Fighting breaks out in Beledweyne

[zidane88]

can a nigga discuss historical documents witout getting called bon

u cans say tha discussion belong to a seperate thread but stop wit da tribal attacks

Why don't you call out when one of the boons called me "dabaqoodhi" or are you another boon in the closet?

[SultanOrder]

can a nigga discuss historical documents witout getting called bon

u cans say tha discussion belong to a seperate thread but stop wit da tribal attacks

He literally does this in every topic the discussion of this history has been brought up as shown by the link to an earlier discussion I posted.

Something about it is deeply emotional and triggering to him.

The irony is it doesn't even concern him at all which makes his negativity irrelevant.

[zidane88]

I will show you how, I , and rest of real Somalis, concern us. Let us go back to history a bit. Before the arrival of EPRDF Diridhabe city stats were 60% Somali , 35% Oromo, 5% others.

During EPRDF rule that stats changed to 40% Somali, 55 Oromo. Negele were given to Oromo in 2004 referendum.
Cadaytu, and cundhufu in Sitti region were given to Afars
jinacsane were given to Oromo.

Under Abiye's watch Baabile, mieso, and Gursum, and many tuulos at the border have fallen in the hands of Oromo, and Cafars, soon to be theirs.
Mind you, these cities were taken while Somalis were fighting. How ? whenever Somali forces karbaash non-Somalis the federal army interferes and orders the withdraw of all sides only to allow later non-Somali forces to return with impunity.

While above mentioned were/are happening, man, claiming rank of Somali President, are in bed with Abiye and flirting, his sole aim to be in power as long as he can. Here, we have group of people supporting him and attaking like a pack of wolves anyone who dares to criticize him. Have you looked at the mirror how you gang up to individuals here after one of you get karbaashed?

As far as "your history" is concerned the main reason you're putting 100 years ago wars is merely the name "mareexaan" in it, when confronted with reality you can't cope it and start crying foul. The gist of my intervention was, what's the use of 100 years ago victory when today everything is crumbling in front of our own eyes, and you want to entertain us with 100 years ago victory cause it mentions your subclan.

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!

[zidane88]

This is what i can't stand if you can.
https://borkena.com/2020/03/05/ethiopia ... a-message/

[SultanOrder]

Yet oddly, if that was your concern you would be the first one to support and even celebrate the story of Marehan and Deka Suftu. After all, your "concern" is how Somalis in DDSI have been in a losing streak and it pains you that this is not only not being reversed but it is accelerating.

Well here is a unique success story in this tragedy where a Somali clan who suffered the triple calamity of British imperialism displacing them, Somali-Ethiopian war further uprooting them, and then the Somali civil war providing Oromo the opportunity to push them out completely.

Their land was totally de-Somalized and incorporated into Oromia Rrgion on 1992.

Yet, this Somali clan, without support from anybody, no government, no other Somali clans, no even "DDSI" region decided to they were going to get their land back through and sacrificed much blood to do so.

This clan not only then SUCCEEDED against all odds, but, get this since you mentioned this, wrenched BACK land from Oromia Region and re-expanded Somali Region by their successful retaking of the land outside Negele to the Dawa River.

This forum is a witness to this heroic effort with live current events posted that were recording the war between this Somali clan against Oromia Region.

The forum only allows me to post 5 links so out of the dozens and dozens of topics on this record, I posted 5 showing the decade timeframe when this Somali clan decided to fight back in the mid-2000's to 2016 when the reconquered Somali land was recognized as the district of DEEKA SUFTU WOREDA of SOMALI REGION.

2007

BREAKING NEWS: SADE AND OROMO CLASH DEEP IN ETHIOPIA

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=139618

2008

Breaking news Rer Hasan from Liban vs Oromo Ethiopia

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=198803

2011

Dheeka district, Liibaan Region. VIDEO & WARBIXIN

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6&t=287473

2012

Peace celebration in Dheeka district Liban Zone- VIDEO

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6&t=304437

2015

Barnamajka dibudajinta Gobolka Liiban (Deka Suftu)

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6&t=367138

Forgetting being proud of, supporting, and even celebrating the story of Deka Suftu, WHY ARE YOU RESENTFUL?

Why do you always feel the need to enter any discussion of it with one singular gloat about this Somali clan was displaced in 1992???

Yes that happened, but that is the prequel to the story. The sequel is the victorious reconquest.

Are you Oromo/Borana or Somali because the only person who has reason to be resentful about this story is an OROMO/BORANA not a Somali.

You are fake and you are a hypocrite.

STFU please.

[SultanOrder]

There is even a 2014 topic about DEEQO AFWEYN, the Marehan warrior lady from Liban Region whose poetry and spirit was a constant source of motivation to her people fighting to get their land back.

Deeqa Afweyne (Liibaan Zone) Saar Gedood -video

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=346214

That is why the capital of the re-conquered land is called DEKA and the district named DEKA SUFTU, in honor of their heroine.




This is not even unique as this Somali clan has a history of recognizing the heroism of their women in times of struggle.

The town of Beled Hawa is named after Hawa Ali Gurey who was a leader resisting British NFD taxation.

[zidane88]

Again you got it wrong on the concept i am talking about. It is good that MXs defend Deka suftu but the defence line should have been at least 200-250 km north of where we are now. Negele city area.

Here's what of most Somalis aware of, Somalis have always got the upper hand when it comes to battles against non-Somalis. As it happened many times before, the battles recurring, liyu police on both sides will inter the conflict, then the federal army will intervene ordering the pullout of all sides, then committee of boundaries will be established, here is the catch, the committee's result would be in favour the non-Somalis. After that, The head of Somali region would be called to sign the handover of the cities as advised by the committee..a committee that's potraying of being out of conflict ethnics but, deep down, have blessing of the federal government strategy of land-grabs.

Those fallen cities have been defended the same way Deku suftu is defended. Ethiopians won't rest untill they got a port and border control of Kenya and Djbouti.

Abdi Iley era, 3 cities in Siiti zone were signed after conflicts, now Afars are even brazen to take more and we shall see soon other handover by Mustafe. Liibaan region was the same bogus referendum and 80% were given Oromo after recurring clashes. The latest committee of boundaries set up by Abiye's government there was only 1 Somali who were later resigned.

The war against Somalis in Ethiopia is epic proportion, but we're hardly aware of, as we're against each other's throats over our petty squabbles of clan interest and hunger for power.

[zidane88]

Those of you who are not aware what's around the corner. Here's another developing situation.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/et ... and-198955

[SultanOrder]

Bro I do not disagree with you and I have agreed with 99% of what you said on this page (the only disagreement being your snide "100" year old history remark---it amounted to discouragement/censorship), but you need to work on your behavior and attitude. It is very off putting and also you need to practice your feeling of goodwill. Just because Marehan and Ogaden have political problems IN KISMAAYO or you have problems with political figures in Somalia does not mean you need to feel illwill towards poor, nomadic, oppressed Marehans who have been forced into a bloody costly sacrifice to get back THEIR land in Deka Suftu. I mean you have CABDI ILEY, Cagjar, and every DDSI leader from your clan who have political considerations of their own. Does that mean I need to hate on oppressed Ogaden NOMADS who have nothing to do with politics?

Just some advice.

[zidane88]

My intent of 100 years ago was not to discredit but to acknowledge the current situation we "somalis" are in. Baabile, mieso, and other towns have fallen into the hands of non-Somalis less than 3 years ago...the wound is still raw.
My beef with Farmaajo is bigger than Kismaayo (which i haven't seen in my life) as a city. It is about his cosiness with Abiye. The thing that boggles my mind is why don't our leaders use the AU forces, our brethen Djbouti instead of our long time enemy Ethiopia?

I would be the first supporter of farmaajo had he cut ties with Ethiopia tomorrow.

[SultanOrder]

Abiy isn't bombing Somali nomads anywhere. Start with Madoobe and Kenya.

I happen to think Farmaajo's realigned foreign policy relationship with Ethiopia is GREAT for Somalia. It turned off the faucet to all the political subversion that wrecked Somalia the last 30 years.

It is Kenya, out of all the countries in the Horn, actually bombing Somali nomads.

[SultanOrder]

Abiy isn't bombing Somali nomads anywhere. Start with Madoobe and Kenya.

I happen to think Farmaajo's realigned foreign policy relationship with Ethiopia is GREAT for Somalia. It turned off the faucet to all the political subversion that wrecked Somalia the last 30 years.

It is Kenya, out of all the countries in the Horn, actually bombing Somali nomads.

[Khalid Ali]

Abiye is busy with more then bombardment he is allowing galas to invade Somali territories in Ethiopia dhaxalguuris ayu wadda nu cousin called
Me from Jigjiga the amount of Oromo infux in the city is huge

He said way qatteen the the border villages

Gallas qofki ehel mooda ayaa Walahi dhib ku qaba

[zidane88]

Abiy isn't bombing Somali nomads anywhere. Start with Madoobe and Kenya.

I happen to think Farmaajo's realigned foreign policy relationship with Ethiopia is GREAT for Somalia. It turned off the faucet to all the political subversion that wrecked Somalia the last 30 years.

It is Kenya, out of all the countries in the Horn, actually bombing Somali nomads.

Those who has been killed and having ongoing slaughter in Baabile, cadaytu, cundhufu, Garba ciise, mieso, Tulli-guuleed, all under watchful of Abiye, and you have decided like nothing happened because Gedo is more important. The fight is ongoing right now and thousand of Somalis are in refugee camps in Qoloji but they're not important as long as Farmaajo has a good relationship with Abiye.
That mentality ladies and gentleman!

[zidane88]

These people have lives, homes, businesses, and look where they end up under the watchful of Abiye. I hope you eat your word.