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Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:26 am
by BestP
theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:39 am
Markaa dib isugu laabtoo hadaad na caqli dhaantaan , keena xal anana noo cuntama idina aad nooga badbaadi kartaan. Wa billahi tawfiiq
Xalku waa iidoor oo laba arin fahma
1)In aydaan Dhulbaante xoog ku muquunin karin.Talada Dhulbaantana looga dambeeyo 13ka Garaad .Taasi waxay keenaysaa iidoor in uu deegaankiisa ku laabto.
2)Iidoorku waa in ay ogaadaan colaadinta Daarood waxba in ay ugu soo kordhayn, dabeetana iyagoo iidoor ah Soomalida kale u gar dhigtaan lagana wada hadlo qaabkii loogu heshiin lahaa MAR KALE IYO MIDNIMO
✓Waa in taarikh dhexdhexaad ah oo Soomaliyeed la unkaa .Mid la wada leeyahay oo aad loo lafa guray oo turid badan ka muuqato.Reer gaar ahna iin u yeelayn.
✓ Waa in saami qaybisiga iyo Dawlada reero lagu qaybsadaa .Qabyaalada xun ee qabiilku waa qayb ka mid ah nolosheena.Ninka siyaasiga ah ee qabiilka iyo hanaanka awood qaybsiga duraya waa uun MUNAAFAQ sad-buursi u miciya-lisanaya.
✓Waa in reeruhu kala madax banaanaadaan oo dawlad dhexe uun la isku yimaado. Waa xaaraan in Saraakiil HJ ah ka doobyaan carro Dhulbaante ,imika taasi way soo af jarantay .Nin waliba goofkiisa ha iimaansado.Iyadoo wax la kala leeyahay oo laga wada heshiiyay xuduud beeleed yada ayaa hadana is dhex bulsho la samayn karaa. Tusaale:
Ogaadeen,Garre iyo Dagoodi NFD waxa ay ku kala leeyihiin Deegaano leh xuduud cad oo la wada garanayo sidaa ay tahay Garre iyo Dagoodi way dagaan kana ganacsadaan Gaarisa.
Iidoor iyo Dhulbaante wada dugsanaya dallad Soomaliyeed (United Somali Republic ) oo deegaan iyo talisku u kala soocan yahay baa hadana is dhex gal iyo ganacsi samayn kara. Laakin, Iidoor xanuusan xoog hakuugu taliyaan garan maayo anigu cidda ay cuntamayso.
Gunaanud, adigoo iidoor ka go' Soomaaliya ama dib wax ula qaybso. Caqliga saliimka ah wa kaa!
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:23 am
by Gubbet
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:39 pm
Daarods are weak , unarmed and toothless. They are like a pet anaconda , you may seem too big but you are just a pet for every one, look Ethiopia , Oromo guy said to you qujbal and u responded ishi , Go to kenya , go to kismaayo , garbahaaray , laascaanood every where you have superiors telling you what what to do. Daarods are defeated and they should bow down before us and the hawiyes. Case closed.
And that's why you are once again reborn "Irir" vs....just Harti "part" of Darod?
Raxanwayn say "Meey am likee?" (AFOOW KU MEEE?)...at least of I translated that correctly
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:31 am
by Gubbet
BestP wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:48 pm
USC invaded Gedo terrorizing the local Marehan. After sometime Abgaal and Hawadle retreated to their territories but Habar Gidir stayed behind in attempt to militarily occupy and de-marehanize Gedo
but the Mooryaans chewed a humble pie after Marehan regrouped and fought several bloody battles that drove away the invading HGs.
In the North, Hawiye started the infamous Haaf Qiyaame war .USC wanted to capture the entire Puntland but they also failed to achieve anything but massive death and destruction on their end.
You don't know shit about history.
USC was in Gedo for 1 month and they were allowed to proceed in without a single battle because Marehan was surrounded by Irir and needed to know just exactly what the battle field was.
They held Gedo for exactly 1 month and 4 days between April 28, 1992 to first week of June, 1992.
And it was the only time there was total and complete Hawiye united duulaan in Somali history, even Gaalkacyo didn't have that. Forget "Samaale," Hawiye baad sheegtaye, even the Gosha on the Jubba River was activated as "Kamasle Hawiye."
And Marehan obliterated them like a glass of shard broken into a million pieces.
This was Dhulbahante poet Maaweel's poem XARBI SADE IYO XIN KABLALAX (Sade Prowess Is the Envy of Kabalalax) penned June, 1992 from Kismaayo after hearing about the destruction reaped on USC by Marehan;
Gabaygii: Xarbi Sade &Xin Kablalax
Gabaygan Abwaan maaweel waxuu ka marshay isaga oo Jooga Jubada Hoose kolkii dagaalada qabaa'ilku ka socdeen gabaygan u ku sheegayo guushii ay Mareexaan ka soo hooyeen markii dagaalada ka dhaceen Koonfurta Soomaliya Abwaanku waxuu Yidhi:-
Mareexaan dalkiisii xoree Ama xallaaleeye
Waatuu xagaagii Dhawayd xoog ku soo galaye
Xaaraami waligiisba waa xagal ka daacaaye
Xaq ku dirirse Eebbaa lajira oo xagiisa ah'e
Xunayn iyo waxii Beder ka dhacay waa xadiis ruma ah'e
Xogtuu Ina Warsame soo Bandhigay waan xaqiiqsadaye
Bal maan warkii xalay lay yidhi xayda ka cadeeyo
Xilli nabad ah beeshoo wanaag lagu xayaaqaayo
Wixii xoqaya ruux baaday ah oo laga xanaaneeyo
...
Xawaadle iyo Dudublaa ku go'ay xowligii Gedo'e
Colkuu xulay caydiid doraad looma xiiq tirane
Xarbiyahandii reer Sade baa xuub sidiis liqaye
Xayn goosan taa uu weer helay xero ma yeeshaane
Xabaal baan dhargine dhowr kun baa xuurta loo wadhaye
Libintay xanbaarteen kurbay naga xayuub sheene
Xanay ku hadha xabiib kayoow ku farax xiiran nacabkeeda
Adna xaasidoow xumo adays jaray xiniinyaha'e
Adna xaasidoow dhimo la jabi xulufadaadiiye
The use of 'Xawaadle' & 'Duduble' is an artistic kicker, it is the greatest metaphor for elucidating how serious the "united" nature of the Hawiye duulaan towards Marehan was.
Of course you would like to bastardize this history since you were USC yourself at that time as SPM led by Caydiid's concubine at that time---Caasho Caydiid!
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:35 am
by original dervish
The iidoors really have no basis for believing Dhulbahante will ever bow down to them.
They have never defeated us in recorded history.
Even when the last government collapsed in the North.....the snm couldn't come within 100km of Lascaanood.
It is the Dhulbahante whom have singlehandedly defeated the 30 year iidoor secessionist project.
It now lays in tatters........finished forever.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:46 am
by Gubbet
original dervish wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:35 am
The iidoors really have no basis for believing Dhulbahante will ever bow down to them.
They have never defeated us in recorded history.
Even when the last government collapsed in the North.....the snm couldn't come within 100km of Lascaanood.
It is the Dhulbahante whom have singlehandedly defeated the 30 year iidoor secessionist project.
It now lays in tatters........finished forever.
Remember what I said about "deterrence" during their attempt to retake Las Anod?
For 1 month I said, not a single Darod will send a man because Dhulbahante had to PROVE Isaaq could not take Laascaanood from them.
They "HAD TO" prove it and Darood had to even force them to prove it because it was the only way a deterrence can be put down so they never attempt to try again.
Dhulbahante singlehandedly in clear, written, documented modern history faced united Somaliland duulaan attempting to militarily "capture" Laascaanood from them and Dhulbahante SINGLEHANDEDLY repulsed them.
All of the rest is the clean up iyo goojacade iyo waxaas it is just the clean up which will become irrelevant as time goes.
The only importance will be how Somaliland tried to capture Laascaanood over Dhulbahante for the 1 st time in history and Dhulbahante destroyed that duulaan.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:12 am
by theyuusuf143
BestP wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:26 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:39 am
Gunaanud, adigoo iidoor ka go' Soomaaliya ama dib wax ula qaybso. Caqliga saliimka ah wa kaa!
Intaanu u soconaaba waa inaanu go,ono Cid walbaana taas waa ogtahay , we are not Somalians . Qodobada quruxda badane aad soo taxday idinka , mareexan , walaweynta kale haku camal falaan. Idinkoo kismaayo Ku heshiin waayey lecture kaas inaad ii jeedisa waxay Ka dhigan tahay inaanay serious kaa ahayn .
, we don't care haduu dhulbahante Nala go,ayo iyo hadii kaleba , muhiimadu waa inaanu magaaladayada goojacade difaacano. Anagu cidna weerar kuma nihin. Dhulbahante laascaanood kuma haysano. haday wax nagu soo tuurana wax Ka weyn baanu Ku tuurayna. Waxaan referendum ahayna weligayo aqbali mayno
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:17 am
by BestP
voltage
Why on earth did Marehan allow invading USC into their territories? The point is that USC showcased a full military might against Marehan in Gedo for a period of time .And as logic dictates, Invading army don't usually leave easy the territories they occupied which is why I mentioned Marehan spirited fight against Hawiye particularly Habar Gidir.
About Ogaden spm,The Hawiye simply outsmarted us.We should have never trusted the Moryaan clan of Mudug
Ogaden poet Gandal recited a poem depicting HG betrayal of Ogaden in Lugloow.A reverine village near Kismayo.
Ogaadeen waa buu Tala xumaa, balse maanta tab iyo xeel ba way barteen.Waxaad u moodaa Marexaan in uu maanta na badalay.Iyagaa meel na la haysan Fadaraal iyo maamul Goboleed ba
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:34 am
by Sauron
Another lost doqonkii ogaden. Once I’m a while you see one in the wild when they get tired of sucking xabashi cock.
Gubbet, stop trying to pick and choose what Isaaq sub clan to
Praise, aren’t you the same voltage who denies afweyne did anything wrong? I hope they throw you off a building next time you go chill in hargeisa.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:36 am
by skywalker25
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:46 am
original dervish wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:35 am
The iidoors really have no basis for believing Dhulbahante will ever bow down to them.
They have never defeated us in recorded history.
Even when the last government collapsed in the North.....the snm couldn't come within 100km of Lascaanood.
It is the Dhulbahante whom have singlehandedly defeated the 30 year iidoor secessionist project.
It now lays in tatters........finished forever.
Remember what I said about "deterrence" during their attempt to retake Las Anod?
For 1 month I said, not a single Darod will send a man because Dhulbahante had to PROVE Isaaq could not take Laascaanood from them.
They "HAD TO" prove it and Darood had to even force them to prove it because it was the only way a deterrence can be put down so they never attempt to try again.
Dhulbahante singlehandedly in clear, written, documented modern history faced united Somaliland duulaan attempting to militarily "capture" Laascaanood from them and Dhulbahante SINGLEHANDEDLY repulsed them.
All of the rest is the clean up iyo goojacade iyo waxaas it is just the clean up which will become irrelevant as time goes.
The only importance will be how Somaliland tried to capture Laascaanood over Dhulbahante for the 1 st time in history and Dhulbahante destroyed that duulaan.
Buddy you said so many claims about this conflictI lost count. The main ones were; "that you had purchased "all the arms in bakara market" that you had some "eastern european arms dealer contact" that you will send men and arms from central regions the likes have never been seen in the north. Somaliland will be chased out.
Here we are 3 months into the conflict and no soul can get close to goojacade, not you, and no harti or OG. Somaliland is united as ever behind this conflict, no international pressure. While you are being hunted down like some animal in a safari by the HG everyday. I said Hawiye would gain the most from this conflict and you in the central regions would pay the price for sending your men and arms to las anood. Somailand would degrade both your arms and men, sending what little left back home broken.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:39 am
by theyuusuf143
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:46 am
original dervish wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:35 am
The iidoors really have no basis for believing Dhulbahante will ever bow down to them.
They have never defeated us in recorded history.
Even when the last government collapsed in the North.....the snm couldn't come within 100km of Lascaanood.
It is the Dhulbahante whom have singlehandedly defeated the 30 year iidoor secessionist project.
It now lays in tatters........finished forever.
Remember what I said about "deterrence" during their attempt to retake Las Anod?
For 1 month I said, not a single Darod will send a man because Dhulbahante had to PROVE Isaaq could not take Laascaanood from them.
They "HAD TO" prove it and Darood had to even force them to prove it because it was the only way a deterrence can be put down so they never attempt to try again.
Dhulbahante singlehandedly in clear, written, documented modern history faced united Somaliland duulaan attempting to militarily "capture" Laascaanood from them and Dhulbahante SINGLEHANDEDLY repulsed them.
All of the rest is the clean up iyo goojacade iyo waxaas it is just the clean up which will become irrelevant as time goes.
The only importance will be how Somaliland tried to capture Laascaanood over Dhulbahante for the 1 st time in history and Dhulbahante destroyed that duulaan.
It's funny when Od claims that we never defeated his peaple , when we took so many towns from his own ugaadhyahan juffi ,
We can capture laascaanood if we want , but we are not interested . Simply because we don't have the right team to work with and we don't want to spend one penny to useless individuals. As long as we remain in goojacade , no other admin can work in laascaanood. And that's all we are interested at the moment. And no one can remove us from goojacade except our own government ( if new leadership come in) dhabayaco has zero chance against somaliland military. Hal madfac hadii nalaku soo tuurana boqol baanu dib ugu ridayna lascaanod. Ninku haduu xoog leeyahay rag iyo rabi toona ma yaqaan.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:49 am
by Gubbet
BestP wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:17 am
voltage
Why on earth did Marehan allow invading USC into their territories? The point is that USC showcased a full military might against Marehan in Gedo for a period of time .And as logic dictates, Invading army don't usually leave easy the territories they occupied which is why I mentioned Marehan spirited fight against Hawiye particularly Habar Gidir.
About Ogaden, The Hawiye simply outsmarted us.We should have never trusted the Moryaan clan of Mudug
Ogaden poet Gandal recited a poem depicting HG betrayal of Ogaden in Lugloow.A reverine village near Kismayo.
Ogaadeen waa buu Tala xumaa, balse maanta tab iyo xeel ba way barteen.Waxaad u moodaa Marexaan in uu maanta na badalay.Iyagaa meel na la haysan Fadaraal iyo maamul Goboleed ba
Wallahi I am reminded of Cali Dhuux Adan Goroyo "Ninkii Hebel Ahaa Doollo Laga Qaadye."
Do you think USC was even the biggest problem for Marehan even if the duulaan was led by them? What was SDM and Rahanwayn? Who lived with Marehan in Luuq, Bardere, all across even villages?
Who neighbored Marehan in the entire east even south except for southwest even northeast but Rahanwayn and D&M, Gasargude, Gababwayn? Was the USC attempt against Gedo even just a Hawiye venture or a partnership between Irir and Rahanwayn?
Who neighbored Marehan starting northern parts of Dollow and Beled-Hawa and extending into Ethiopia but Degoodiye, Dir, and more Irir?
Who neighbored Marehan to the northwest in Mandera, West, and even southwest leading to Wajeer but Murule, Degoodiye, and especially Garre and more Irir?
You think even Caydiid and the Hawiye of Somalia was the main issue for Marehan when living with them, among, surrounding them were Irir and the even more activated Rahanwayn which was the single biggest problem that had already killed so many Marehan fleeing from Benadir to Gedo?
Instead of having some very nice "Red Wedding" moments entirely at Marehan expense, they said let's give "them" who all mean harm against us stand on "one" side of the battlefield. HA LA KALA BAXO. The 1st part of the duulaan approached, Caydid and USC are given light defense as subterfuge, in their foolhardy they even laugh the doofaar Darood must have been even more broken than we assumed, all the 2nd, 3rd,4th parts of their strategy come out of placement, they laugh in mirth and joy,--they are given just enough time until there is absolutely no mistake about the battlefield----then Marehan who had pushed almost all of their fighting resources into that narrow opening into HABAASWAYNE and Cawlyahan Kenya came quietly back into the region fighting every single non-Darod community in southwestern Somalia + Caydiid and USC.
I am reminded of Cali Dhuux "Ninkii hebel ahaa Doollo laga qaadye"..."Ninkii hebel ahaa" walle waad tahay ilaahay baa ii jeedee.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:16 am
by cheifaqilbari
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:17 am
by Gubbet
Ogaadeen waa buu Tala xumaa, balse maanta tab iyo xeel ba way barteen.Waxaad u moodaa Marexaan in uu maanta na badalay.Iyagaa meel na la haysan Fadaraal iyo maamul Goboleed ba
Maamul iyo Goboleed ba? Maxaad maamushaa? Does Muuse Biixi "maamul" Laas Caanood? That's Ahmed Madoobe outside of Kismaayo port for the last 10 years. You to JUBBALAND is like Muuse Biixi and Laas Caanood right this second.
Maamul iyo Goboleed ba. Ar naga aamus lax yahay.
Wallahi I just find you irrelevantly annoying. Every single statement you have ever given had some grifting, inanity of insecurity towards Marehan. Laxyahay naga aamus.
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:32 am
by BestP
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:49 am
BestP wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:17 am
voltage
Why on earth did Marehan allow invading USC into their territories? The point is that USC showcased a full military might against Marehan in Gedo for a period of time .And as logic dictates, Invading army don't usually leave easy the territories they occupied which is why I mentioned Marehan spirited fight against Hawiye particularly Habar Gidir.
About Ogaden, The Hawiye simply outsmarted us.We should have never trusted the Moryaan clan of Mudug
Ogaden poet Gandal recited a poem depicting HG betrayal of Ogaden in Lugloow.A reverine village near Kismayo.
Ogaadeen waa buu Tala xumaa, balse maanta tab iyo xeel ba way barteen.Waxaad u moodaa Marexaan in uu maanta na badalay.Iyagaa meel na la haysan Fadaraal iyo maamul Goboleed ba
Wallahi I am reminded of Cali Dhuux Adan Goroyo "Ninkii Hebel Ahaa Doollo Laga Qaadye."
Do you think USC was even the biggest problem for Marehan even if the duulaan was led by them? What was SDM and Rahanwayn? Who lived with Marehan in Luuq, Bardere, all across even villages?
Who neighbored Marehan in the entire east even south except for southwest even northeast but Rahanwayn and D&M, Gasargude, Gababwayn? Was the USC attempt against Gedo even just a Hawiye venture or a partnership between Irir and Rahanwayn?
Who neighbored Marehan starting northern parts of Dollow and Beled-Hawa and extending into Ethiopia but Degoodiye, Dir, and more Irir?
Who neighbored Marehan to the northwest in Mandera, West, and even southwest leading to Wajeer but Murule, Degoodiye, and especially Garre and more Irir?
You think even Caydiid and the Hawiye of Somalia was the main issue for Marehan when living with them, among, surrounding them were Irir and the even more activated Rahanwayn which was the single biggest problem that had already killed so many Marehan fleeing from Benadir to Gedo?
Instead of having some very nice "Red Wedding" moments entirely at Marehan expense, they said let's give "them" who all mean harm against us stand on "one" side of the battlefield. HA LA KALA BAXO. The 1st part of the duulaan approached, Caydid and USC are given light defense as subterfuge, in their foolhardy they even laugh the doofaar Darood must have been even more broken than we assumed, all the 2nd, 3rd,4th parts of their strategy come out of placement, they laugh in mirth and joy,--they are given just enough time until there is absolutely no mistake about the battlefield----then Marehan who had pushed almost all of their fighting resources into that narrow opening into HABAASWAYNE and Cawlyahan Kenya came quietly back into the region fighting every single non-Darod community in southwestern Somalia + Caydiid and USC.
I am reminded of Cali Dhuux "Ninkii hebel ahaa Doollo laga qaadye"..."Ninkii hebel ahaa" walle waad tahay ilaahay baa ii jeedee.
What is your point after writing all these nonsense
I don't dispute Marehan drove USC away from Gedo.I also admit that it was a mistake a section of OG to team up with USC (because they eventually betrayed us)
Doqonkii Ogaadeen ahaa Doollo laga qaad .The same Ogaden who fully occupy Camuud,Walwaal, Wardheere, Ubataale and Dannood.Iidoor breifly occupied our region before we pushed them into the upper Hawd.
Haygu qasbin in aan qolodiina yar soo karbaasho mise waxaad isku hallaynaysaaa Habartii Smile ahyd
Re: North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:41 am
by Gubbet
BestP wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:32 am
What is your point after writing all these nonsense
Garaad baad u leedahay.
As for why I sharply respond to you, xaaq baad u leedahay.