The Isaaq failure to articulate and distinguish civil war from their statehood case

[SahanGalbeed]

Logic-ga ayaa ka khaldan ninkan weyn e sida ciyaalka u hadlaya .
Wuxu yidhi , statehood -ka ay koonfur ka rabto ha iska dhaafto dawladda Somaliland oo nacayb ku kooban daaroodka ha ku dhisato mustaqbalkeeda . Hawiyihu waxba inagu may samayn .
So if you pursue this erronous argument to its conclusion , which is based on a tribal rapprochement with a certain tribe the hawiye and a punishement inflicted on another as vengeance the daarood , the logical consequence can only be an anti somaliland one .
Why? The daarood live in Somaliland and partcipate in all aspects of the dailylife as anybody else and recognise themselves as Northeners
The Hawiye are opposed to any tribal secession by any somali tribe on what is internationally recognised Somalia .
So how does it add up ?
It doesn't
An absolute retard this habar yoonis is.Waxan kale ugu nacamleeya meeshan na tolnimo ayay ka tahay , ina Lilah wa ina Ileehi Raajicuun

[Geeljire252]

Logic-ga ayaa ka khaldan ninkan weyn e sida ciyaalka u hadlaya .
Wuxu yidhi , statehood -ka ay koonfur ka rabto ha iska dhaafto dawladda Somaliland oo nacayb ku kooban daaroodka ha ku dhisato mustaqbalkeeda . Hawiyihu waxba inagu may samayn .
So if you pursue this erronous argument to its conclusion , which is based on a tribal rapprochement with a certain tribe the hawiye and a punishement inflicted on another as vengeance the daarood , the logical consequence can only be an anti somaliland one .
Why? The daarood live in Somaliland and partcipate in all aspects of the dailylife as anybody else and recognise themselves as Northeners
The Hawiye are opposed to any tribal secession by any somali tribe on what is internationally recognised Somalia .
So how does it add up ?
It doesn't
An absolute retard this habar yoonis is.Waxan kale ugu nacamleeya meeshan na tolnimo ayay ka tahay , ina Lilah wa ina Ileehi Raajicuun

Firstly qabiil qaran ma noqodo, you must include everyone to form a state.
And if you want to "play hard ball" and "seek revenge" (quoted from your fellow "lander" Xildiid) against the rest of Somalis. Why would we give you independence?
For a repeat of what happened before ??

[Xildiiid]

Somaliland existed as a sovereign state when your country was still a UN trust territory.

So this 'qabiil qaran ma noqdo' argument is retarded and secondly you can't grant anyone independence.

[Geeljire252]

Somaliland existed as a sovereign state when your country was still a UN trust territory.

So this 'qabiil qaran ma noqdo' argument is retarded and secondly you can't grant anyone independence.

Lol we arranged our independence 10 years earlier. We called to have a Somali government under a trusteeship lead by Cabdullahi Ciise (AUN) instead of being militarily occupied like you. You were just brought along. We even secured your independence after Halyeey Cabdullahi Ciise went to many international conferences and called for unity between both Italian Somaliland and British Somaliland.
Also if you were already a "nation" why did you use our flag for the 3 days you were independent?

If you had any say in the military occupation, you would have allowed your rulers to hand over the hawd to Ethiopia.


What I mean "qabiil Qaran ma noqodo" is right because how can one clan rule the rest without giving them a say?

[Xildiiid]

You didn't arrange anything, the UN created mandatory conditions for Italy so that it could regain the control of it's former colony. Italy had to build schools, roads, hospitals and create a political system with the time frame of 10 years so that Somalia Italiana could become independent. That's why Cabdullahi Ciise had Italian advisor.

You didn't secure our independence. Matter of fact, no Somali secured anything. It was all arranged by Europeans.

The flag was supposed to be a Pan Somali flag representing the 5 Somali territories and that's why it was hoisted in Hargeisa.

The British ceded Hawd in 1954 to halt Ethiopia's orientation towards the US because of disagreements with the British. Oil was discovered in the area and for the US it was all about preventing Ethiopia from turning communist while the British were appeasing the Ethiopians because of the oil.

[Geeljire252]

You didn't arrange anything, the UN created mandatory conditions for Italy so that it could regain the control of it's former colony. Italy had to build schools, roads, hospitals and create a political system with the time frame of 10 years so that Somalia Italiana could become independent. That's why Cabdullahi Ciise had Italian advisor.

You didn't secure our independence. Matter of fact, no Somali secured anything. It was all arranged by Europeans.

The flag was supposed to be a Pan Somali flag representing the 5 Somali territories and that's why it was hoisted in Hargeisa.

The British ceded Hawd in 1954 to halt Ethiopia's orientation towards the US because of disagreements with the British. Oil was discovered in the area and for the US it was all about preventing Ethiopia from turning communist while the British were appeasing the Ethiopians because of the oil.

^ how can you openly deny history?

Did Cabdullahi Ciise(AUN) not go to talks in Paris, New York, London and Potsdam to secure our Somali independence (Both British and Italian somaliland)?

Did Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) not propose both Italian and British Somaliland to be given independence and joined to the world power at these conferences?

Was Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) not the one who brought UN Resolution No 289 which freed Somalia from the military occupation following the world war and turned it into a trusteeship lead by Somalis overseen by Italy and the UN?

Was Cabdullahi Cisse (AUN) not the man who got the world powers to end the trusteeship and give Somalis in the horn independence within 10 years?


Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) waa ninka keenay Xornimada iyo calanka maanta Soomaalidu harsanayso.

The world powers even tried to poison him to stop his mission to secure independence for Somalis.

[cyanide]

Somaliland existed as a sovereign state when your country was still a UN trust territory.

So this 'qabiil qaran ma noqdo' argument is retarded and secondly you can't grant anyone independence.

Somaliland was made independent to join Somalia Italiana under the UN trusteeship
Then all tribes were against the colonials now the Isaak tribe just wants seccesion

[Xildiiid]

You didn't arrange anything, the UN created mandatory conditions for Italy so that it could regain the control of it's former colony. Italy had to build schools, roads, hospitals and create a political system with the time frame of 10 years so that Somalia Italiana could become independent. That's why Cabdullahi Ciise had Italian advisor.

You didn't secure our independence. Matter of fact, no Somali secured anything. It was all arranged by Europeans.

The flag was supposed to be a Pan Somali flag representing the 5 Somali territories and that's why it was hoisted in Hargeisa.

The British ceded Hawd in 1954 to halt Ethiopia's orientation towards the US because of disagreements with the British. Oil was discovered in the area and for the US it was all about preventing Ethiopia from turning communist while the British were appeasing the Ethiopians because of the oil.

^ how can you openly deny history?

Did Cabdullahi Ciise(AUN) not go to talks in Paris, New York, London and Potsdam to secure our Somali independence (Both British and Italian somaliland)?

Did Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) not propose both Italian and British Somaliland to be given independence and joined to the world power at these conferences?

Was Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) not the one who brought UN Resolution No 289 which freed Somalia from the military occupation following the world war and turned it into a trusteeship lead by Somalis overseen by Italy and the UN?

Was Cabdullahi Cisse (AUN) not the man who got the world powers to end the trusteeship and give Somalis in the horn independence within 10 years?


Cabdullahi cisse (AUN) waa ninka keenay Xornimada iyo calanka maanta Soomaalidu harsanayso.

The world powers even tried to poison him to stop his mission to secure independence for Somalis.

He attended meeting arranged by the Europeans. He had no power to arrange anything and Somalia Italianas independence was secured by the UN since it was a UN trust territory.

[Xildiiid]

Somaliland existed as a sovereign state when your country was still a UN trust territory.

So this 'qabiil qaran ma noqdo' argument is retarded and secondly you can't grant anyone independence.

Somaliland was made independent to join Somalia Italiana under the UN trusteeship
Then all tribes were against the colonials now the Isaak tribe just wants seccesion

We can't secede from something that we weren't part of..

[MujahidAishah]

Reer sh Isxaaq and awowo cry me a bloody river.. We have done nothing but calcaal since siyad govt collapse our fav catchphrase is waa nala laayey..


hawiye have been kicking darood .5 each other and xabashi ass since 1991.
These niigas took down two us military black hawks and never once have they cried


It's 2016 we are getting our ass whooped in the Hawd by the alla huuno police.. We don't even have integrity of our own border.. We have tribal battles all over SL our govt is a joke.. The sl shilling is a joke. .. We have droughts floods repeat every year

Tell me what 1988 has got to do with ppl dying of thirst and hunger in sl today

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

oday 40 jir ah oo sidii caruurta u caytamaaya:snoop:

[X.Playa]

Reer sh Isxaaq and awowo cry me a bloody river.. We have done nothing but calcaal since siyad govt collapse our fav catchphrase is waa nala laayey..


hawiye have been kicking darood .5 each other and xabashi ass since 1991.
These niigas took down two us military black hawks and never once have they cried


It's 2016 we are getting our ass whooped in the Hawd by the alla huuno police.. We don't even have integrity of our own border.. We have tribal battles all over SL our govt is a joke.. The sl shilling is a joke. .. We have droughts floods repeat every year

Tell me what 1988 has got to do with ppl dying of thirst and hunger in sl today

If only your brain was as big as your coochie

[smartyt]

Reer sh Isxaaq and awowo cry me a bloody river.. We have done nothing but calcaal since siyad govt collapse our fav catchphrase is waa nala laayey..


hawiye have been kicking darood .5 each other and xabashi ass since 1991.
These niigas took down two us military black hawks and never once have they cried


It's 2016 we are getting our ass whooped in the Hawd by the alla huuno police.. We don't even have integrity of our own border.. We have tribal battles all over SL our govt is a joke.. The sl shilling is a joke. .. We have droughts floods repeat every year

Tell me what 1988 has got to do with ppl dying of thirst and hunger in sl today

If only your brain was as big as your coochie

Ceeb warya

[MujahidAishah]

Reer sh Isxaaq and awowo cry me a bloody river.. We have done nothing but calcaal since siyad govt collapse our fav catchphrase is waa nala laayey..


hawiye have been kicking darood .5 each other and xabashi ass since 1991.
These niigas took down two us military black hawks and never once have they cried


It's 2016 we are getting our ass whooped in the Hawd by the alla huuno police.. We don't even have integrity of our own border.. We have tribal battles all over SL our govt is a joke.. The sl shilling is a joke. .. We have droughts floods repeat every year

Tell me what 1988 has got to do with ppl dying of thirst and hunger in sl today

If only your brain was as big as your coochie

If only your abdi fanax was big has your cuqdad

[smartyt]

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