Gloriously Educated Somalia/Somaliland nationalists......

[ABSAME']

Generalka, The little girl is learning.

[gurey25]

Exactly Caydeed.

The world is full of diversity of thought,
Why french existetialists when you have
Lao tzu , Mahayana buddhism on on one side and
the rich Sufi tradition on the other.

[generalka]

[quote="SomaliLight"]Generalka have you seen the apocolypse Now?, that i based on his book: heart of darkness, I consider it one of the greatest philiosphical analysis on the human condition, I absolutely love the heart of Darkness.[/quote]

Apocolypse Now?! Thats my fukkin favourtie movie of all time!

[SomaliLight]

[quoteGurey]The world is full of diversity of thought,
Why french existetialists when you have
Lao tzu , Mahayana buddhism on on one side and
the rich Sufi tradition on the other.[/quote]

Gurey without a doubt the orientalists have the richest peices of philosophy!!! but am getting there in those readings.

Genralka, that movie, and the book are horrific truths of human behaviour and nonesense! i absoluteltly love it!!!

[Caydid]

Gurey25, We see how western indoctrination has succeeded in changing the minds of somalis on somalinet. I have taken metaphysics classes and there was no mention of people east of Greece.

The middle east, china and africa have a rich metaphyical people but unfortunately they are not taught in schools.

[Caydid]

http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/islamic_philosophy/


There are some fascinating articles there

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="SomaliLight"]
as far as philosophy goes ....Spinzoa and Schopehauer are the ones i have read and Schopenhauer is currently my man in philosophy.( although he was very much like Galol when it comes to women )..[/quote]

Baruch or Benedict (when he moved to Neatherlands ) Spinoza is one of all-time favourite thinker. It was he who laid the ground work for Pantheism which later grew into believe system attracting notables like Einstien among others.

[Aiman]

[quote="SomaliLight"]^^ Dumbazz, whether you like it or not Somalia is going to be a liberal Muslim state, We are not ignorant arabs..and after 15 years of civil War why would we recontruct our country to become a mullah state potentially shaky and waiting to re-collapse. I hope that Somalia becomes a liberal democractic state like Malaysia and not Turkey!! I want Somalis to love their country and respect their majority faith, in this case islam. No somali wants a mullah state, we were never socially/culturally derranged like the arabs, and we should not go down that path after years of civil war!![/quote]

Insha'Allah, soon Somaliweyne (from Mogadisho to Hargeysa to Djabouti to NFD and the rest) will be run by the Ayatullah/Mullah and Muttawaciin Forces.
Liberals/moderate and its counterpart Qabiilist will be crushed to the curb. And last but not least the kufaars will have no say in the Somalis affair.

Oh I forgot Arabic will be the official language of communique.

Sharica Law and Order will be set soon real soon insha'Allah till then keep talking crap as you always do.


Wa Billaahi Towfiiq

[gurey25]

Somalilight
i think you would find this quite interesting.
The debate between the rationalists neoplatonic Muslim Philosophers and
Al Ghazali(in my opinion the greatest).

try to get al Ghazali's Tahafut al-Falasifa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers),

[Caydid]

Gurey25, Al Ghazali is a great philospher. Was he not the guy who defined "impossible"?

[SomaliLight]

[quote]Somalilight
i think you would find this quite interesting.
The debate between the rationalists neoplatonic Muslim Philosophers and
Al Ghazali(in my opinion the greatest).
try to get al Ghazali's Tahafut al-Falasifa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers),[/quote]


Gurey, thank you, i will definitely cheeck them out!!

Aiman--> thank you for your arab nationalism and cutural pride but this site is called Somalinet, and our country is Somalia. Somalia will definitely be a democractic muslim republic like malaysia. Once agian thank you!!

[generalka]

[quote]Insha'Allah, soon Somaliweyne (from Mogadisho to Hargeysa to Djabouti to NFD and the rest) will be run by the Ayatullah/Mullah and Muttawaciin Forces.
Liberals/moderate and its counterpart Qabiilist will be crushed to the curb. And last but not least the kufaars will have no say in the Somalis affair.

Oh I forgot Arabic will be the official language of communique.

Sharica Law and Order will be set soon real soon insha'Allah till then keep talking crap as you always do.


Wa Billaahi Towfiiq[/quote]

Waryaa, dheeg la'an saan bay u taala walahi! Are you not proud as a Somali? What you just posted wasn't describing an Islamic revolution but a complete Arab assault on our people and our culture. Wasax oo waxne aqoon aa tahay. Just know this: To be Muslim, you dont have to be Arab. What you wrote above is not Islam but Arabism.

And is speaking Arabic manditory now? When did that fatwa come down?

[generalka]

[quote]Insha'Allah, soon Somaliweyne (from Mogadisho to Hargeysa to Djabouti to NFD and the rest) will be run by the Ayatullah/Mullah and Muttawaciin Forces.
Liberals/moderate and its counterpart Qabiilist will be crushed to the curb. And last but not least the kufaars will have no say in the Somalis affair.

Oh I forgot Arabic will be the official language of communique.

Sharica Law and Order will be set soon real soon insha'Allah till then keep talking crap as you always do.


Wa Billaahi Towfiiq[/quote]

Waryaa, dheeg la'an saan bay u taala walahi! Are you not proud as a Somali? What you just posted wasn't describing an Islamic revolution but a complete Arab assault on our people and our culture. Wasax oo waxne aqoon aa tahay. Just know this: To be Muslim, you dont have to be Arab. What you wrote above is not Islam but Arabism.

And is speaking Arabic manditory now? When did that fatwa come down?

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="gurey25"]Somalilight
i think you would find this quite interesting.
The debate between the rationalists neoplatonic Muslim Philosophers and
Al Ghazali(in my opinion the greatest).

try to get al Ghazali's Tahafut al-Falasifa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers),[/quote]

The publication of The Incoherence of teh Philosophers ushered the death of the golden age of Islam. Al=Ghazali called Ibn Sina a heretic for suggesting that the source of fire is the burning object. Al-Ghazali asserted that it was God's will and in the process abandoning the cause and effect relationship central to science.

Although brilliant he'd done irrepairable damage to Islamic science and rational thought.

[gurey25]

No the decline of learning in the Muslim world began with the Mongol Catastrophe.
Tens of million dead due to slaughter and starvation, the destruction of the intricate irigation systems, the dozens of Universities, of which the
few surviving the onslaught like Al Azhar were the equivalents of a small community college compared to the Oxfords and Sorbonnes that were burnt to the ground.

People surviving , turned to excessive mysticism like the poetry of Rumi and Jami on one side and ibn taymiya's legalism and conservatism on the other.
Rationalism took second place, survival was first.
Thats why after the Mongols invasions the muslim world was no longer fabulouly wealthy and soft, but millitaristic and expansionist.
The reviival of Ghazawat movements like the othomans towards Europe, the other turkic groups towrds india started.