Ina dhabeeye speaks Ciidagale elders reject hy elders vs somaliland govt

[ImamAhmed]

Furthermore.....if sl pulled out of the east AS from the south and IS from Golis would expand into the lawless east.

This would threaten the western sl.
So sl abandoning the east will only endager its interests.
PS dont forget AS has thousands of sympathisers in sl.

We have natural choke points that we will fortify. Sheekh mountains will be fortified and the oodweyne road will be permanently closed. Anyone from the east can only come into the west with someone else as a human deposit.

[Khalid Ali]

That's never going to happen somaliland will never abandon the east how bad the situation might be the east is rich in resources gold gemstones maybe even oil.
The internal issues will be solved once we have a more decentralised govt more hospitals schools unis in rural areas in the east this is all cabasho about development projects nothing else. We are 4 million people how can you divide 4 million people.

[ImamAhmed]

this is not cabasho about development projects. This is about the election. The east will be abandoned if isaaq is not united about somaliland. Qasab mah ha. Tbh its not even that serious yet. But in a simulation were what the likes of kaliil are talking about is reality the east will be abandoned.

Noone has a problem with HY being president but a coup based on qabil cannot be tolerated.

[original dervish]

AS are not based on a geographical area......they're in every population especially in Burco/east.

Don't forget Burco is the spiritual homeland of Somali Wahabism.

The sl govt/ people face a number of possible threats.
Abandoning the east will mean the rise of fanatical groups in the north.

If anything wrstern sl needs the east as a buffer.

[Khalid Ali]

I wouldn't take kalil and his clan groupies to serious the more fight for justice equality the better for our country. Kalil and other are defeatest isaaq they would run to xamar when get the chance. Isaaq is united on somaliland but some have egos and it needs to be dealt with. The east will not be abandoned. Habaryoonis is a big clan over a million people somaliland cannot exist with out them the same with hj and Arab and Ciidagale wa inu caqligu shaqeyo.

[SahanGalbeed]

AS are not based on a geographical area......they're in every population especially in Burco/east.

Don't forget Burco is the spiritual homeland of Somali Wahabism.

The sl govt/ people face a number of possible threats.
Abandoning the east will mean the rise of fanatical groups in the north.

If anything Western sl needs the east as a buffer.

You are right to some extent .
In Burco this is the news of the day


Meanwhile in our parts this is the talk of the day


If your thinking is backward , backward things is the end result . If you set to apply a forward thinking approach , good things happen . It is about mentality .

[kaliil]

[X.Playa]

I think you’re misreading or ignoring a very highly likely scenario.

The Cidagale might be sympathetic with your current plight, but don’t confuse sympathy with outright support. They will not risk money and manpower for a lost course. Infact I would be surprised if the whole of HY supports it. When the day comes to pick up the gun, you will realise supporting war is not like supporting your local football team. When you loose it will involve deaths, destruction, and defeat.

The Cidagale are smart people, are the whole of HY dumb deaf and demented?

The baboon doesn't represent anybody , in fact he has zero respect within his on reer Guuleed never mind the wider ciidagale who rejects this drunkard buffoon. And even if the Ciidagale side with h.y or not , this won't change anything , even in the civil war during the 90s the h.y managed to fight on two fronts one against the H.J in the east and the Sacad Muuse in the west despite the ciidagale and their Cabdi Waraabe snitches siding with the Zubeeria.

The biggest ally of Caare and the discontent of the h.y block are the likes of Biixi , Taani and Kaahin. As long as they continue the unholy alliance of Jeegaan and monopolizing all political and economic power, even the aloof segment of the h.y clan will finally be forced to side with not necessarily Caare but completely withdrew from SL>

The crucial issue now are 2 things would this Biixi and his Zubeeria avoid the abyss and make reform , and if not once h.y unite against this Biixi would as before the H.Jeclo rush in Zubeeria defense>?

If we are all honest with ourselves, the HY masses have been failed time and again, by those they have chosen to represent them. It’s easy to point fingers at others, it’s much harder to man up admit your failure so you pounce again.

When the HY supported Riyaale against Silanyo which cost him the election. The situation was handled in a far better manor, which in turn propelled Silanyo to the presidency. Why are you choosing a childish destructive method. What is this jeegan you all harp on about. It’s just to tribes who have political interests aligned. It’s like you have given up on politics and accepted your defeat, meaning now you want to change the game to the gun. If you couldn’t win in the ballot box you won’t win at war.

HY had a legitimate reasons n not to vote for Siilaanyo a snake who destroyed Tuur government out of spite so stop this argument of why HY should have voted for their enemy.

The second part about you and habar awal alliance, that is no democracy, it's like two dude jerking one another in return. It's douply

HY need not even declare or wage war all they have to do is cut you from your zubeeria ally and sip tea in the centre and bring this silly SL show to an end. Thats all it takes to close this brothel you and habar share and deem a country.

[original dervish]

Easier said than done.....the ha/hj alliance is political, economical and military that has been years in the making.

It would make more sense for the hy to forge new political alliances of themselves.

Wadani lost the election by about 200,000 votes....that's with minimal Harti participation. They got less than half of the Gadurbursi and not even all the Ciidagale.
Ciise too are up for grabs.

So it doesnt take a genius to realise Wadani could defeat the ha/hj alliance if they're able to broaden their support base beyond a single subclan.

[SahanGalbeed]

Easier said than done.....the ha/hj alliance is political, economical and military that has been years in the making.

It would make more sense for the hy to forge new political alliances of themselves.

Wadani lost the election by about 200,000 votes....that's with minimal Harti participation. They got less than half of the Gadurbursi and not even all the Ciidagale.
Ciise too are up for grabs.

So it doesnt take a genius to realise Wadani could defeat the ha/hj alliance if they're able to broaden their support base beyond a single subclan.

Good point , it takes a change of mentality once again

[theyuusuf143]

Easier said than done.....the ha/hj alliance is political, economical and military that has been years in the making.

It would make more sense for the hy to forge new political alliances of themselves.

Wadani lost the election by about 200,000 votes....that's with minimal Harti participation. They got less than half of the Gadurbursi and not even all the Ciidagale.
Ciise too are up for grabs.

So it doesnt take a genius to realise Wadani could defeat the ha/hj alliance if they're able to broaden their support base beyond a single subclan.

HY waa bilaa caqli , HA awasha marbaan ku guurnay yaguna marbay nagu guureen , automatically waxay ahayd inay fahman inay markoodii tahay oo ay nagu guuraan. Taa may yeeline anagii bay suuqgeyn iyo xayeysiis noo sameeyen,. Hayaay Muslim allaw ogaada HY iyo HJ waxbaa ka dhexeeya, waa jeegan, waa isku jiidh , waa partners of crime. Qisada jacaylka jeegaan tu waxay gaadhay daafaha aduunka .

Reer kan waxay maqlen waa la hanjaba uun malaha karti kale, waxan kuugu dhaaranaya madaxwayne habar yonis ahi wuu imanaya laakiin yagu keeni maayaan , anagaa u doorayna waayo yagu maba laha confidence ay ku tartaman . Legdin horteed inay dhacayan baa u sawiran. Anagaa mid habar yonis ah oo sidayda software jeegaamaysan ku shaqaynaya usoo xulaynaya yagun sacabkuun bay garaaci doonan.

[Khalid Ali]

Hy could have easily won. The elections if they played smart first Ciiro was not the best of choice second. Replacing mumin seed with the unknown Canadian ambassador was a bad move. And simply they had to focus on change. Real change the people were really fed up with kulmiye. But wadani was just udub with some new things and new faces. They could have easily get allot of sacad muse votes to allot of sacad muse hated muse. They thought they could win the elections with garxajis voting us one block but it didn't happen because of ucid makahil of samaroon were divided. Muse won because he first got the majority of hargeisa and majority of togdheer. And he presented him self as a strong man to cut on corruption. And almost the majority of awdal.. What people also have to understand is people here in Somaliland want change but people don't take politicians to serious. Because ki shalay kulmiye will join wadani or ucid. People actually miss siilaannyo days allot of hy preferred siillaanyo because siilaannyo govt lacagta la iska dadaadinjiray free lunches cars etc this is all gone now. Muse stopped allot of this. 2017 was the biggest test we survived this means somaliland is stronger today.

[kaliil]

Ha iyo hj haday 100 sano isu codaynayaan waxba nagama gelin oo taa cidi ma diidine waxa la qaabkay doorasho ku sheegi u dhacday oo madmadow badan ku jiray iyo siday militariga u adeegsadeen.militariga,boliska ,barlamanka,guurtida,komishanka iyo maxkamada sare intuba jeegaanta ayay gacanta u galeen markaa way adagtahay si isbedel ku yimaado.jeegaantu ina qaabkan wax laga bedelo ma ogola,anaga iyo ummadda kalena ma ogolin inay sidan sii ahaato.

[theyuusuf143]

Ha iyo hj haday 100 sano isu codaynayaan waxba nagama gelin oo taa cidi ma diidine waxa la qaabkay doorasho ku sheegi u dhacday oo madmadow badan ku jiray iyo siday militariga u adeegsadeen.militariga,boliska ,barlamanka,guurtida,komishanka iyo maxkamada sare intuba jeegaanta ayay gacanta u galeen markaa way adagtahay si isbedel ku yimaado.jeegaantu ina qaabkan wax laga bedelo ma ogola,anaga iyo ummadda kalena ma ogolin inay sidan sii ahaato.

Anagu HJ ahaan markad jeegaan ta jeegaan ta jeegaan ta ku celcelisaan waaban ku faraxna waayo kubad aanu samaysanay baad noo sallaxaysa goal kana adigaa iska dhaliyey. Own goal bay gaaladu dhahaan kkkkkkkk laakiin adigu garxajis iyo filimaanta aad samaysatay ma galno , HY baan kuugu yeedhna because that's what you are. HJ caqligooday qabaan , wax kaleba kama ganacsano aan ahayn HA iyo HY dhexdooda.

Markasta oo aad yaga ku tufto suuq baa aniga ii furmay. Markan yaga isku dhacnana adiga laftaada baan ku isticmaalaya . Anagu nolosha dhabta ahban fahanay . Sidan kaaga caqli badanahay somaliland dhexdeeda baan geeska Africa na kaaga caqli badanahay. HA yagu walalaahod makala jecla waa nasab kaamila laakiin walaalaha mar walba midka ku ruxruxan yaqaan baad ka door bidaysa ka garaca ah ee nafta isugu kaa keena. Habar yoonis waa garac famil Koo dhanba neceb.

[Timiro1999]

Hy could have easily won. The elections if they played smart first Ciiro was not the best of choice second. Replacing mumin seed with the unknown Canadian ambassador was a bad move. And simply they had to focus on change. Real change the people were really fed up with kulmiye. But wadani was just udub with some new things and new faces. They could have easily get allot of sacad muse votes to allot of sacad muse hated muse. They thought they could win the elections with garxajis voting us one block but it didn't happen because of ucid makahil of samaroon were divided. Muse won because he first got the majority of hargeisa and majority of togdheer. And he presented him self as a strong man to cut on corruption. And almost the majority of awdal.. What people also have to understand is people here in Somaliland want change but people don't take politicians to serious. Because ki shalay kulmiye will join wadani or ucid. People actually miss siilaannyo days allot of hy preferred siillaanyo because siilaannyo govt lacagta la iska dadaadinjiray free lunches cars etc this is all gone now. Muse stopped allot of this. 2017 was the biggest test we survived this means somaliland is stronger today.

Adeer HY Muuse oromo lacag ka dooni maayan ee dhaqan kiisa oo dhan ayaan loo baahnayn3
Reerka keliya ee dawlad ku daba nooli waa HA gaar ahan SM.
Somaliland hadii ay maanta burburto reerka keliya ee wax u noqonayaa waa idinka agaasime ilaa cleaner waa idinka
Waana sababta keentay in dawlad daba xaab laydiin bixiyo
NGO'S iyo dawlada waxa ku daba nooli waa idinka xataa caruurta ayaa garanaysa.
Muuse hadii uu musuq-maasuqii xidhey dee isaga iyo reerkiisa gaajo ku kor ka ah ayaa isku koobay ma waabu dalka iyo dadka u dhigey meel