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Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:15 am
by InaSamaale
FarhanYare wrote:She can do both study and enjoy motherhood if allah allows and the support system is there I.e. Husband helping out
Fixed.

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:17 am
by gegiroor
grandpakhalif wrote:They should be emulated and not the disbelievers of the West, whose new lifestyles - mostly out of concern for enjoying this life or obtaining as many worldly goods as possible - discourage women from having more children.
Islam has forbidden celibacy (state of not being married), monasticism (life of monks & nuns) and castration (removal of the male glands) for such purposes. The prophet (saw) made this clear when he told those companions who were considering acetic forms of life: "I pray and I sleep; I fast and I break my fast; and I marry women. Whoever turns away from my way of life is not from me."
The prophet (saw) not only encouraged marriage but he encouraged marrying those women who are child-bearing. He stated: "marry the loving, child-bearing women for I shall have the largest numbers among the prophets on the day of Resurrection."(Recorded by Ahmad and ibn Hibban.)
From the Islamic perspective, children are a gift and a blessing from Allah. Allah mentions some of the bounties that He has bestowed upon mankind in the following verse: "And Allah has made for you spouses of your own kind and has made for you, from your wives, sons and grandsons, and has bestowed upon you good provisions." (al-Nahl 72)
Allah also said: "Wealth and children are the adornment of the life of this world." (al-Kahf 46)
The only true provider for all mankind is Allah. If Muslims follow what Allah has prescribed for them, Allah will provide for them. Allah has warned about killing one's children out of fear of poverty for either parents or the child. Allah says: "Kill not your children because of poverty - We provide sustenance for you and for them" (al-Anaam 151)

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:37 am
by Inaayah
grandpakhalif wrote:They should be emulated and not the disbelievers of the West, whose new lifestyles - mostly out of concern for enjoying this life or obtaining as many worldly goods as possible - discourage women from having more children.
Islam has forbidden celibacy (state of not being married), monasticism (life of monks & nuns) and castration (removal of the male glands) for such purposes. The prophet (saw) made this clear when he told those companions who were considering acetic forms of life: "I pray and I sleep; I fast and I break my fast; and I marry women. Whoever turns away from my way of life is not from me."
The prophet (saw) not only encouraged marriage but he encouraged marrying those women who are child-bearing. He stated: "marry the loving, child-bearing women for I shall have the largest numbers among the prophets on the day of Resurrection."(Recorded by Ahmad and ibn Hibban.)
From the Islamic perspective, children are a gift and a blessing from Allah. Allah mentions some of the bounties that He has bestowed upon mankind in the following verse: "And Allah has made for you spouses of your own kind and has made for you, from your wives, sons and grandsons, and has bestowed upon you good provisions." (al-Nahl 72)
Allah also said: "Wealth and children are the adornment of the life of this world." (al-Kahf 46)
The only true provider for all mankind is Allah. If Muslims follow what Allah has prescribed for them, Allah will provide for them. Allah has warned about killing one's children out of fear of poverty for either parents or the child. Allah says: "Kill not your children because of poverty - We provide sustenance for you and for them" (al-Anaam 151)

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:18 am
by MissFiora
Islam also teaches us to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave...it encourages us to tie our camels. I have a "Salafi" cousin who dropped out of uni because mixing with men is haram ...she doesn't work her husband is a reformed Roadman who is now 'upon the haq' (not uni educated) ..when they can't make ends guess who gets a call? ME!
Getting married is a noble endeavour ..lakin sheekada iska guurso ma'ahan that's why we have broken families and high divorce rates. #waxwalbokaafiirso #teamanshouldn'tbeyourfinancialplan #teamtieyourcamelfirst
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:44 am
by TheLoFather
MissFiora wrote:Islam also teaches us to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave...it encourages us to tie our camels. I have a "Salafi" cousin who dropped out of uni because mixing with men is haram ...she doesn't work her husband is a reformed Roadman who is now 'upon the haq' (not uni educated) ..when they can't make ends guess who gets a call? ME!
Getting married is a noble endeavour ..lakin sheekada iska guurso ma'ahan that's why we have broken families and high divorce rates. #waxwalbokaafiirso #teamanshouldn'tbeyourfinancialplan #teamtieyourcamelfirst
So having gone to university decreases the divorce rate?!! Now my worrying is halved

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:43 pm
by MissFiora
LoDoon wrote:MissFiora wrote:Islam also teaches us to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave...it encourages us to tie our camels. I have a "Salafi" cousin who dropped out of uni because mixing with men is haram ...she doesn't work her husband is a reformed Roadman who is now 'upon the haq' (not uni educated) ..when they can't make ends guess who gets a call? ME!
Getting married is a noble endeavour ..lakin sheekada iska guurso ma'ahan that's why we have broken families and high divorce rates. #waxwalbokaafiirso #teamanshouldn'tbeyourfinancialplan #teamtieyourcamelfirst
So having gone to university decreases the divorce rate?!! Now my worrying is halved

My point seems to have escaped u..let me reiterate. Marriage isn't something you just do..but it's something you think through and give serious consideration... Nowadays people just jump into ...sayin things like 'I'm doing it for Allah's sake... And Allah will provide' they abuse the concept of Tawakul.. And when they see the reality they abandon ship...leading to divorce.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:04 pm
by gegiroor
MissFiora wrote:LoDoon wrote:MissFiora wrote:Islam also teaches us to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave...it encourages us to tie our camels. I have a "Salafi" cousin who dropped out of uni because mixing with men is haram ...she doesn't work her husband is a reformed Roadman who is now 'upon the haq' (not uni educated) ..when they can't make ends guess who gets a call? ME!
Getting married is a noble endeavour ..lakin sheekada iska guurso ma'ahan that's why we have broken families and high divorce rates. #waxwalbokaafiirso #teamanshouldn'tbeyourfinancialplan #teamtieyourcamelfirst
So having gone to university decreases the divorce rate?!! Now my worrying is halved

My point seems to have escaped u..let me reiterate. Marriage isn't something you just do..but it's something you think through and give serious consideration... Nowadays people just jump into ...sayin things like 'I'm doing it for Allah's sake... And Allah will provide' they abuse the concept of Tawakul.. And when they see the reality they abandon ship...leading to divorce.
The number of divorce cases is much higher in those who went thru the Western education than those God-fearing families who didn't travel that route.
Money is nothing. You can be rich today but be broke tomorrow. It is believe in Allah (iimaan) and a good character that is critical to the success of marriage.
If a relative calls you when they can't get the ends meet and you help it, that is good; it is the Islamic way. However, you can't predict the future, and it is possible that the husband of your cousin may get richer tomorrow that you may need his help.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:45 pm
by TheLoFather
^
I was going to say something exactly

like that but this I give

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:29 pm
by Hyperactive
MissFiora wrote:LoDoon wrote:MissFiora wrote:Islam also teaches us to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave...it encourages us to tie our camels. I have a "Salafi" cousin who dropped out of uni because mixing with men is haram ...she doesn't work her husband is a reformed Roadman who is now 'upon the haq' (not uni educated) ..when they can't make ends guess who gets a call? ME!
Getting married is a noble endeavour ..lakin sheekada iska guurso ma'ahan that's why we have broken families and high divorce rates. #waxwalbokaafiirso #teamanshouldn'tbeyourfinancialplan #teamtieyourcamelfirst
So having gone to university decreases the divorce rate?!! Now my worrying is halved

My point seems to have escaped u..let me reiterate. Marriage isn't something you just do..but it's something you think through and give serious consideration... Nowadays people just jump into ...sayin things like 'I'm doing it for Allah's sake... And Allah will provide' they abuse the concept of Tawakul.. And when they see the reality they abandon ship...leading to divorce.
i agree 100% with my cousin and i understood your point. marriage is a lot harder than any thing you do in life. it's not something ....ohh i need to marry.. it's life changing decision. very few who get married were ready for it.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:19 pm
by jamal859
These salafis will basically use Islam to oppose everything, never take them seriously. They basically killed reasoning in the Muslim world and that's why we're in the shit we are in
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:23 pm
by Itrah
A lot of Western Somali girls are studying bullshit degrees these days... (social work and other bullshit subjects).
It's extremely rare to see a Somali girl who actually studies a hard science.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:25 pm
by Inaayah
Itrah wrote:A lot of Western Somali girls are studying bullshit degrees these days... (social work and other bullshit subjects).
It's extremely rare to see a Somali girl who actually studies something hard.
You're so rude.

Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:27 pm
by Hyperactive
Itrah wrote:A lot of Western Somali girls are studying bullshit degrees these days... (social work and other bullshit subjects).
It's extremely rare to see a Somali girl who actually studies a hard science.
the one i know do science only. though science degree with no gradschool is useless. that what i am telling my sister who applied life science! if you do not go for medical school or phd is useless.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:31 pm
by Itrah
Hyperactive wrote:the one i know do science only. though science degree with no gradschool is useless. that what i am telling my sister who applied life science! if you do not go for medical school or phd is useless.
Maybe in the Arab world they take education more seriously.
But most of the Somali girls I know around here study mostly useless things (social subjects) because it is tuition free. The only common useful field some of them get into is nursing.
Re: Yasmin Ahmed: Marriage could wait, my education comes first.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:33 pm
by VeiledGarbasar
Mar mar waan yaab...
Waxaan haysana niman ka soo baxiin iskuul of xashiish cab iyo gabadho who are Nurses, Midwives, Radiologist, Heart Surgeon, Dentist, Doctor, Teacher, Biomedical Scientist....and I know of at least 1 Somali girl who has a degree in that.
-sighs-