Somaliland army chief promotes new officiers ( yup clan list)

[Timiro1999]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

NAH, inaabti maaha crying ee waaba cay sidaa u taal.
"Cadaankaanu wada loolanaa, madaw cisayn maayo"

[skywalker25]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

NAH, inaabti maaha crying ee waaba cay sidaa u taal.
"Cadaankaanu wada loolanaa, madaw cisayn maayo"

No offence was intended, but common sense must prevail.

The Cidagale will not support HY even after HY spent both menpower and money to rescue them. Then you have this clown Hangool making threats he is in no position to make. If he is not happy with HJ/SM go support your brothers, its not rocket science.

[hangool79]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

NAH, inaabti maaha crying ee waaba cay sidaa u taal.
"Cadaankaanu wada loolanaa, madaw cisayn maayo"

No offence was intended, but common sense must prevail.

The Cidagale will not support HY even after HY spent both menpower and money to rescue them. Then you have this clown Hangool making threats he is in no position to make. If he is not happy with HJ/SM go support your brothers, its not rocket science.

lool, look at this 40 year old fish and chips, when are you going to learn af-soomaali??, a very sad case indeed. Must be frustrating to be so in love with fadhi ku dirir yet unable to express yourself in ur mothertongue.

At least try once in a while duufle, it's hard to take a simpleton like you serious, sorry

[skywalker25]

Hangool, your a little crack baby or qad baby, take your pick. This is ramadan, so try and stay on topic and after ramadan we shall return to our usual position of me pissing on your forehead and you showering on my piss.

[Timiro1999]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

NAH, inaabti maaha crying ee waaba cay sidaa u taal.
"Cadaankaanu wada loolanaa, madaw cisayn maayo"

No offence was intended, but common sense must prevail.

The Cidagale will not support HY even after HY spent both menpower and money to rescue them. Then you have this clown Hangool making threats he is in no position to make. If he is not happy with HJ/SM go support your brothers, its not rocket science.

Waar yaa illaahay yaqaan, adiga maxaa kaaga shan iyo toban ah CG iyo HY haday is taageerayan iyo hadii kale.
Weligaa dad iska kaa xiga lama dhex galo waa iga talo.

[skywalker25]

Timiro,

Dont get all sensitive on me now. I know the truth hurts. Your special needs brother the Cidagale, dont know if they are coming or going..

This whole topic is about HJ/SM conspiracy, so striking out at me for mentioning the dis functioning relationship between Cidagale and HY is just silly. If you dont want me to talk about your tribes practice what you preach and keep HJ out of your mouth. Thats if we are all being childish..

[Timiro1999]

Timiro,

Dont get all sensitive on me now. I know the truth hurts. Your special needs brother the Cidagale, dont know if they are coming or going..

This whole topic is about HJ/SM conspiracy, so striking out at me for mentioning the dis functioning relationship between Cidagale and HY is just silly. If you dont want me to talk about your tribes practice what you preach and keep HJ out of your mouth. Thats if we are all being childish..

Anigu sensitive ma noqdo baa lagaa yidhi dadka waan kaga oohiyaa.
Adigoo sida kaneecada isu idul saaran CG waxba haka sheegin ma taariikhdooda ayaad ka makhruuqday.
Waxba malaha adigaaga dhawaan soo baxa ahiba taariikh yar oo gacan ku rimis ah waad leedahay hanagu ooyin.
Bal HJ afka ka dhigi maayee maxaad qaadi karta

[Skyflyguy]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

Skywalker It's good if habar jeclo and habar awal are allied to do good things for their communities. Every sane minded Isaaq would welcome this.
The problem is the winners of the war are treating their fellow Isaaq as an enemy even 20 years later.

If you had done ur homework sxb you would know the war ended as a stalemate ( even with ur cabdalleh isxaaq backstabbing Ciidagale lol) with exception of Burco battle where one side with the minorities ( Cm, Arap ) was forced out. however the political orchestration from 97 represented a win for Egal, since the Garhajis where split along a traditional line, unionists and SL supporters.

No sxb the war did not end in a draw, that's just the fairytale that the Garxajis side like to tell themselves, the whole war was orchestrated to make Garxajis nobodies in Northern Somalia, Garxajis lands such as hargeysa and burco was invaded but the Garxajis side never invaded gabiley or caynaba. one side is leading today and the other side is occupied in their own lands, also with a habar awal dominated military as this article suggested I don't think any Garxajis elder will dare to speak up about this hidden war

[hangool79]

Hangool, your a little crack baby or qad baby, take your pick. This is ramadan, so try and stay on topic and after ramadan we shall return to our usual position of me pissing on your forehead and you showering on my piss.

I'm not a homosexual like you sxb, Garadag and your dhulo boy friend is that way

ramadaan kulahaa as if a handicaap like you with a mouth of qoym luud is fasting, ( something I'm doing so I'll leave you alone, you're too emotionally unstable)

[JSLHistorian]

Skyflyguy You're a defeatist sxb. If the Maryalool crew invaded your xafaad doesn't mean it applies to everyone
though. We blocked Cigaal government having any access in Sanaag until early 2000s (when he died of heart attack),
furthermore we controlled Burco and also we killed hundreds of them when they tried to enter Oodweyne led by Muuse Bixi.
Conclusion the maryalool failed to control one inch of Ismaaciil Carre/H-Y land.

[Rambie]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

A rare sound post from you, excellent and very good points. Truth to be told alliances have always been made, but the military issue represents a threath to Sland as its something rotten within the state, a corrupt movement by the Sacad Muuse general who delegated nearly 50 % of all new nominations to his subclan, then left overs to HJ and other maryaloold

You are using the degrading term again.

Hangool take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The issue is way beyond the army promotions, I see it as you have a problem
with the political structure am I right. Our system work something like this, all 3 parties beg for voters and they make promises like:


'If you vote for me I will give your community the priority in hiring , promotion, development etc, etc ..'

Obviously Kulmiyi after wining would support and favor the sub clans that voted 4 them (yes the 2 biggest blocks are HJ & SM
but also other smaller clans) That is what was happening since 2005 elections. 1 man 1 vote using qabiil alliance to reach power.

Now, this system has kept us intact since the civil war and aside from political meltdown and drama every year it still work as the army
gets stronger and extend further with elders mediation keeping SLAND stable for the most part. This system is better than 4.5 or a potentially problematic federal republic inside SLAND. I used to hate this system but after thinking for so long I see there is nor better alternative.

Are you against the disproportional appointments in the army because it is orchestrated by Kulmiyi HJ/SM alliance or because of the 3 parties political system?

[Rambie]

I have my own suggestions to improve this system like all officials must have at least a Bachelor degree, Political parties
must offer their vision for the country or the community they are representing. This way we will shift from qabiil based voting to
regional intrest voting. Like Harti, Muse Abokor, eastern HY making a party to advance Reer Bari agenda. Mahamed Abokor, and rest of GX
making a party of their own to promote central regions. SM, CM, Arap and Gudabursi making a party of their own promoting Galbeed.

This way we can achieve something more productive and bring people with common interest together instead of the current state
of limbo and Habarcracy.

[hangool79]

The world is built on alliances and partnerships. If Sacad Muse and Habar Jeclo have found common ground and formed a union that's a good thing in the real world, not something to be used as insult. The real shame in all this is that the Garxajis are unable to form any kind of union within themselves. No man can be an island or in this case no tribe can be an island, my Garxjis friends. So instead of crying about bonds between other tribes work on building your own bonds..

A rare sound post from you, excellent and very good points. Truth to be told alliances have always been made, but the military issue represents a threath to Sland as its something rotten within the state, a corrupt movement by the Sacad Muuse general who delegated nearly 50 % of all new nominations to his subclan, then left overs to HJ and other maryaloold

You are using the degrading term again.

Hangool take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The issue is way beyond the army promotions, I see it as you have a problem
with the political structure am I right. Our system work something like this, all 3 parties beg for voters and they make promises like:


'If you vote for me I will give your community the priority in hiring , promotion, development etc, etc ..'

Obviously Kulmiyi after wining would support and favor the sub clans that voted 4 them (yes the 2 biggest blocks are HJ & SM
but also other smaller clans) That is what was happening since 2005 elections. 1 man 1 vote using qabiil alliance to reach power.

Now, this system has kept us intact since the civil war and aside from political meltdown and drama every year it still work as the army
gets stronger and extend further with elders mediation keeping SLAND stable for the most part. This system is better than 4.5 or a potentially problematic federal republic inside SLAND. I used to hate this system but after thinking for so long I see there is nor better alternative.

Are you against the disproportional appointments in the army because it is orchestrated by Kulmiyi HJ/SM alliance or because of the 3 parties political system?

The army is supposed to be a professional institution, rewarding various habro and langaab clans based on the merits of supporting a civilian party is hurting JSL militarys capability and professionalism in the end. Civilized countries have learned to differentiate this, but SL is an unstable habromacy something the international world saw long ago and has therefor sent away every beggar minister SL sends.

[Rambie]

Why do you talk about 90's wars?
We need to discuss the future instead of arguing about a useless war happened 20 years ago.

[hangool79]

Why do you talk about 90's wars?
We need to discuss the future instead of arguing about a useless war happened 20 years ago.

see my comment above you, please avoid digressions, you will understand the core in that reply.