Somalis dont appreciate our people!
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
There is no beef bro! I only said the biggest jareer booty clappers were somali females from North America and the uk!
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm an afrocentric because I live in America and am surrounded by white, mexican, and asian racists. if they treat me like a black person, look at me like a black person, why would I not view my interests as the same as other black people?Kaafiye wrote:I know of thousands of Somalis who say the exact same thing.MaliPrince wrote:why not say this on twitter rather than hiding behind the anonymity of a forum?SiennaEarth wrote:I don't know why stupid xalimos on twitter claim to be black. I ain't no Bantu just because we share skin colour doesn't mean we belong to the same race. Smh
I can't stand these Afrocentrists who try to make up their own history and create some fictional narrative that Africa was some big, happy, united continent where everyone held hands and sang "kumbaya" until the White man came in with his weapons and "divided us" into separate classifications.
It's bullshit. I'm a Somali and I have nothing in common with some guy from Burkina Faso or Gabon. We were never united.
maybe in Burkina Faso and Gabon, the social dynamics of race are different. but here in America, I'm an afrocentric.
Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
your thread had been high jacked long before i camechelseaforever wrote:
Yo two, stop hijacking my thread take your stupid beef some where els

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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
chelseaforever wrote: This! i agree with you man, i lived with afar and they are just like us, as for other africans, like you said we are just from the same continent, call me arab booty-clapper but i think we are close to arabs then jareers, at least we share same deen with them, but we arnt arabs nor jareers.

there are 242 million muslims in sub-saharan africa. compared to 321 million muslims in the middle east (this is including Sudan and the north african countries which are largely berber and not carab). http://www.pewforum.org/interactives/mu ... n-graphic/
why would the carab muslims be closer to you than the jareer muslims? according to the numbers, there are nearly as many muslims in "black africa" as there are in the middle east if you take out Sudan.
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
So then you should specify that you're an American and that your opinions only apply in America and nowhere else.MaliPrince wrote:the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm an afrocentric because I live in America and am surrounded by white, mexican, and asian racists. if they treat me like a black person, look at me like a black person, why would I not view my interests as the same as other black people?Kaafiye wrote:I know of thousands of Somalis who say the exact same thing.MaliPrince wrote:
why not say this on twitter rather than hiding behind the anonymity of a forum?
I can't stand these Afrocentrists who try to make up their own history and create some fictional narrative that Africa was some big, happy, united continent where everyone held hands and sang "kumbaya" until the White man came in with his weapons and "divided us" into separate classifications.
It's bullshit. I'm a Somali and I have nothing in common with some guy from Burkina Faso or Gabon. We were never united.
maybe in Burkina Faso and Gabon, the social dynamics of race are different. but here in America, I'm an afrocentric.
The vast majority of Somalis DO NOT live in America and thus your "Afrocentric" bullshit will never be taken seriously by Somalis.
I don't identify myself according to what some White man thinks. I'm not a docile, identity-less, self-hating troll
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
true. but 50% of the global somali population is estimated to be living in the diaspora outside of somalia. most in western countries or arab countries. locations where we face the same type of anti-black discrimination. so i think the afrocentric mindset is palpable there as well.Kaafiye wrote: So then you should specify that you're an American and that your opinions only apply in America and nowhere else.
The vast majority of Somalis DO NOT live in America and thus your "Afrocentric" bullshit will never be taken seriously by Somalis.
I don't identify myself according to what some White man thinks. I'm not a docile, identity-less, self-hating troll
africa is a different situation. tribalism/ethnocentrism is the problems there.
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You're moving the goalposts buddy. It is a known FACT that the vast majority of Jareers ARE NOT MUSLIM. Visit countries like Congo, Zambia, South Africa and Angola. The muslims are a minority. Even amongst Afro-Americans, a tiny minority of them are Muslims, and in fact many of them hold extreme anti-Muslim sentiments.MaliPrince wrote:chelseaforever wrote: This! i agree with you man, i lived with afar and they are just like us, as for other africans, like you said we are just from the same continent, call me arab booty-clapper but i think we are close to arabs then jareers, at least we share same deen with them, but we arnt arabs nor jareers.this is how i know you carab bootyclappers don't care one shit about religion. you just like distancing yourself away from blackness as much as possible.
there are 242 million muslims in sub-saharan africa. compared to 321 million muslims in the middle east (this is including Sudan). http://www.pewforum.org/interactives/mu ... n-graphic/
why would the carab muslims be closer to you than the jareer muslims? according to the numbers, there are just as many muslims in "black africa" as there are in the middle east if you take out Sudan.
Stop with your misrepresentations.
Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
Another lie. Because this diaspora includes the millions of Somalis living in the Ogaden region of Ethiopia, as well as the NFD region of Kenya. This land has been and will always be Somali territory, and the millions of Somalis living there aren't part of the diaspora at all. They're at home.MaliPrince wrote:true. but 50% of the global somali population is estimated to be living in the diaspora outside of somalia. most in western countries or arab countries. locations where we face the same type of anti-black discrimination. so i think the afrocentric mindset is palpable there as well.Kaafiye wrote: So then you should specify that you're an American and that your opinions only apply in America and nowhere else.
The vast majority of Somalis DO NOT live in America and thus your "Afrocentric" bullshit will never be taken seriously by Somalis.
I don't identify myself according to what some White man thinks. I'm not a docile, identity-less, self-hating troll
africa is a different situation. tribalism/ethnocentrism is the problems there.
And there aren't many Somalis living in the US. There are probably more Somalis living in Yemen alone than Canada/USA combined. There are more Somalis living in countries like India or Malaysia than there are in many European countries.
Afrocentrism is and will always be bullshit. If I'm going to unite with anyone, I will do so on the basis of Islam. At least that's more rational than uniting with someone based on some f-king skin color.
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
kaafiye, said what i was going to say, i will add there are many arabi words in our language but you wont find kukuye words and our prophet csw was arab, my abtirsin goes all the to bin hashimKaafiye wrote:You're moving the goalposts buddy. It is a known FACT that the vast majority of Jareers ARE NOT MUSLIM. Visit countries like Congo, Zambia, South Africa and Angola. The muslims are a minority. Even amongst Afro-Americans, a tiny minority of them are Muslims, and in fact many of them hold extreme anti-Muslim sentiments.MaliPrince wrote:chelseaforever wrote: This! i agree with you man, i lived with afar and they are just like us, as for other africans, like you said we are just from the same continent, call me arab booty-clapper but i think we are close to arabs then jareers, at least we share same deen with them, but we arnt arabs nor jareers.this is how i know you carab bootyclappers don't care one shit about religion. you just like distancing yourself away from blackness as much as possible.
there are 242 million muslims in sub-saharan africa. compared to 321 million muslims in the middle east (this is including Sudan). http://www.pewforum.org/interactives/mu ... n-graphic/
why would the carab muslims be closer to you than the jareer muslims? according to the numbers, there are just as many muslims in "black africa" as there are in the middle east if you take out Sudan.
Stop with your misrepresentations.

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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
I can't wait either. But I bet even then some people would be confused and call themselves Black or Arab. We are our own race and people. The Somali race. May allah protect us.samaalenoble wrote:I for one am looking forward to the Somali plate splitting away.
Ameen Ya Rabbal'alameen

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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
242 million is not a small number. even if the majority of the jareer are non-muslim, what about those 242 million? why would you feel a closer kinship to the ~300 million in non-black countries?Kaafiye wrote:You're moving the goalposts buddy. It is a known FACT that the vast majority of Jareers ARE NOT MUSLIM. Visit countries like Congo, Zambia, South Africa and Angola. The muslims are a minority. Even amongst Afro-Americans, a tiny minority of them are Muslims, and in fact many of them hold extreme anti-Muslim sentiments.MaliPrince wrote:chelseaforever wrote: This! i agree with you man, i lived with afar and they are just like us, as for other africans, like you said we are just from the same continent, call me arab booty-clapper but i think we are close to arabs then jareers, at least we share same deen with them, but we arnt arabs nor jareers.this is how i know you carab bootyclappers don't care one shit about religion. you just like distancing yourself away from blackness as much as possible.
there are 242 million muslims in sub-saharan africa. compared to 321 million muslims in the middle east (this is including Sudan). http://www.pewforum.org/interactives/mu ... n-graphic/
why would the carab muslims be closer to you than the jareer muslims? according to the numbers, there are just as many muslims in "black africa" as there are in the middle east if you take out Sudan.
Stop with your misrepresentations.
like I said earlier. anyone who tries to use islam as a reason for validating a closer kinship to the carabs over their african neighbors is just a self-hating coon tryin to booty-clap for the carabs. either be an ignorant ethnocentric fool to EVERYONE or accept the jareer WHO HAPPEN TO BE MUSLIM as being as much your brother as the carab muslims.
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
and there we have it. you shoulda just come out with this rather than creating the false narrative about islam. like I said earlier, all yall are just carab bootyclappers.chelseaforever wrote:kaafiye, said what i was going to say, i will add there are many arabi words in our language but you wont find kukuye words and our prophet csw was arab, my abtirsin goes all the to bin hashimi repeat arabs are closer to me than sangadhuudhs PERIOD
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Authibilah. You just don't get it do you?MaliPrince wrote:242 million is not a small number. even if the majority of the jareer are non-muslim, what about those 242 million? why would you feel a closer kinship to the ~300 million in non-black countries?Kaafiye wrote:
You're moving the goalposts buddy. It is a known FACT that the vast majority of Jareers ARE NOT MUSLIM. Visit countries like Congo, Zambia, South Africa and Angola. The muslims are a minority. Even amongst Afro-Americans, a tiny minority of them are Muslims, and in fact many of them hold extreme anti-Muslim sentiments.
Stop with your misrepresentations.
like I said earlier. anyone who tries to use islam as a reason for validating a closer kinship to the carabs over their african neighbors is just a self-hating coon tryin to booty-clap for the carabs. either be an ignorant ethnocentric fool to EVERYONE or accept the jareer WHO HAPPEN TO BE MUSLIM as being as much your brother as the carab muslims.
The majority of Muslims in sub-saharan Africa live in either Nigeria, or the Horn of Africa. That's where they're concentrated. Yes there are exceptions and there are large Muslim communities in Senegal and Zanzibar, and it's true that the vast majority of Jareers in Africa are either Christian or Pagan. They're not Muslim.
That's all I was saying. And yes I do feel a closer kinship to those 242 million Muslims, I really do. But I have no friendship at all to some Christian from Angola or South Africa. They're not my people and we have nothing in common.
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Re: Somalis dont appreciate our people!
Chelsea is forever confused.
Am I the only one not holding hands with with every Jane and Joe. I am Somali point blank. This whole identity crisis nonsense of confused diaspora kids is getting annoying. You are not a victim. You don't have the same plight as them, in some ways you have it worse, in other ways better. You have not been psychologically nuked by slavery, and you haven't been made to be docile and second-class citizens in your own land because of colonialism. All these violations against Somalis are a new phenomenon and is a consequence of being stateless and not having a solid, functional and competent government that cares for your welfare and is willing to step in. So why just join hands with anyone. You barely get along with your selves - Somalis.
Try focusing on the heart of the issue instead of at the periphery with people you share very little with.
And can you blame the Afro-Americans, they call themselves India and China, whilst claiming them too. I suppose that's no different than these confused kids in Europe and the N. America saying their Arab, or this Pan African idle talk via twitter. Gosh, trying to undo the damage these diaspora Somalis do is a cumbersome task.
Am I the only one not holding hands with with every Jane and Joe. I am Somali point blank. This whole identity crisis nonsense of confused diaspora kids is getting annoying. You are not a victim. You don't have the same plight as them, in some ways you have it worse, in other ways better. You have not been psychologically nuked by slavery, and you haven't been made to be docile and second-class citizens in your own land because of colonialism. All these violations against Somalis are a new phenomenon and is a consequence of being stateless and not having a solid, functional and competent government that cares for your welfare and is willing to step in. So why just join hands with anyone. You barely get along with your selves - Somalis.

And can you blame the Afro-Americans, they call themselves India and China, whilst claiming them too. I suppose that's no different than these confused kids in Europe and the N. America saying their Arab, or this Pan African idle talk via twitter. Gosh, trying to undo the damage these diaspora Somalis do is a cumbersome task.
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This is what happens as a result of the civil war and the resulting social confusion in the Somali communitySophisticate wrote:Chelsea is forever confused.
Am I the only one not holding hands with with every Jane and Joe. I am Somali point blank. This whole identity crisis nonsense of confused diaspora kids is getting annoying. You are not a victim. You don't have the same plight as them, in some ways you have it worse, in other ways better. You have not been psychologically nuked by slavery, and you haven't been made to be docile and second-class citizens in your own land because of colonialism. All these violations against Somalis are a new phenomenon and is a consequence of being stateless and not having a solid functional and competent government that cares for your welfare and is willing to step in. So why just join hands with anyone. You barely get along with your selves - Somalis.Try focusing on the heart of the issue instead of at the periphery with people you share very little with.
And can you blame the Afro-Americans, they call themselves India and China, whilst claiming them too. I suppose that's no different than these confused kids in Europe and the N. America saying their Arab, or this Pan African idle talk via twitter. Gosh, trying to undo the damage these diaspora Somalis do is a cumbersome task.

On 1 hand you have Somalis claiming to be Arab and trying to live in an Arab country. On the other hand, you have Somalis who have this "pan-African" mindset that is naive and ultimately destructive. Afrocentrism and Arabism is destroying our people, and we need to do away with both concepts. We are Somalis, we are Muslims. That's it.
But that idea is a little too much for MaliPrince and others to comprehend.
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