Colonel Tuuke meets with President Farmaajo

[SahanGalbeed]

JaamacBuhoodle that is the standard Dhullo mindset, good luck convincing these dayuuso.


So many posts here hit the nail on the head, concerning the hypocrisy, and selective fake outrage. Voltage said it perfectly however the whole Ictiraaf project is based on fake outrage, and Oscar award worthy projections of victimhood in obtaining the dream of Ictiraaf. So I say have at it and continue the act. Needs to be more convincing, so more tears!

I dismantled every argument made by your fellow AMISOM subjects and not a single reply.

Isaaq is the only clan to sacrifice an independent, sovereign country they dominated for the sake of Pan Somali irredentism.

That dream officially ended in 1991 so we reclaimed our country and there’s nothing you can do about it hence the passive aggressive outrage.

We look at things differently. I had personal family who we’re gunned down by Qeybadiid’s men in Mogadishu 1991. Today he is a Senator in this Government. I’m dead serious if Farmaajo decides to take a pic with him tomorrow I wouldn’t care. Omar Finnish was part of a group that had it on agenda #1 to kill my people yet he was appointed city mayor. I realize at the end of the day as much as I despise these people, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and what Somali needs is iscafis, tanaasul, and a move on mentality. Habar Gedir are my Countrymen even if a lot of them support him. Again that’s just me, but obviously you folks think differently which is why I am 1000% in favor of secession even more than you. A fair demarcation of the Sanaag border, Sool and a referendum in Awdal. Once thats done macsalaama and best of luck

Again it 's all about you here and your Marehan stories. As an Isaaq we 've worked with different clans with each their uncomfortable past association with the defunct regime led by your deceased tribal relative Gen Mohammed SiyadBarre Barre and each their own doubts about the future . The reason Somaliland is more peaceful than Somalia is because we know how to do it and you guys don't .You don't as a Marehan get to decide for the northern daarood or the gadabursi , they decide their own faith and as it can be factually observed on the ground today , they seem pretty comfortable in Somaliland . I am sure you're a good guy but none of you Marehan can dictate anything . We 've beaten you yesterday , we beat you today and we'll beat you tomorrow. The sad truth is my brother , none of you were ever meant to lead , you're just not equipped for it

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

One clear indicator of how dumb a person or a people can be is when they never learn from their failures . Who wants to be ruled by stupid fucks ?
No wonder you guys are friendly with Donald Trump

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

Faraamjo lovers were having a little kumbaya until the isaaq arrived

[SuldaanMaplesyrup]

There's no point trying to convince braindead doofaars why it was a dumb idea for Farmaajo to meet war criminal Tukeh.

This pic will be used as leverage against nabar iyo naxdin anytime they try to bring up reconciliation or reunification with Somaliland

[SahanGalbeed]

, these guys just learn new languages , English , French , German , etc ..etc but their core self never change . Arrogant , proud and aggressive yet profoundly primitive.

[AbdiWahab252]

Murax

You can not compare Tuuke to Qeybdiid. Qeybdiid is a senator who represents his qabiil. He was elected by them as their representative. His past enemies have forgiven him and welcomed him to their own heartland. Farmaajo has to meet Qeybdiid.

Tuuke is a war criminal convicted on charges. The optics of the meeting look terrible. Tuuke is not an elected representative of his people. Farmaajo could have chosen not to meet with him.

Farmaajo’s protocol officer should be fired.

[zidane88]

Photo-op with a convicted war criminal whether its cocky or retardation it will really bite him in the bum.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

He was not convicted and there was no DNA evidence of proving that he is guilty. Such pathetic qabileste losers. And it’s a photoshopped picture, keep it moving

[Xildiiid]

JaamacBuhoodle that is the standard Dhullo mindset, good luck convincing these dayuuso.


So many posts here hit the nail on the head, concerning the hypocrisy, and selective fake outrage. Voltage said it perfectly however the whole Ictiraaf project is based on fake outrage, and Oscar award worthy projections of victimhood in obtaining the dream of Ictiraaf. So I say have at it and continue the act. Needs to be more convincing, so more tears!

I dismantled every argument made by your fellow AMISOM subjects and not a single reply.

Isaaq is the only clan to sacrifice an independent, sovereign country they dominated for the sake of Pan Somali irredentism.

That dream officially ended in 1991 so we reclaimed our country and there’s nothing you can do about it hence the passive aggressive outrage.

We look at things differently. I had personal family who we’re gunned down by Qeybadiid’s men in Mogadishu 1991. Today he is a Senator in this Government. I’m dead serious if Farmaajo decides to take a pic with him tomorrow I wouldn’t care. Omar Finnish was part of a group that had it on agenda #1 to kill my people yet he was appointed city mayor. I realize at the end of the day as much as I despise these people, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and what Somali needs is iscafis, tanaasul, and a move on mentality. Habar Gedir are my Countrymen even if a lot of them support him. Again that’s just me, but obviously you folks think differently which is why I am 1000% in favor of secession even more than you. A fair demarcation of the Sanaag border, Sool and a referendum in Awdal. Once thats done macsalaama and best of luck

It’s not a matter of perspective..

You’re comparing state sponsored genocide, confirmed by renowned genocide scholars, to casualties from the Darod-Hawiye civil war in order to downplay the seriousness of the crimes committed against my people by a state.

We were not part of the Walaweyn civil war but since you insist, what clan did Isaaq fight?

According to the CIA we had 2.5x the manpower of any group in the Somali Peninsula and 3x the amount of weapons and on top of that a united Isaaq. It would’ve been suicide for anyone to wage war on us in the 90’s.

Also the narrative of reconciliation is ludicrous. We forgave the neighboring clans in 1991 when we could’ve wiped them out completely. We’re not looking for reconciliation with failed state Zoomalia. We’re looking for justice for thousands of innocent people murdered by a state.

Somaliland won’t give up an inch of her territory just because you wish that your minority clansmen could join you in Zoomalia and increase your numbers. The borders of Somaliland are based on the boundaries we had when we gained independence on June 26, 1960.

[Murax]

^^

The Somali civil war did not start in 1991, nor is that when the Gov fell. The civil war, and fall of the Government slowly started in the late 80s. The military slowly started breaking along clan lines with support from Ethiopia (Mustaciil base). 2ndly this is tomatoes/tomatoes. If you ask me a former person who you say committed atrocities who is FAR removed from Somali politics taking a picture Vs people who did commit atrocities currently in the Gov in key positions. I live in the present, and if I was going to catch feelings I would based on someone currently still involved in 2019 as that is 100x worse.


Here is one point we can all agree on though. At the end of the day it didn’t matter whether he did or did not take a picture now did it? Exactly, so what is the ruckus for. As for 1960 border and all that, right now Southern somalia is a mess. The Non-Isaaq population are not going to start a war, create chaos for a non functioning state. That said if and when that day comes ( In Shaa Allah) I wouldn’t look for them to want to stick around, and you’re not strong enough to hold them by force.

[Xildiiid]

^^

The Somali civil war did not start in 1991, nor is that when the Gov fell. The civil war, and fall of the Government slowly started in the late 80s. The military slowly started breaking along clan lines with support from Ethiopia (Mustaciil base). 2ndly this is tomatoes/tomatoes. If you ask me a former person who you say committed atrocities who is FAR removed from Somali politics taking a picture Vs people who did commit atrocities currently in the Gov in key positions. I live in the present, and if I was going to catch feelings I would based on someone currently still involved in 2019 as that is 100x worse.


Here is one point we can all agree on though. At the end of the day it didn’t matter whether he did or did not take a picture now did it? Exactly, so what is the ruckus for. As for 1960 border and all that, right now Southern somalia is a mess. The Non-Isaaq population are not going to start a war, create chaos for a non functioning state. That said if and when that day comes ( In Shaa Allah) I wouldn’t look for them to want to stick around, and you’re not strong enough to hold them by force.

The civil war in its proper sense began in 1991 with the power struggle in failed state Zoomalia between Darod and Hawiye.

It is usually Somali “scholars” such Said Samatar and other Walaweyn that claim the civil war began in the 80’s in order to discredit the genocide committed against Isaaq by regurgitating the narrative that “everyone fought everyone”.

If you’re referring to Muse Bihi then why don’t you present evidence?

Somaliland and Somalia were constituent states of the Somali Republic despite the absence of a legal union. Failed state Zoomalia has no legal claims when it comes to Somaliland. That’s the reality..

Now when it comes to the minorities in Somaliland and their choices, if they don’t like Somaliland they can leave. There’s no way they would outnumber Isaaq in a referendum so what choice do they have? Zoomalia can’t save them and they can’t dislodge Isaaq who inhabit northeastern Awdal (Lughaya distrit) + Zeila, Sool and Sanaag.

In 1960 it was the Isaaq dominated National Assembly that ratifies the Act of Union and today it’s Isaaq that’s safeguarding Somaliland.

[SultanOrder]

Murax

You can not compare Tuuke to Qeybdiid. Qeybdiid is a senator who represents his qabiil. He was elected by them as their representative. His past enemies have forgiven him and welcomed him to their own heartland. Farmaajo has to meet Qeybdiid.

Tuuke is a war criminal convicted on charges. The optics of the meeting look terrible. Tuuke is not an elected representative of his people. Farmaajo could have chosen not to meet with him.

Farmaajo’s protocol officer should be fired.

It’s really that simple. Something that could have easily been avoided if he had people doing their job. Every president should have protocol officer for just these moments.

This is not about whether the charges against Tuke are legitimate or not. The perception of him being guilty is enough.

I will give Farmaajo the benefit of doubt but he should not expect opposition to.

[Jaamacbuuhoodle]

I dismantled every argument made by your fellow AMISOM subjects and not a single reply.

Isaaq is the only clan to sacrifice an independent, sovereign country they dominated for the sake of Pan Somali irredentism.

That dream officially ended in 1991 so we reclaimed our country and there’s nothing you can do about it hence the passive aggressive outrage.

We look at things differently. I had personal family who we’re gunned down by Qeybadiid’s men in Mogadishu 1991. Today he is a Senator in this Government. I’m dead serious if Farmaajo decides to take a pic with him tomorrow I wouldn’t care. Omar Finnish was part of a group that had it on agenda #1 to kill my people yet he was appointed city mayor. I realize at the end of the day as much as I despise these people, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and what Somali needs is iscafis, tanaasul, and a move on mentality. Habar Gedir are my Countrymen even if a lot of them support him. Again that’s just me, but obviously you folks think differently which is why I am 1000% in favor of secession even more than you. A fair demarcation of the Sanaag border, Sool and a referendum in Awdal. Once thats done macsalaama and best of luck

It’s not a matter of perspective..

You’re comparing state sponsored genocide, confirmed by renowned genocide scholars, to casualties from the Darod-Hawiye civil war in order to downplay the seriousness of the crimes committed against my people by a state.

We were not part of the Walaweyn civil war but since you insist, what clan did Isaaq fight?

According to the CIA we had 2.5x the manpower of any group in the Somali Peninsula and 3x the amount of weapons and on top of that a united Isaaq. It would’ve been suicide for anyone to wage war on us in the 90’s.

Also the narrative of reconciliation is ludicrous. We forgave the neighboring clans in 1991 when we could’ve wiped them out completely. We’re not looking for reconciliation with failed state Zoomalia. We’re looking for justice for thousands of innocent people murdered by a state.

Somaliland won’t give up an inch of her territory just because you wish that your minority clansmen could join you in Zoomalia and increase your numbers. The borders of Somaliland are based on the boundaries we had when we gained independence on June 26, 1960.

I found out the iidoor are tough behind their keyboard kkkkkkkkk

Xildiid Adeer Salamadow baad tahaye waanu iis naqaana , maxaad iis la waalaysaa ?
Ma 1991kii baad wax naga qaadi karaysay ? ( cajiib )

Awoodan military ee Isaaq lahaa 1991kii ayaaba yaab leh , anigo ka tirsana ciidamadii Gaaska 2-aad ee duleedka Hargeysa maan ogaynba !
Maanta iigu horaysaa walaahi
Maxaad ku dagaalmi laheed 1991kii ma Af Soomaali mise rasaas ?
29-1-1991kii ayaan ka baxay Hargeysa cid hub Culus haystaa kuma arag jidka uu dhaxeeyay Hargeysa - Berbera - Sheekh - Burco - Caynaba .
Nabada ka jirtaa Waqooyiga Somalia waa Xal ku yimi xaqiiqada dhulka taala lolz .
Caqligaagu ha shaqeeyo Harti Daarood kaliya ayaad ka adkaan wayday ( 1991-2019 ) oo la yaaban tahay sidii baad uu la dagaalmaysaa Dowlada Somalia ?

[FarhanYare]

Murax

You can not compare Tuuke to Qeybdiid. Qeybdiid is a senator who represents his qabiil. He was elected by them as their representative. His past enemies have forgiven him and welcomed him to their own heartland. Farmaajo has to meet Qeybdiid.

Tuuke is a war criminal convicted on charges. The optics of the meeting look terrible. Tuuke is not an elected representative of his people. Farmaajo could have chosen not to meet with him.

Farmaajo’s protocol officer should be fired.

It’s really that simple. Something that could have easily been avoided if he had people doing their job. Every president should have protocol officer for just these moments.

This is not about whether the charges against Tuke are legitimate or not. The perception of him being guilty is enough.

I will give Farmaajo the benefit of doubt but he should not expect opposition to.

We will give Farmaajo the benefit of the doubt. The Tuuke guy probably rocked up to the place uninvited, infact i don't think there were real guest list as it wasn't an actual xaflad, more like unexpected crowd who reside in VA/DC areas welcome. Every city has it's own community leaders so folks in VA/DC should have removed the Tuuke guy prior to Farmaajo's arrival at the site knowing the ensuing backlash.

[SahanGalbeed]

Faqashtu waxay ku darnayd , naanaab walbo aan xita kabahaaga ku aamini karin , bay intey direes iyo darajo dawladeed ku xil saareen dad bani aadan damceen iney masuuliyad ugu dhiibaan. Abihiin baddowda ka wasa !
Hubka ugu faro badan ay faqashtu ku urursatay waddanki Somaliya la odhan jiray , gobollada woqooyiga ayuu yiilay. Mar ay na faqashti ka baxday hawadii ,dee raggii meesha degana ba nasib ku helay.
Ninkaa xildiid la yidha been ma sheegin, si walba faqashta ha u dhibo qodob iyo hadalkiisu .