Kismaayo officially changing from Kenyan To Ethiopian Control

[grandpakhalif]

It is confirmed posted by Hiiraan, Madoobe time is up and checkmate is near.

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2019/July/164 ... hdraw.aspx

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

Also what is your fear/obsession with Cayr? My father was born during Lafo Hawiye and our last serious clash was Feero Qumumux.

Lafo Hawiye was a major clash between bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini (my reer Siyaad and reer Warsame especially) and Cayr.

It's barbaric, but bah-Xawaadle literally put Cayr skulls on top of each other like a pyramid as an example. That's why the year my dad was born is called Lafo Hawiye. Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan's father Salaad Boy was killed by Marehan that same year as part of hostilities.

Feero Qumumah was the one time Caydiid mostly with Cayr footsoldiers tried to take over Balanbale (mostly settled by the same bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini).

Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi (my reer Siyaad Diini uncle) mostly with bah-Xawaadle fighters (reer Siyaad and reer Warsame again) not only halted Caydiid and USC advance but actually chased them back and even took over Guriceel.

Why do you think Caydiid was able to capture Beled-Weyne and Galkaacyo, but never Balanbale or Caabudwaaq?

They call the one time he tried "Feero Qumumuh" because after Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi defeated his attempt to capture Balanbale, the bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini used trucks and pick ups to run over the USC dead literally pulverizing their lungs.

That's the history behind Cayr and Marehan/reer Diini/bah-Xawaadle.

Yet Marehan and Cayr were able to put that aside and ally for a common aim.

Marehan would help Cayr in the Banana Wars in Lower Shabelle (ask Abdiwahab254 who always blames Marehan for Sacad losing to Cayr in the Banana Wars for control of Lower Shabelle).

In return, Cayr would help Marehan overcome Morgan's SRRC support that had Ethiopia using its puppets to help keep Morgan in Kismaayo.

No one talks about how Marehan helped Cayr dislodge Cismaan Caato from Marka first so Cayr could be in control of the road from Mogadishu to Kismaayo before Marehan moved towards Kismaayo. A number of the warlords in Mog were SRRC and Ethiopia could have easily requested SRRC clients like Qanyare or Muuse Suudi to aid Morgan.

You know why no one talks about what Marehan did for Cayr in the ALLIANCE but just what Cayr did for Marehan? I honestly think its because Somalis have decided Marehan is the main storyline in the alliance and everything outside of that is irrelevant including what Cayr got out of it

Anyways after Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan became President, the relationship got stronger since Abdiqasim was not only Cayr (by blood) but also Marehan (dhaqan, step father, history, and long experience in Siad Barre government).

It was purely a civil war strategy and it achieved its aim. Marehan got Kismaayo and Cayr (who were nothing before the alliance) became strong among Hawiye.

Even at the height of the JVA when Cayr were the strongest they have ever been, this is how the Irirism minded Ismail Cumar Geele described them privately to the US Ambassador according to Wikileaks;

DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process. Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan. Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.

Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and derive much of their authority from their affiliation with the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."

The message couldn't have been more accurate.

Cayr put their cards in the ICU and broke the alliance with Marehan that made them relevant.

What was the result?

Cayr went back to being a nobody and hold nothing.

Yet Marehan today is not only holding the Presidency of Somalia, the Vice Presidency of 2/4 of Somalia's federal states, but is clamoring for more power and would be in complete control of Jubbaland if the Kenyan forces were not present.

Your fear/obsession with Cayr makes me laugh like a parent who introduces a scary bed time story to a child and every night the child asks me to look under the bed to make sure the boogeyman isn't there.

Reer Warsame Diini have been the military backbone of the Galgaduud MX. When I went back to Balanbale I seen many of the kacaan tanks/bebe's from the old military base. Which is how we were able to defend waqooyi galgaduud from the hordes of enemies. Also why we got the VP (Carabeey).

Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Sharmarke have the upper hand when it comes to the south overall however my family's got property/land in Kismaayo so I have a vested interest in the south as well.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Also what is your fear/obsession with Cayr? My father was born during Lafo Hawiye and our last serious clash was Feero Qumumux.

Lafo Hawiye was a major clash between bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini (my reer Siyaad and reer Warsame especially) and Cayr.

It's barbaric, but bah-Xawaadle literally put Cayr skulls on top of each other like a pyramid as an example. That's why the year my dad was born is called Lafo Hawiye. Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan's father Salaad Boy was killed by Marehan that same year as part of hostilities.

Feero Qumumah was the one time Caydiid mostly with Cayr footsoldiers tried to take over Balanbale (mostly settled by the same bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini).

Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi (my reer Siyaad Diini uncle) mostly with bah-Xawaadle fighters (reer Siyaad and reer Warsame again) not only halted Caydiid and USC advance but actually chased them back and even took over Guriceel.

Why do you think Caydiid was able to capture Beled-Weyne and Galkaacyo, but never Balanbale or Caabudwaaq?

They call the one time he tried "Feero Qumumuh" because after Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi defeated his attempt to capture Balanbale, the bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini used trucks and pick ups to run over the USC dead literally pulverizing their lungs.

That's the history behind Cayr and Marehan/reer Diini/bah-Xawaadle.

Yet Marehan and Cayr were able to put that aside and ally for a common aim.

Marehan would help Cayr in the Banana Wars in Lower Shabelle (ask Abdiwahab254 who always blames Marehan for Sacad losing to Cayr in the Banana Wars for control of Lower Shabelle).

In return, Cayr would help Marehan overcome Morgan's SRRC support that had Ethiopia using its puppets to help keep Morgan in Kismaayo.

No one talks about how Marehan helped Cayr dislodge Cismaan Caato from Marka first so Cayr could be in control of the road from Mogadishu to Kismaayo before Marehan moved towards Kismaayo. A number of the warlords in Mog were SRRC and Ethiopia could have easily requested SRRC clients like Qanyare or Muuse Suudi to aid Morgan.

You know why no one talks about what Marehan did for Cayr in the ALLIANCE but just what Cayr did for Marehan? I honestly think its because Somalis have decided Marehan is the main storyline in the alliance and everything outside of that is irrelevant including what Cayr got out of it

Anyways after Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan became President, the relationship got stronger since Abdiqasim was not only Cayr (by blood) but also Marehan (dhaqan, step father, history, and long experience in Siad Barre government).

It was purely a civil war strategy and it achieved its aim. Marehan got Kismaayo and Cayr (who were nothing before the alliance) became strong among Hawiye.

Even at the height of the JVA when Cayr were the strongest they have ever been, this is how the Irirism minded Ismail Cumar Geele described them privately to the US Ambassador according to Wikileaks;

DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process. Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan. Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.

Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and derive much of their authority from their affiliation with the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."

The message couldn't have been more accurate.

Cayr put their cards in the ICU and broke the alliance with Marehan that made them relevant.

What was the result?

Cayr went back to being a nobody and hold nothing.

Yet Marehan today is not only holding the Presidency of Somalia, the Vice Presidency of 2/4 of Somalia's federal states, but is clamoring for more power and would be in complete control of Jubbaland if the Kenyan forces were not present.

Your fear/obsession with Cayr makes me laugh like a parent who introduces a scary bed time story to a child and every night the child asks me to look under the bed to make sure the boogeyman isn't there.

Reer Warsame Diini have been the military backbone of the Galgaduud MX. When I went back to Balanbale I seen many of the kacaan tanks/bebe's from the old military base. Which is how we were able to defend waqooyi galgaduud from the hordes of enemies. Also why we got the VP (Carabeey).

Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Sharmarke have the upper hand when it comes to the south overall however my family's got property/land in Kismaayo so I have a vested interest in the south as well.

The south is Reer Xassan, Reer Ahmed domain. The muscle is in the south kkkk

All jokes aside. The desert breeds fierce warriors I can't front. While Reer Diini was mopping up in Galmudug, Reer Xassan/Reer Ahmed/Talxe kicked Hutus out of Gedo, committed "Lafo Hawiye" in my tuulo, Buurdhubo and marched all the way to the south and kicked Caydiid and Caasho Caydiid out of Kismaayo. Then marched all the way to Balidogle without the machinery of MX in Galmudug. Wallahi we were animals in the civil war. Marexaan vs Muslim.

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

Also what is your fear/obsession with Cayr? My father was born during Lafo Hawiye and our last serious clash was Feero Qumumux.

Lafo Hawiye was a major clash between bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini (my reer Siyaad and reer Warsame especially) and Cayr.

It's barbaric, but bah-Xawaadle literally put Cayr skulls on top of each other like a pyramid as an example. That's why the year my dad was born is called Lafo Hawiye. Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan's father Salaad Boy was killed by Marehan that same year as part of hostilities.

Feero Qumumah was the one time Caydiid mostly with Cayr footsoldiers tried to take over Balanbale (mostly settled by the same bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini).

Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi (my reer Siyaad Diini uncle) mostly with bah-Xawaadle fighters (reer Siyaad and reer Warsame again) not only halted Caydiid and USC advance but actually chased them back and even took over Guriceel.

Why do you think Caydiid was able to capture Beled-Weyne and Galkaacyo, but never Balanbale or Caabudwaaq?

They call the one time he tried "Feero Qumumuh" because after Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi defeated his attempt to capture Balanbale, the bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini used trucks and pick ups to run over the USC dead literally pulverizing their lungs.

That's the history behind Cayr and Marehan/reer Diini/bah-Xawaadle.

Yet Marehan and Cayr were able to put that aside and ally for a common aim.

Marehan would help Cayr in the Banana Wars in Lower Shabelle (ask Abdiwahab254 who always blames Marehan for Sacad losing to Cayr in the Banana Wars for control of Lower Shabelle).

In return, Cayr would help Marehan overcome Morgan's SRRC support that had Ethiopia using its puppets to help keep Morgan in Kismaayo.

No one talks about how Marehan helped Cayr dislodge Cismaan Caato from Marka first so Cayr could be in control of the road from Mogadishu to Kismaayo before Marehan moved towards Kismaayo. A number of the warlords in Mog were SRRC and Ethiopia could have easily requested SRRC clients like Qanyare or Muuse Suudi to aid Morgan.

You know why no one talks about what Marehan did for Cayr in the ALLIANCE but just what Cayr did for Marehan? I honestly think its because Somalis have decided Marehan is the main storyline in the alliance and everything outside of that is irrelevant including what Cayr got out of it

Anyways after Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan became President, the relationship got stronger since Abdiqasim was not only Cayr (by blood) but also Marehan (dhaqan, step father, history, and long experience in Siad Barre government).

It was purely a civil war strategy and it achieved its aim. Marehan got Kismaayo and Cayr (who were nothing before the alliance) became strong among Hawiye.

Even at the height of the JVA when Cayr were the strongest they have ever been, this is how the Irirism minded Ismail Cumar Geele described them privately to the US Ambassador according to Wikileaks;

DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process. Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan. Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.

Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and derive much of their authority from their affiliation with the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."

The message couldn't have been more accurate.

Cayr put their cards in the ICU and broke the alliance with Marehan that made them relevant.

What was the result?

Cayr went back to being a nobody and hold nothing.

Yet Marehan today is not only holding the Presidency of Somalia, the Vice Presidency of 2/4 of Somalia's federal states, but is clamoring for more power and would be in complete control of Jubbaland if the Kenyan forces were not present.

Your fear/obsession with Cayr makes me laugh like a parent who introduces a scary bed time story to a child and every night the child asks me to look under the bed to make sure the boogeyman isn't there.

Reer Warsame Diini have been the military backbone of the Galgaduud MX. When I went back to Balanbale I seen many of the kacaan tanks/bebe's from the old military base. Which is how we were able to defend waqooyi galgaduud from the hordes of enemies. Also why we got the VP (Carabeey).

Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Sharmarke have the upper hand when it comes to the south overall however my family's got property/land in Kismaayo so I have a vested interest in the south as well.

Of course the Galmudug environment breeds fierce fighters since there is a lot of hot blooded clans in the area HG and MX being 1 and 2 hence Prez-VP dynamics even though our main population is in the south. This was tababar held in Doolow, Gedo by Janan and other MX sarkaals 3 years ago I know you guys also breed fierce fighters.



the enlistments of more MX soldiers in the SNA has started in Galgaduud last month when Kheyre visited now our tribal militias get paid by the FGS to secure their deegans which is what they were already doing.

[original dervish]

Looks like things are reaching boiling point.
The deployment of Ethiopian forces to key sites in Kismayo is ominous.

Overall the people of the region will be the biggest losers.
J/L should be the richest most populous region of Somalia.....instead it is sparesly populated, mired in poverty and underdevelopment.

[Django]

Looks like things are reaching boiling point.
The deployment of Ethiopian forces to key sites in Kismayo is ominous.

Overall the people of the region will be the biggest losers.
J/L should be the richest most populous region of Somalia.....instead it is sparesly populated, mired in poverty and underdevelopment.

Dont listen to that shit.
Fahad yasin bribed the Ethiopian general and he tried to use KDF to execute the plan it backfired.

Madhoobe is schooling ilkoyar in the art of politics do you think a formwr somali interpreter turned president has any chance against a battle hardened and a seasoned politician.

[original dervish]

What news do you have from Kismayo.
Clearly there seems to be a well orchestrated plan.

[DaroorMan]

its more likely MX will be cleansed from so-called jubaland then MX control JL

[Django]

What news do you have from Kismayo.
Clearly there seems to be a well orchestrated plan.

Nabar iyo naxdin have invested highly in cyber warfare.


The reality in the ground is different.

Madhoobe is not Xeef or Abu Mansur.

The marexan have no concrete plans to forsee the building and progress of JL.They had the golden opportunity to shine but they showed their true colors.
Back in 2013 they did fi3ld Barre Hiraale as a candidate but he failed to dilver Kismaayo to Villa Ugandishu.

[original dervish]

What if they team up with AS......the terrorists would love to capture the city....and the hagites would.probably prefer that to happen than J/L to prosper.I

[Caytame]

Lol @ all the bravados and chest beating.

Marehan are only a threat when they are leading the government like right now, because they have a tendency to use the government to expand and secure their clan interests while at the same time marginalizing their rivals.

The only time they were ever in kismaayo was when they had hg baby sitting them, and we a know how fast barre fled the city when it was just him, after the hawiye left him. They dont have the power to hold the city on their own, because they dont live the surrounding areas, which you need.


I will give you an example, marehan were silent until farmaajo was elected, now all the suden they grew a massive pair of balls.

War idinkoon shaadh dowlad xidhnayn noo kaalaya hadaad wax isku haysaan, but then again if you couldnt get kismaayo with msb tanks, farmaajo doesn't scare me.

Afmadoow isnt all mz, just reer warfaa and reer caamir, with ugas kooshin and higis living in kismaayo and gobwayn, with cali wanaag and other cabdulle living in jamaame.

Cawliyahans live in saakow, salable, buaale, baardheere and luuq.

Maqaabul, abdalla and abudwaaq live in baadhaahde.

Outside of garboharay and beledxawo, the rest of gedo is shared by mx, og, hubeer, garre, raxanwayn and dir.

[zidane88]

This was the pictures circulating in the media by desperate ilko-yar social media warriors. Mind you, Fartaag was vice-president at the time.
An Ethiopian officers reached there led by colonel for talks with madoobe as he refused to meet them in Baidoa.
http://amisom-au.org/2016/01/amisom-eth ... n-kismayo/

[grandpakhalif]

Funds to Kenya troops in Somalia halved

The European Union (EU) and its partners refunded Kenya Sh4.3 billion for its troops fighting Al-Shabaab militia in Somalia in the fiscal year ended June 2019, latest Exchequer statistics show.


Cash from African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom) in the 12-month period was nearly half the Sh8.5 billion the Treasury had budgeted for.

The 28-nation EU, the largest contributor of funds to the Amisom through the African Peace Facility, in April pledged to continue supporting the AU mission’s programmes and activities in financial year 2019/20.

The EU funds cater for allowances for the Amisom troops and police, international and local civilian staff salaries, operational costs of their offices, among others.

The United Nations Support Office in Somalia (UNSOS), on the other hand, provides logistical field support to the Amisom troops and Somali National Security Forces during joint operations.

The United Nations has, however, been facing a record cash crunch, which its boss Antonio Guterres warned at the beginning of the fiscal year in July 2018 would affect the delivery of its mandate if not expeditiously addressed.The Federal Government of Somalia is, together with partners implementing the Somalia Transition Plan, backed by the UN Security Council and the African Union, aimed at transferring security responsibility to Somali National Security Forces ahead of Amisom’s planned exit in 2021.

Kenya had signalled gradual withdrawal of her troops from the war-torn nation after it slashed the estimates of reimbursement from the Amisom for the year ending June 2020 by 41.17 per cent, compared with estimates for a year earlier.

The Treasury expects refunds of Sh5 billion this financial year in the year starting July, the least amount in the past five years, cash inflows which will fall further in subsequent year.

About 4,000 Kenyan soldiers are part of the Amisom, presently headed by Ethiopia’s Lt Gen Tigabu Yilma Wondimhunegn. Conservative estimates shows the international community pays $1,028 (Sh106,706) for each soldier per month. Their respective governments then deduct about $200 (Sh20, 760) for administrative costs.

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2019/July/164 ... alved.aspx


Subxanallah war Mareexaan awood badana, KDF just lost half their salary now

Things arent looking good for Madoobe

[KartiHaween]

The Ethiopians will not, because they fear it could potentially be a place where OGs will someday wield enough power to cause them problems.

in 2007, they did the same thing, in support of marehan.



Ethiopia wont allow ogaden to have any influence in Somalia, but it doesnt matter, we will get what is ours, by any means necessary.

In sha Allah.

These boons are repeating the same lies of the past, hoping this time it will come true, and things will go in their favor.

Meesha cida leh baa u hadhi.

We got rid of them when Ethiopia left them alone in 2007, we can do it again.

A full scale genocide is on the horizon, since it is the only thing they respect, as evidenced by their complete capitulation in galgaduud.

Madoobe has been too kind on them if you ask me, and today he is regretting it probably.

Its not just mx we should deal with, its every non Kuumade we need to get rid of. These land grabbers came their to steal our lands and we shouldnt allow that as it is UnIslamic. We cannot let these subhumans keep bullying us. Madoobe has been and still is too kind, every ogaden politician from ogadenia, waamo and nfd is way too kind to these Non Kuumade animals.

Madoobe may not deal with them but I have heard of some ogaden in his admin who have already called out for an out right genocide because they realized these barbarians do not understand hospitality, kindness and respect. I hope Madoobe listens to them and takes out these laangaabyo, one by one, with no exception. Ogaden cannot keep screaming somalinimo, something non of them care for and when not a single non ogaden clan has ever treated us as their brothers. They just want to take from us and we give them while they treat us like an enemy. We gave them and gave and gave and we have yet to get anything good from them other than genocide, siding with our enemy and or deporting us from their lands when our civilians need protection from gaalo.

[Django]

Funds to AMISOM troops in Somalia halved

The European Union (EU) and its partners refunded Kenya Sh4.3 billion for its troops fighting Al-Shabaab militia in Somalia in the fiscal year ended June 2019, latest Exchequer statistics show.


Cash from African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom) in the 12-month period was nearly half the Sh8.5 billion the Treasury had budgeted for.

The 28-nation EU, the largest contributor of funds to the Amisom through the African Peace Facility, in April pledged to continue supporting the AU mission’s programmes and activities in financial year 2019/20.

The EU funds cater for allowances for the Amisom troops and police, international and local civilian staff salaries, operational costs of their offices, among others.

The United Nations Support Office in Somalia (UNSOS), on the other hand, provides logistical field support to the Amisom troops and Somali National Security Forces during joint operations.

The United Nations has, however, been facing a record cash crunch, which its boss Antonio Guterres warned at the beginning of the fiscal year in July 2018 would affect the delivery of its mandate if not expeditiously addressed.The Federal Government of Somalia is, together with partners implementing the Somalia Transition Plan, backed by the UN Security Council and the African Union, aimed at transferring security responsibility to Somali National Security Forces ahead of Amisom’s planned exit in 2021.

Kenya had signalled gradual withdrawal of her troops from the war-torn nation after it slashed the estimates of reimbursement from the Amisom for the year ending June 2020 by 41.17 per cent, compared with estimates for a year earlier.

The Treasury expects refunds of Sh5 billion this financial year in the year starting July, the least amount in the past five years, cash inflows which will fall further in subsequent year.

About 4,000 Kenyan soldiers are part of the Amisom, presently headed by Ethiopia’s Lt Gen Tigabu Yilma Wondimhunegn. Conservative estimates shows the international community pays $1,028 (Sh106,706) for each soldier per month. Their respective governments then deduct about $200 (Sh20, 760) for administrative costs.

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2019/July/164 ... alved.aspx


Subxanallah war Mareexaan awood badana, KDF just lost half their salary now

Things arent looking good for Madoobe

Warya I read the original post its all of AMISOM.
All AMISOM are planned to leave in 2021.

I dont know without Uganda how xarmaajo will survive.