somalinimo''. Munaafaq.. sunta Somali ku jirta waa Darood.
I hope the locals see this for what it is and they already do since 75% is under AS.
One thing is for sure though, Darood won't squat in Jamaame district and southern parts of Jilib district that belong to Biyamaal and Surre.
Fyi, massive Harti resettlement means the indigenous Hartis coming back to their settlements. Fyi, Cawrmale migration started roughly 250 - 300 years ago from Sanaag. They were historically Warsangeli, but after they settled in Lower Jubba, other clans joined the Cawramale confederation.
Who is claiming Jamaame and Jiib district? You dumb fu(c)k don't know the largest clan in that area is Jareerweyne (Wagosha people).
Anyhow keep crying here every thing about Daarood. Bottom line, despite the rocky start, Jubbaland is forming and getting its feet wet despite the misgivings from some clans - mainly Sade - and hopefully, it will be solved.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:18 pm
One of the original founders of the Azania project that preceded ''Jubbaland'' mr, Gaandi himself stated that Harti was a loose alliance not based on kinship but on common interests and few numbers, hence why rivalling Marexaan and Majerteen once were under the same label (together with clans such as Gaaljecel, Cawramaleh, Giirgiir etc.)
Cawromaleh is a Samaale clan that trace its roots to Gardheere Samaale just like the Garre who also live in S/Hoose, the Jubba valley mainly in Gedo but also along the coast. Cawromaleh has never lived in Sanaag. That's a myth created by the Warsangeli who claim them to legitimize future claims in the Jubbas.
Resettlement as in stealing land from indigenous people.. Stop being a munaafaq and state what you really meant.
The Wagosha/Mushungli are one of the largest clans in that district, no doubt, but the 200 towns in that district come under Biyamaal. That doesn't mean Biyamaal has more right than the Wagosha or Mushungli or Sheikhal or Abgaal that also live in Jamaame. As long as the Darood venom is kept away from these peaceful communities, they have nothing to worry about.
Cawromaleh is a Samaale clan that trace its roots to Gardheere Samaale just like the Garre who also live in S/Hoose, the Jubba valley mainly in Gedo but also along the coast. Cawromaleh has never lived in Sanaag. That's a myth created by the Warsangeli who claim them to legitimize future claims in the Jubbas.
Resettlement as in stealing land from indigenous people.. Stop being a munaafaq and state what you really meant.
The Wagosha/Mushungli are one of the largest clans in that district, no doubt, but the 200 towns in that district come under Biyamaal. That doesn't mean Biyamaal has more right than the Wagosha or Mushungli or Sheikhal or Abgaal that also live in Jamaame. As long as the Darood venom is kept away from these peaceful communities, they have nothing to worry about.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:29 pm
Xildiiid wrote:Clans like Gaaljecel, Cawramaleh, Giirgiir etc. were part of Harti. It's not the Harti you think of. In Af May, Harti means man/men as in men of similar origin or profession and when [b wrote:the MJ's arrived in the Jubbas they allied themselves to the already existing Harti because of the similarity of the names. [/b]Even clans like Marexaan was once part of this Harti alliance.
Yeah, when Osman Mohamud the Kings of Darood, arrived in Kismayo after sailing 1000 miles; they decided to become sheegatos of Cowrmale iyo Gaaljecel
war idoorka ya naga qabta!! Nin Farjano ku dhashey ayu waamo kala doodaya.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:35 pm
^
Tell that to Gaandi, he revealed that information.
Tell that to Gaandi, he revealed that information.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:42 pm
thegoodshepherd wrote:Xildiiid wrote:Clans like Gaaljecel, Cawramaleh, Giirgiir etc. were part of Harti. It's not the Harti you think of. In Af May, Harti means man/men as in men of similar origin or profession and when [b wrote:the MJ's arrived in the Jubbas they allied themselves to the already existing Harti because of the similarity of the names. [/b]Even clans like Marexaan was once part of this Harti alliance.
Yeah, when Osman Mohamud the Kings of Darood, arrived in Kismayo after sailing 1000 miles; they decided to become sheegatos of Cowrmale iyo Gaaljecel
war idoorka ya naga qabta!! Nin Farjano ku dhashey ayu waamo kala doodaya.
He isn't lying Harti went beyond the qabil, it was an umbrella many clans went under.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:42 am
You should read what he wrote carefully. He said that Marehan used to be sheegato of Harti in Waamosadeboi wrote: He isn't lying Harti went beyond the qabil, it was an umbrella many clans went under.
sheeko walanHarti are to Kismayo what Reer Xamar are to Mogadishu and what Barawanis are to Barawe. Before Harti Kismayo was a bajuni well.
Re: Distribution of Jubaland's parliament seats
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:52 am
According to proffessor Ghandi, Marexaan in the early 20th century were part of Harti in Kismaayo.thegoodshepherd wrote:You should read what he wrote carefully. He said that Marehan used to be sheegato of Harti in Waamosadeboi wrote: He isn't lying Harti went beyond the qabil, it was an umbrella many clans went under.
Harti are to Kismayo what Reer Xamar are to Mogadishu and what Barawanis are to Barawe. Before Harti Kismayo was a bajuni well.