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gegiroor wrote:

Waryaa Ramzy,, ninyahow you're too emotional for this place. I ain't denying anyone's history, man. I mean who am I to deny a written history?

But brother you guys are really pushing it too hard for this Habar Magaadle claim. Seriously, Rooble Waliid's research is much closer to the one documented in those archives than your claim. That is my view.

On my end, I am going to study the clans in that area and found out if there's any clans called Habr Maqdi. As you can see Gerri Koombe were clearly shown. So if 'g' of Gerri was mentioned, I can't understand why Habar Magaadle wasn't mentioned?

Coming back to Harti and Marrexaan, we were clearly mentioned. Even today, the descendents of those mujahidiin are still in Baabuli and other places where the Jihad was taking place. Even Jiiraan Koombe and Baalcad Absame were also mentioned. Many other Somalis.and other Muslims had huge part in it.

Ok to put it long story short: We were all part of it. How about that?

ramzy2277 wrote:

gegiroor wrote:Habr Maqdi/Habr Makdi and Habar magaadle are two different things. Give it up people. If Gerri name was fully recorded with the letter 'G', Habar Magaadle would've been recorded as well, but it isn't, Therefore, the arguments that you're putting here have no basis.

Besides, by reviewing the list of clans that contributed to the Jihaad, Habr Magaadle was not included. Harti, Mareexaan, Gerri Koombe, Absame, Gadabuursi, Yibir, and Karanle Hawiye + other Arab, Turks, and Persian Muslims were all recorded; but hell no way that Habr Magaale was mentioned.

Nevertheless, this was a Jihad, so it was an event that every Muslim should be associated with as well. But at least give it a rest, no Habr Magaadle was recorded of being part of it.

Do you read Arabic? if yes, then start reading from the red underlined sentence , it clearly says Ahmed gurey bin husain al somali from هبر مقدى was the first tribe to join the imam ahmad in his call for jihad....r u blindly going to deny this as usual..!!



but,if u don't read arabic then thats ur own problem and dont make stupid judgement based on ur ignorance.

Harti..!!....looool.....u denying to involve habar magdi/maqdi/magad which war clearly mentioned several times and blatantly inject harti in the jihad...




the only name that resembles harti in the book is xarti حرتى ...again the same dilema faces by rooble faces u, how the name is written in arabic and ur somali name are different....harti starts with '' H'' corresponding in arabic '' haa' ها like in Huda as an example...but in the arabic text it uses the letter ''X' in somali or ''ح '' like in Ximaar , the name mentioned in the book is حرتي not هرتي ........not to forget the last letter in Harti is '' i '' and thats another story with the ى is meant by 'Ii'' or '' AA'' as the yaa in arabic denoted with 2 dots below the lette like حرتي , which is not the case here in حرتى .




as for the marexan...yes they are mentioned, I wont deny that but are the the same marexan of the darood u mean or different tribe with the same name, because marexan darood claim to be from hashimi and somali fathers but this marexan leader xirabu bin guita bin tederos have a pure non somali abtiris with no arabic name except Adem ..!!

anyhow also can deny that they only done so after the imam put a man hunt warrant after their leader Xirabu bin Guita bin tederos bin Adem...حرابوا بن جيوتا بن تيدوروس بن ادم .( WHAT KIND OF A SOMALI NAME IS THIS..!! TRY TO TYPE TEDEROS IN GOOGLE AND ALL U GONA FIND IS XABASHI SONGS AND LINKS.. )...this xirabo guy put up some weak excuse for not joining the jihad and the imam told him'' no good is expected out of you''.







why do you hate isxaaq that much, i never understand ur ppl, this is an islamic history,no doubt but u and ur likes always try to remove isxaaq from any good somali history,and u always fail to distort history as usual too..... somehow i can understand ur out cry in the darweesh terrorist movement as ur dholos ppl were involved same thing it can be said in the faqash days where ur ppl were the D in the faqash M.O.D regime, but seriously u trying now to distort history and inject ur harti into this and augment the isxaaq out it.....what kind of cuqdad is driving ur logic ,if u ever have one, I wonder.

samaalenoble wrote:
1. I told you ق and ک/ك are more likely to be interchangeable than a term missing a ل, you sidestep it, and clung to me telling you to do research.

Re-read it carefully this time.


2. Pankhurst chose Habr Makadur, take it up with him.


3. Rooble has archaeology - physical evidence (heavy), locality claims (heavy) and specifically modern lineage claims.


Rooble 4 : 0

Soo Maal



ROFL

RoobleAlWaliid wrote:

samaalenoble wrote:
1. I told you ق and ک/ك are more likely to be interchangeable than a term missing a ل, you sidestep it, and clung to me telling you to do research.

Re-read it carefully this time.


2. Pankhurst chose Habr Makadur, take it up with him.


3. Rooble has archaeology - physical evidence (heavy), locality claims (heavy) and specifically modern lineage claims.


Rooble 4 : 0

Soo Maal



ROFL

Probably got their hopes up when they saw a wrong translation on the Habr Maqdi/ Habr Maqdr/Makdr. Luckily the real Habr(Makdr) has been added as a annotation to the book. The wrong translations probably had no clue about a Habr Makadur.

Indeed as you stated I have everything backing me.

A Gadabursi child grows up with stories of Ahmed Guray and him being from his clan a Habar Magaadle doesn't, neither do their elders have any account of the wars or are they closely related to the Geri Koombe who were part of the wars.

Neither is the Habr Maqdi mentioned in the book from their areas, but from the Harar Valley.

GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:Ok give a rest we all know habar magaale or magaado never heard of this makidor but pretty sure there numbers were insufficient to join a battle of that magnitude or scale so your theory is based on misinterpreted alphabet letter thats supposely in a translated text that is not going fly try harder next time.

Makidor funny name.

GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:

ramzy2277 wrote:

gegiroor wrote:Habr Maqdi/Habr Makdi and Habar magaadle are two different things. Give it up people. If Gerri name was fully recorded with the letter 'G', Habar Magaadle would've been recorded as well, but it isn't, Therefore, the arguments that you're putting here have no basis.

Besides, by reviewing the list of clans that contributed to the Jihaad, Habr Magaadle was not included. Harti, Mareexaan, Gerri Koombe, Absame, Gadabuursi, Yibir, and Karanle Hawiye + other Arab, Turks, and Persian Muslims were all recorded; but hell no way that Habr Magaale was mentioned.

Nevertheless, this was a Jihad, so it was an event that every Muslim should be associated with as well. But at least give it a rest, no Habr Magaadle was recorded of being part of it.

Do you read Arabic? if yes, then start reading from the red underlined sentence , it clearly says Ahmed gurey bin husain al somali from هبر مقدى was the first tribe to join the imam ahmad in his call for jihad....r u blindly going to deny this as usual..!!



but,if u don't read arabic then thats ur own problem and dont make stupid judgement based on ur ignorance.

Harti..!!....looool.....u denying to involve habar magdi/maqdi/magad which war clearly mentioned several times and blatantly inject harti in the jihad...




the only name that resembles harti in the book is xarti حرتى ...again the same dilema faces by rooble faces u, how the name is written in arabic and ur somali name are different....harti starts with '' H'' corresponding in arabic '' haa' ها like in Huda as an example...but in the arabic text it uses the letter ''X' in somali or ''ح '' like in Ximaar , the name mentioned in the book is حرتي not هرتي ........not to forget the last letter in Harti is '' i '' and thats another story with the ى is meant by 'Ii'' or '' AA'' as the yaa in arabic denoted with 2 dots below the lette like حرتي , which is not the case here in حرتى .




as for the marexan...yes they are mentioned, I wont deny that but are the the same marexan of the darood u mean or different tribe with the same name, because marexan darood claim to be from hashimi and somali fathers but this marexan leader xirabu bin guita bin tederos have a pure non somali abtiris with no arabic name except Adem ..!!

anyhow also can deny that they only done so after the imam put a man hunt warrant after their leader Xirabu bin Guita bin tederos bin Adem...حرابوا بن جيوتا بن تيدوروس بن ادم .( WHAT KIND OF A SOMALI NAME IS THIS..!! TRY TO TYPE TEDEROS IN GOOGLE AND ALL U GONA FIND IS XABASHI SONGS AND LINKS.. )...this xirabo guy put up some weak excuse for not joining the jihad and the imam told him'' no good is expected out of you''.







why do you hate isxaaq that much, i never understand ur ppl, this is an islamic history,no doubt but u and ur likes always try to remove isxaaq from any good somali history,and u always fail to distort history as usual too..... somehow i can understand ur out cry in the darweesh terrorist movement as ur dholos ppl were involved same thing it can be said in the faqash days where ur ppl were the D in the faqash M.O.D regime, but seriously u trying now to distort history and inject ur harti into this and augment the isxaaq out it.....what kind of cuqdad is driving ur logic ,if u ever have one, I wonder.

gegiroor this faqash slob is playing dumb xplaya annihilated him darawiish and kacan thread he just having fun here because of rooble weak mispelling theory is exciting his pea brain mind.

ramzy2277 wrote:
the only name that resembles harti in the book is xarti حرتى ...again the same dilema faces by rooble faces u, how the name is written in arabic and ur somali name are different....harti starts with '' H'' corresponding in arabic '' haa' ها like in Huda as an example...but in the arabic text it uses the letter ''X' in somali or ''ح '' like in Ximaar , the name mentioned in the book is حرتي not هرتي ........not to forget the last letter in Harti is '' i '' and thats another story with the ى is meant by 'Ii'' or '' AA'' as the yaa in arabic denoted with 2 dots below the lette like حرتي , which is not the case here in حرتى .

gegiroor wrote:

Waryaa Ramzy,, ninyahow you're too emotional for this place. I ain't denying anyone's history, man. I mean who am I to deny a written history?

But brother you guys are really pushing it too hard for this Habar Magaadle claim. Seriously, Rooble Waliid's research is much closer to the one documented in those archives than your claim. That is my view.

On my end, I am going to study the clans in that area and found out if there's any clans called Habr Maqdi. As you can see Gerri Koombe were clearly shown. So if 'g' of Gerri was mentioned, I can't understand why Habar Magaadle wasn't mentioned?

Coming back to Harti and Marrexaan, we were clearly mentioned. Even today, the descendents of those mujahidiin are still in Baabuli and other places where the Jihad was taking place. Even Jiiraan Koombe and Baalcad Absame were also mentioned. Many other Somalis.and other Muslims had huge part in it.

Ok to put it long story short: We were all part of it. How about that?

GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:And I'm asking you stop repeating same nonsense we get it you want to be included in millennium old jihad that's fine but you won't be able change every interpretation to do that it's not possible.