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Inaayah wrote:You think your scales on the day of judgment will weigh a lot more less with regards to your sins because you were a man? Lol I chuckle in pity.

but...but... they're aren't the ones being "objectified" - apparently it's fine. You know "boys will be boys"

i cannot believe the male egos here!! you would allow your sister/sister/wife bla bla. you cannot allow to not allow any one but ourselves. one has control, fully control of themselves and no one else's. fair God and respect others' and pray God will protect your loved ones.

this is the reason, we have hypocrite, double lives in our society!! no one do or dont cause of fear. just remember next time to say or do something not your right to other girl/woman, she is some one else's sister, daughter, loved one.

hadad rabto ino 3arthigaga ko nabad galo, tan dadka ha o 7ad godbin.

Some of you are saying "just cuz their hijabi's doesnt mean their Angels, they can make mistakes." But clearly bending over and gyrating and shaking ur ass on a mans di** in front of people and a camera isn't an "oops, i made a mistake" type of error. Sins are not all of the same magnitude. Her actions mean she has no modesty whatsoever, and since hijab is a symbol of modesty she has no right to wear it. It's akin to a prostitute wearing a hijab. Wallahi some prostitutes have more shame than this girl in the video since they go to extreme lengths to hide their shameful occupation and never act promiscuous in public.

Also some of yall said her taking off the hijab would just be an additional sin on top of her other sins, so she should keep it. That doesnt make sense either. It's like a man who steals from people during the day in ramadan while he's fasting. Is there honestly any point in such a man fasting? IT defeats the entire point of it. In fact it's better for him to stop stealing and stop fasting than it is to steal while fasting. Likewise it's better for this girl to stop wearing hijab and assume modest behaviour than it is to act like a slut with a hijab on. If the man cant stop stealing then no point in fasting, and if she cant stop throwing that ass on mens gu.s in public then no point in wearing hijab.

Also, the whole double standard thing. Men do the effing, we don't get effed.There's a reason men feel like they've gone hunting and conquered their prey after sex while women feel dirty and used when he doesn't call her the day after, that should tell u something. Also men prize chastity in women because virginity is the closest proxy we have to determining paternity and preventing cuckoldry. Virgins r more loyal, thus less risk of cheating. Studies have proven this. Also no real man want's to pay for something (ie marriage) that's been had for free by other men. Any woman can have sex on demand, so it's no great feat and it only devalues her. But only a stud and real man among men can have sex easily, so it increases his value. I'm talking socially, not islamically. Of course the sin is the same for both genders. But this double standard bullshit is just feminist hogwash and a license for women to have sex freely without social consequences just like men.

loool@men's values increace with zina!! Allah kareem. there you pointed out the problem. that needs to fix it.

Hyperactive wrote:loool@men's values increace with zina!! Allah kareem. there you pointed out the problem. that needs to fix it.

Hyper, it's just the way it is. Women are attracted to the men other women are also attracted to. So the more woman a man is involved with the more his value goes up in women's eyes. It's how their programmed. Great men throughout history have had harems, and woman basically worshiped them. And even now men who have looks, money, and status or a combination of the three have women who are willing to be with them even though they know he sees other women. Even practicing Muslim women do this by attempting to become second or third wives for certain guys, so this just isn't a gaalo or non-practising Muslim phenomenon. It's a phenomenon rooted in the nature of female sexual strategy. Compare this with how men view women who have had past partners? It's night and day sxb.

If marriage and monogamy is replaced with complete female sexual liberation (as is currently taking place in the west) the top 20% of men would impregnate 80% of the women, and the vast vast majority of men would be involuntarily celibate.

i dont think good women attracted to zani. it's messed up world after all but Alhamdullilah good values still there and will be there forever even majority seems lost it.

i always will say; kul fitna are men. our women are reflection of our action. when men allowed themselves to be taking care financially by their sisters or wivies and neclate their duties when everything went wrong.

feminist are least our worries. the problems are dead beat men who neglet their values and duties.

Since women are much more influenced by their social circles, it's true that they may not want to become committed to a man that has a bad reputation as a cad (zani) if the society is a conservative one. That's because women care a lot about what their friends and family think of them. But here's the difference, if she meets a guy she's attracted to and he's had partners before her but he's been smart and lucky enough not to gain a reputation as a cad, trust me she won't mind at all and will secretly think more highly of him because it proves other women find him desirable. So it's not his past sexual escapades she has a problem with, it's only the bad reputation a cad can gain in a conservative society which she doesn't want to be associated with (because with women social status is everything). Compare that to a man, he'll have a problem with his women's past partners regardless of whether others found out and she developed a bad rep or not. See the difference?

Another way of saying the above is, in a liberal society like the west women love cads cuz cad-like behaviour isn't looked down upon. But men still don't like slutty behaviour even when living in a liberal society. U feel me?

Jugjugwacwac wrote:Also, the whole double standard thing. Men do the effing, we don't get effed.There's a reason men feel like they've gone hunting and conquered their prey after sex while women feel dirty and used when he doesn't call her the day after, that should tell u something. Also men prize chastity in women because virginity is the closest proxy we have to determining paternity and preventing cuckoldry. Virgins r more loyal, thus less risk of cheating. Studies have proven this. Also no real man want's to pay for something (ie marriage) that's been had for free by other men. Any woman can have sex on demand, so it's no great feat and it only devalues her. But only a stud and real man among men can have sex easily, so it increases his value. I'm talking socially, not islamically. Of course the sin is the same for both genders. But this double standard bullshit is just feminist hogwash and a license for women to have sex freely without social consequences just like men.

I would love to see you use that to justify to Allah.


Lool@man whores being studs.A whore is a whore regardless of gender.

no i dont see what you see. maybe i was rised differently regardless of society i was born and rised. i was held accountable regardless what society wrongly set as unwritten rules. never accepted anything not islamic and not fair.

i let sisters answer. what you just said is offensive to women, honestly.

Tuushi wrote:

Jugjugwacwac wrote:Also, the whole double standard thing. Men do the effing, we don't get effed.There's a reason men feel like they've gone hunting and conquered their prey after sex while women feel dirty and used when he doesn't call her the day after, that should tell u something. Also men prize chastity in women because virginity is the closest proxy we have to determining paternity and preventing cuckoldry. Virgins r more loyal, thus less risk of cheating. Studies have proven this. Also no real man want's to pay for something (ie marriage) that's been had for free by other men. Any woman can have sex on demand, so it's no great feat and it only devalues her. But only a stud and real man among men can have sex easily, so it increases his value. I'm talking socially, not islamically. Of course the sin is the same for both genders. But this double standard bullshit is just feminist hogwash and a license for women to have sex freely without social consequences just like men.

I would love to see you use that to justify to Allah.


Lool@man whores being studs.A whore is a whore regardless of gender.

I don't need to justify anything to Allah when i'm just describing how he created us. Im talking about the nuts and bolts of the sexual mating strategies of men and women, not making a religious argument. Im talking about how things r not how they should be. Descriptive and not prescriptive. I already said zina is equally haram for both men and women. But the social consequences are very different. Ignore them at your own peril.

Hyperactive wrote:no i dont see what you see. maybe i was rised differently regardless of society i was born and rised. i was held accountable regardless what society wrongly set as unwritten rules. never accepted anything not islamic and not fair.

i let sisters answer. what you just said is offensive to women, honestly.

But I didn't tell u to accept these rules as your rules. There aren't even the rules I live by either. I'm just describing how reality works in the sexual/marriage market place. Reality will stay as it is whether we open our eyes to it or not. Don't confuse 'is' with 'ought'.

But that is all that matters.

There is only Allah`s rule.No one else`s norm is going to fly.

PureQ wrote:Watch from 1:40 to 2:28 and 3:15 to 3:50 of xalimos in hijab doing doggystyle grindings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... OvTcLm4OLI

Tuushi wrote:But that is all that matters.

There is only Allah`s rule.No one else`s norm is going to fly.

So are u saying we should throw away all studies of society and how it functions because societal norms aren't Islamic? So bye bye sociology, anthropology, cultural studies, economics, evolutionary psychology etc?