Yes, matter of fact it is your clan affiliation that I pin you to Abdullahi Yusef, you may thing your hiding your political clan affiliation well but you really aren't walaal.
Walaal I have already explained numerous times on this board the context of what Barre said, I do not wish to be repetitive; however, what he said was simply a hyperbole, a reer-mudug reply to the reporter if you will, nothing more. Lol, why should I mention Ghani or speak of any “atrocities†that he has apparently committed when you did not even bother to bring up the “butcher†of Hargiesa’s name, by not mentioning Gen.Morgon it showed that your whole stance is from a qabil perspective, and I dare not respond to such blunt attacks on my kinsmen, for the simple fact of being MY kinsmen; had you been sincere about the whole situation, instead of making its another way to "target Marexaans," then I might have discussed Ghanis actions in 88' and so forth.
My comment on Martial was not about Siyaad’s era, but the present era we are in, it has absolutely nothing to do with Siyaad, or saying its wrong for Abdullahi Yusef to make such rule. I simple stated that no one really has power besides the chief executive because of the Martial Law that exists, which was a respond to your allegations of Barre having some say in the bombardment of Southern Somalia; selective reading or plain incompetence, which is it?
Walaal, if the long-term officials did far great for the people, even admitted by you, and achieved far more then the sixties governments, would it not be reasonable to believe that their system was better, or should we all adopt a western way of thinking, that if its not “Democratic†then its of no good? Surely you cannot believe such bogus, the west made its policies for its lifestyle and its people, the world is not black and white, and something that works in one place will not work for in another place, to simply put itdemocracy is not something that works us; and, quite honestly, as I have stated before, there is no such thing as a real democracy in the world, to the truest form at least. Even Switzerland, which has been a direct democracy since the end of the 19th century, did not allow women to vote in 1971, some eighty years later after the "direct democracy" was achieved; is that not hypocritical; speak of democracy, yet only certain people have rights!
[quote]I cannot say whether the '60's government was consistently just, fair and promoted equality, since I was not alive, nor was my father in any capacity to partake of poltical discourse. But I know what they didn't do; they didn't suppress the media, did not torture political dissidents, did not abitrarily imprison those who were undesireable to the regime, did not arm militias and encourage to attack their neighbours, did not bomb their own, did not forcibly seize property, did not destroy wells in retaliation, did not have a security apparatus, etc. [/quote]
This is absolutely the most retarded thing I have heard. You were not born in the sixties, nor was your father old enough to remember, so you must not have anything to say about the government? Lol, you said your 19, you were not old enough to remember anything about Siyaads era, so how come you have so much to say, has daddy been feeding you BS? You cut your own legs here; instead of repeating hearsay as if its the absolute truth and nothing else, why don’t you pick up a book, research, and conclude your own ideas of the late president and government, you are a college student, do they not teach you to think with your head, or is “follow blindly†the motto of your school?
[quote]You want to know why Majeerteen elements began the SSDF? The SSDF was a short-sighted clannish attempt to get rid of this Dictator that daily harrassed and oppress their people.[/quote]
Walaal, the SSDF started its treasonous actions in 1978, so do inform us all of the harassment and oppression Siyaad Bare and our government did, remember pre-78!
[quote]Its reported that on the day that Hawo Taako, during the Somalia Ha Noolaato conflict with the Italians, Captain Siad Barre was with the Colonial police shooting at the Somali protestors.[/quote]
All day you repeat the same, “I have been told†crap, come with real stuff and be prepared next time you are ready to debate. Aabo baa yiri ma shaqeeyneyso!
[quote]simply because the Democracy ended without choas, and without death and disorder[/quote]
Honestly, you do not have the basic knowledge to even speak of anything pertaining to Somali history and politics. Was Abdirishid Ali Sharmarke not shot dead in Las-canood, was Cigaal not about appoint another northern as Prime Minister and himself president, and because of the wasn't there about to be a civil war right then and there, nine years after our independence? Acudubillah, how do you expect to face and debate people with such lack of knowledge!
P.S
You still have not answered many of my questions in the last post, but I think enough damage has been done; pick up the book and stop listening aabos inaccurate stories.
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
You two can pin whatever you want on me because of clan affiliation. My position, which is stated clearly in black and white, is irrelevant to your clannistic pidgeonholing of everyone. I'm not hiding anything. Its you who so desperately wants to pin me to Abdullahi Yusuf, so as to have a stick with which to club me with. Fortunately, I am innocent of Abiijo's stupidity, and the general moral bankruptcy of the TFG.
Just incase you missed my earlier statement of position; I think Abdullahi Yusuf's unfit to rule, and that the TFG is utter filth.
Sadeboi, Morgan was Siad Barre's son-in-law, and stood to benefit so much from the Dictatorship. It was the Dictatorship that gave him governorship over Hargeisa, the familial links to the Dictator that ensured loyalty above and beyond any moral constraints in the killing and butchering of innocents, when such an opportunity would never have arisen if the Democratic government continued. So your sidestepping the Ghani issue was a boon for you, you see, since it would have exposed the above embarassing little tidbit now, wouldn't it? The Dictatorship gave the opportunity to these Marehan and Majeerteen morons who committed such atrocities in its name, in its service and in its protection, and as such is as guilty of their crimes as they are. Show me a Democracy that has military governors for its cities, Sadeboi.
You two have still not addressed me on the serious abuses of power Mr Barre perpetrated as 'The People's President', nor any of the other pertinent issues I raised. You have instead done a number of things to obfuscate the issue and run from answering my numerous queries, and addressing my numerous points. You quickly pick up on my admission that I have no first hand knowledge of the two era's, and use it as an excuse to question whether I am even qualified to make my comments. Let me put you straight; my father does not answer any qabeel related questions of mine, so that is put to rest. Second, the mere fact that you are unable to address, let alone refute any of my salient posts points to the veracity and veritable arguments. Add this to the fact that all of my strongest points are related to the typical actions of a Dictatorship, and you have some very qualified, and as yet, unassailable points. The second thing you do is repeatedly harp on about corruption in the 1960's government, as if the Dictatorship was saintly and corruption free, and continue to harp on about the benefits that the Dictatorship brought to Somalia, which might be salient were this an argument over the achievements of both forms of government. Thankfully, this is about the morality and constitutionality of Siad Barre's regime, his actions and the actions of those who repsented him. You've repeated these points ad nauseum, like a prayer of deliverance, which unfortunately, is immaterial to the argument here, which is the constitutional and moral cridentials of the Barre regime.
'By their fruits, ye shall know them'. A very useful maxim when judging the worth of a leader, a government, a social movement, etc. In the end, what is the tally of their accomplishments, and what did it cost to acquire them.
As for damage done, Sadeboi, 'walaal', you have still not addressed the issues raides in my FIRST post in this thread, which was a very sarcastic retort on the constitutionality of Siad Barre's regime, let alone his actions, and whether these things were largely for the benefit of the people, or if they were to perpetuate the regime. We all know what the answer to this very simple point is, except for you and your brother. As such, talk of damage done is superficial, when you have written so much and still have ducked, circumvented, obfuscated, brought in peripheral material and a whole host of other technique's in order to avoid addressing this one point, and its derivatives.
I present the following as evidence of your technique:
[quote="sadeboi"
[quote="Padishah"]I cannot say whether the '60's government was consistently just, fair and promoted equality, since I was not alive, nor was my father in any capacity to partake of poltical discourse. But I know what they didn't do; they didn't suppress the media, did not torture political dissidents, did not abitrarily imprison those who were undesireable to the regime, did not arm militias and encourage to attack their neighbours, did not bomb their own, did not forcibly seize property, did not destroy wells in retaliation, did not have a security apparatus, etc. [/quote]
This is absolutely the most retarded thing I have heard. You were not born in the sixties, nor was your father old enough to remember, so you must not have anything to say about the government? Lol, you said your 19, you were not old enough to remember anything about Siyaads era, so how come you have so much to say, has daddy been feeding you BS? You cut your own legs here; instead of repeating hearsay as if its the absolute truth and nothing else, why don’t you pick up a book, research, and conclude your own ideas of the late president and government, you are a college student, do they not teach you to think with your head, or is “follow blindly†the motto of your school?
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An utter sidestep if I ever saw one. In that whole pile of rubbish, you did not ONCE, address my point. These are common, well known things Dictatorships do, except the arming thing. What is the hearsay in stating generally, that Dictatorships are wont to do these things. Of course, your only defence for the above is to dismiss it as hearsay, when its no such thing! And the last line was just classic. I'm the one being accused of self-delusion! Truly, the sick cannot diagnose themselves!
What you need is to confront the reality that the Dictatorship was morally bankrupt, and the benefits brought to the Somali people from military efficiency were transient. Come back to me when you have an answer for me on the issues I discussed, and then we can broaden the discussion to give you the opportunity to harp some more. You're quite fond of it.
Just incase you missed my earlier statement of position; I think Abdullahi Yusuf's unfit to rule, and that the TFG is utter filth.
Sadeboi, Morgan was Siad Barre's son-in-law, and stood to benefit so much from the Dictatorship. It was the Dictatorship that gave him governorship over Hargeisa, the familial links to the Dictator that ensured loyalty above and beyond any moral constraints in the killing and butchering of innocents, when such an opportunity would never have arisen if the Democratic government continued. So your sidestepping the Ghani issue was a boon for you, you see, since it would have exposed the above embarassing little tidbit now, wouldn't it? The Dictatorship gave the opportunity to these Marehan and Majeerteen morons who committed such atrocities in its name, in its service and in its protection, and as such is as guilty of their crimes as they are. Show me a Democracy that has military governors for its cities, Sadeboi.
You two have still not addressed me on the serious abuses of power Mr Barre perpetrated as 'The People's President', nor any of the other pertinent issues I raised. You have instead done a number of things to obfuscate the issue and run from answering my numerous queries, and addressing my numerous points. You quickly pick up on my admission that I have no first hand knowledge of the two era's, and use it as an excuse to question whether I am even qualified to make my comments. Let me put you straight; my father does not answer any qabeel related questions of mine, so that is put to rest. Second, the mere fact that you are unable to address, let alone refute any of my salient posts points to the veracity and veritable arguments. Add this to the fact that all of my strongest points are related to the typical actions of a Dictatorship, and you have some very qualified, and as yet, unassailable points. The second thing you do is repeatedly harp on about corruption in the 1960's government, as if the Dictatorship was saintly and corruption free, and continue to harp on about the benefits that the Dictatorship brought to Somalia, which might be salient were this an argument over the achievements of both forms of government. Thankfully, this is about the morality and constitutionality of Siad Barre's regime, his actions and the actions of those who repsented him. You've repeated these points ad nauseum, like a prayer of deliverance, which unfortunately, is immaterial to the argument here, which is the constitutional and moral cridentials of the Barre regime.
'By their fruits, ye shall know them'. A very useful maxim when judging the worth of a leader, a government, a social movement, etc. In the end, what is the tally of their accomplishments, and what did it cost to acquire them.
As for damage done, Sadeboi, 'walaal', you have still not addressed the issues raides in my FIRST post in this thread, which was a very sarcastic retort on the constitutionality of Siad Barre's regime, let alone his actions, and whether these things were largely for the benefit of the people, or if they were to perpetuate the regime. We all know what the answer to this very simple point is, except for you and your brother. As such, talk of damage done is superficial, when you have written so much and still have ducked, circumvented, obfuscated, brought in peripheral material and a whole host of other technique's in order to avoid addressing this one point, and its derivatives.
I present the following as evidence of your technique:
[quote="sadeboi"
[quote="Padishah"]I cannot say whether the '60's government was consistently just, fair and promoted equality, since I was not alive, nor was my father in any capacity to partake of poltical discourse. But I know what they didn't do; they didn't suppress the media, did not torture political dissidents, did not abitrarily imprison those who were undesireable to the regime, did not arm militias and encourage to attack their neighbours, did not bomb their own, did not forcibly seize property, did not destroy wells in retaliation, did not have a security apparatus, etc. [/quote]
This is absolutely the most retarded thing I have heard. You were not born in the sixties, nor was your father old enough to remember, so you must not have anything to say about the government? Lol, you said your 19, you were not old enough to remember anything about Siyaads era, so how come you have so much to say, has daddy been feeding you BS? You cut your own legs here; instead of repeating hearsay as if its the absolute truth and nothing else, why don’t you pick up a book, research, and conclude your own ideas of the late president and government, you are a college student, do they not teach you to think with your head, or is “follow blindly†the motto of your school?
[/quote]
An utter sidestep if I ever saw one. In that whole pile of rubbish, you did not ONCE, address my point. These are common, well known things Dictatorships do, except the arming thing. What is the hearsay in stating generally, that Dictatorships are wont to do these things. Of course, your only defence for the above is to dismiss it as hearsay, when its no such thing! And the last line was just classic. I'm the one being accused of self-delusion! Truly, the sick cannot diagnose themselves!
What you need is to confront the reality that the Dictatorship was morally bankrupt, and the benefits brought to the Somali people from military efficiency were transient. Come back to me when you have an answer for me on the issues I discussed, and then we can broaden the discussion to give you the opportunity to harp some more. You're quite fond of it.
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Padisha, i can't believe you're argueing with two of the illest qbilist here about democracy values and morals. You can't tell em that siyaad was ever wrong even if you were to perform divine miracles.
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Bagamundo, whatever others might say, I still think Siad Barre's rule, in a way, can be taken as a lesson for what we can achieve when we leave behind the paralysing effect of clannism in politics. These two clowns are right in their documentation of the achievemtns of Barre's regime. But it came at an unacceptable cost. As a people, we cannot return to the paralysing inefficiency and talkfest that characterised the Democratic period, nor can we accept the suppression of rights, and the monopolisation of power and authority that was the Dictatorship period.
He was good for Somalia, in that, through him, Allah was providing us with the lesson that to better ourselves, we would have to stop relying on qabeel, and begin working for the horumar of our country, the kulan and ihtiraam that our Prophet left us with in the concept of Shura, and the general concern for your neighbour as a MAN, not as a fellow Majeerteen, or Abgaal, or whatever.
Somalia now is the product of not learning that lesson, and Dawladsade and Sadeboi are right when they say that this began when Majeerteen brought qabeel back into the equation, with the SSDF. This short-sighted little venture might have been our version of Pandora opening her accursed box. But the SSDF became quite irrelevant, as I recall. I think that all the dying Majeerteen did during the dark days of 1991 in some way, made up for that very costly mistake.
Now, we have Abdullahi Yusuf. And this time, its seems Hope decided to the stay in Pandora's box.
He was good for Somalia, in that, through him, Allah was providing us with the lesson that to better ourselves, we would have to stop relying on qabeel, and begin working for the horumar of our country, the kulan and ihtiraam that our Prophet left us with in the concept of Shura, and the general concern for your neighbour as a MAN, not as a fellow Majeerteen, or Abgaal, or whatever.
Somalia now is the product of not learning that lesson, and Dawladsade and Sadeboi are right when they say that this began when Majeerteen brought qabeel back into the equation, with the SSDF. This short-sighted little venture might have been our version of Pandora opening her accursed box. But the SSDF became quite irrelevant, as I recall. I think that all the dying Majeerteen did during the dark days of 1991 in some way, made up for that very costly mistake.
Now, we have Abdullahi Yusuf. And this time, its seems Hope decided to the stay in Pandora's box.
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Salaamu Calaykum Dhamaan
Very nice debate. I enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks to sadeboi, Dawlad Sade and Padishah.
To 1mansquad, eedo, why don't you leave your ina adeer alone? We all know for a fact that Cilmiile is dhulbahante. Chill eedo.
Kurus
Very nice debate. I enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks to sadeboi, Dawlad Sade and Padishah.
To 1mansquad, eedo, why don't you leave your ina adeer alone? We all know for a fact that Cilmiile is dhulbahante. Chill eedo.
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
[quote="Galol"]Royal
If Cilmiile managed to beat Xplaya for once it is a great story. But where did it happen? I would love to see it. You see Kombos never defeated Habr Yonis in a real war so it will make a nice change if they could do it on cyber wouldnt it?[/quote]
Ouchhhh.....
If Cilmiile managed to beat Xplaya for once it is a great story. But where did it happen? I would love to see it. You see Kombos never defeated Habr Yonis in a real war so it will make a nice change if they could do it on cyber wouldnt it?[/quote]
Ouchhhh.....
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
I followed in your footsteps; you mentioned Barre's defense minster position in the government saying that he has partaken in the bombardment of Southern Somalia because of the clan affiliation I share with him, however, you did not mentioned whom the defense minster of the Siyaad government was, nor have you pinned in the incidents of Hargiesa on anyone else besides the late president. You made it a qabil thing, so I have every right to pin you to your kinsmen.
So if you know of Morgon and what he did in Hargiesa, then why did you not mention that, you mentioned Ghani and the "crimes" he committed, yet you failed to bring up a man who is said to have been worst then him; another case proven that you are attacking the qabil as a whole.
Now about questioning if you are fit to even debate about the issues in here. Walaal, you stated that you are unaware of the sixties government or what it did because " you weren't alive then, nor was your father old enough to have knowledge of it." What you basically said is that you get all your information from your father and his tells [making it right for me to dismiss it as 'hearsay] and I asked the question; you were not old enough [your a nineteen year old] to remember anything about Siyaads era, so how come you have so much to say about him and his government, yet when asked about the governments before him, your simple ignore the questions by saying you "weren't alive then." Does that make sense in your head, it sure doesn't to me.
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Now for some seriousness, I hope the kitchen is not too hot.
You have repeated throughout the debate that Barres long-term president, and not a "democracy," as if anyone is disagreeing with you, and I think you want to just talk about Barre's reign without us looking into the governments before him, that is why you keep mentioning that those governments were democratically elected, as if we should just leave it there.
You stated that the SSDF was an organization that wanted to rid the longterm president who harassed and oppressed the people, yet you could not mention any wrong Siyaad had done pre-78.
You stated that Barre's government was worst the one before him, yet you could not say how, you even mentioned your limited-to-zero knowledge of that time.
You stated that Barres government achieved so much, far more then any other government before him, yet he was bad for the people.
So I am asking you now, in front of every one to answer these questions:
1) How was Siyaads government worst then the sixties government? And do spare us the bull crap of them being democratically elected for I have already talked about the fairytale democracy.
2) Was the sixties government not corrupt? Was there not a political turmoil? Were we not in brink of a civil war nine years after our independence? Did Somalis not rejoice after their overthrow?
3) Explain to us how the Siyaads government was unfair and harassing the people pre-78? Explain what wrong the government has done before 78, besides preach, unity, equality, justice, and achieving the best for the county.
4) Lastly, was the SSDF not a treasonous group with a clan mentality when the rest of the nation was high on Somali unity? Are they not the blame for the downfall of Somalia?
Answer these questions!
So if you know of Morgon and what he did in Hargiesa, then why did you not mention that, you mentioned Ghani and the "crimes" he committed, yet you failed to bring up a man who is said to have been worst then him; another case proven that you are attacking the qabil as a whole.
Now about questioning if you are fit to even debate about the issues in here. Walaal, you stated that you are unaware of the sixties government or what it did because " you weren't alive then, nor was your father old enough to have knowledge of it." What you basically said is that you get all your information from your father and his tells [making it right for me to dismiss it as 'hearsay] and I asked the question; you were not old enough [your a nineteen year old] to remember anything about Siyaads era, so how come you have so much to say about him and his government, yet when asked about the governments before him, your simple ignore the questions by saying you "weren't alive then." Does that make sense in your head, it sure doesn't to me.
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Now for some seriousness, I hope the kitchen is not too hot.
You have repeated throughout the debate that Barres long-term president, and not a "democracy," as if anyone is disagreeing with you, and I think you want to just talk about Barre's reign without us looking into the governments before him, that is why you keep mentioning that those governments were democratically elected, as if we should just leave it there.
You stated that the SSDF was an organization that wanted to rid the longterm president who harassed and oppressed the people, yet you could not mention any wrong Siyaad had done pre-78.
You stated that Barre's government was worst the one before him, yet you could not say how, you even mentioned your limited-to-zero knowledge of that time.
You stated that Barres government achieved so much, far more then any other government before him, yet he was bad for the people.
So I am asking you now, in front of every one to answer these questions:
1) How was Siyaads government worst then the sixties government? And do spare us the bull crap of them being democratically elected for I have already talked about the fairytale democracy.
2) Was the sixties government not corrupt? Was there not a political turmoil? Were we not in brink of a civil war nine years after our independence? Did Somalis not rejoice after their overthrow?
3) Explain to us how the Siyaads government was unfair and harassing the people pre-78? Explain what wrong the government has done before 78, besides preach, unity, equality, justice, and achieving the best for the county.
4) Lastly, was the SSDF not a treasonous group with a clan mentality when the rest of the nation was high on Somali unity? Are they not the blame for the downfall of Somalia?
Answer these questions!
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
mareexanku indho adaka
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Gotten to the point where your demanding answers, are we? Mate, this obfuscation is getting you nowhere in this argument. Address the issue at hand before bringing and demanding answers to questions that are largely peripheral to this 'discussion'.
How about I demand an answer to the point raised in my first post! You seem to have taken that particular liberty. Quite simple proposition, really. And I will begin working on the answers to those questions.
As for whether I am qualified to commnet, I already discussed that in detail in the last post. I reproduced it here for you convenience:
[quote="Padishah"]
You quickly pick up on my admission that I have no first hand knowledge of the two era's, and use it as an excuse to question whether I am even qualified to make my comments. Let me put you straight; my father does not answer any qabeel related questions of mine, so that is put to rest. Second, the mere fact that you are unable to address, let alone refute any of my salient posts points to the veracity and veritable arguments. Add this to the fact that all of my strongest points are related to the typical actions of a Dictatorship, and you have some very qualified, and as yet, unassailable points.
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Take heed especially of the last sentence, as it seems you revolve the strongest point of your case around doubting whether my case is irrelevant because of my age. Another tactic designed to avoid discussing the issue at hand.
How about I demand an answer to the point raised in my first post! You seem to have taken that particular liberty. Quite simple proposition, really. And I will begin working on the answers to those questions.
As for whether I am qualified to commnet, I already discussed that in detail in the last post. I reproduced it here for you convenience:
[quote="Padishah"]
You quickly pick up on my admission that I have no first hand knowledge of the two era's, and use it as an excuse to question whether I am even qualified to make my comments. Let me put you straight; my father does not answer any qabeel related questions of mine, so that is put to rest. Second, the mere fact that you are unable to address, let alone refute any of my salient posts points to the veracity and veritable arguments. Add this to the fact that all of my strongest points are related to the typical actions of a Dictatorship, and you have some very qualified, and as yet, unassailable points.
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Take heed especially of the last sentence, as it seems you revolve the strongest point of your case around doubting whether my case is irrelevant because of my age. Another tactic designed to avoid discussing the issue at hand.
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
[quote="Padishah"]Bagamundo, whatever others might say, I still think Siad Barre's rule, in a way, can be taken as a lesson for what we can achieve when we leave behind the paralysing effect of clannism in politics. These two clowns are right in their documentation of the achievemtns of Barre's regime. But it came at an unacceptable cost. As a people, we cannot return to the paralysing inefficiency and talkfest that characterised the Democratic period, nor can we accept the suppression of rights, and the monopolisation of power and authority that was the Dictatorship period.
He was good for Somalia, in that, through him, Allah was providing us with the lesson that to better ourselves, we would have to stop relying on qabeel, and begin working for the horumar of our country, the kulan and ihtiraam that our Prophet left us with in the concept of Shura, and the general concern for your neighbour as a MAN, not as a fellow Majeerteen, or Abgaal, or whatever.
Somalia now is the product of not learning that lesson, and Dawladsade and Sadeboi are right when they say that this began when Majeerteen brought qabeel back into the equation, with the SSDF. This short-sighted little venture might have been our version of Pandora opening her accursed box. But the SSDF became quite irrelevant, as I recall. I think that all the dying Majeerteen did during the dark days of 1991 in some way, made up for that very costly mistake.
Now, we have Abdullahi Yusuf. And this time, its seems Hope decided to the stay in Pandora's box.[/quote]
Sadeboi the job is complete. Watch the tone in this post and compare it to the previous ones.
Watch out for:
-Opinion against the SSDF/Majeerteens and what they led Somalia to
-Accomplishments of Mohamed Siyaad Barre
-Sharing of Blame
etc
He was never bad but the less violent ones are always more poisonous. I suppose our effort milked a good dose of poison from this one. He has been exposed to a whole different side of the history of Somalia under Maj Gen Mohammed SIyaad Barre and as a result has been shown "aabe" said does not work in the educated world. Let him contemplate more..
He was good for Somalia, in that, through him, Allah was providing us with the lesson that to better ourselves, we would have to stop relying on qabeel, and begin working for the horumar of our country, the kulan and ihtiraam that our Prophet left us with in the concept of Shura, and the general concern for your neighbour as a MAN, not as a fellow Majeerteen, or Abgaal, or whatever.
Somalia now is the product of not learning that lesson, and Dawladsade and Sadeboi are right when they say that this began when Majeerteen brought qabeel back into the equation, with the SSDF. This short-sighted little venture might have been our version of Pandora opening her accursed box. But the SSDF became quite irrelevant, as I recall. I think that all the dying Majeerteen did during the dark days of 1991 in some way, made up for that very costly mistake.
Now, we have Abdullahi Yusuf. And this time, its seems Hope decided to the stay in Pandora's box.[/quote]
Sadeboi the job is complete. Watch the tone in this post and compare it to the previous ones.
Watch out for:
-Opinion against the SSDF/Majeerteens and what they led Somalia to
-Accomplishments of Mohamed Siyaad Barre
-Sharing of Blame
etc
He was never bad but the less violent ones are always more poisonous. I suppose our effort milked a good dose of poison from this one. He has been exposed to a whole different side of the history of Somalia under Maj Gen Mohammed SIyaad Barre and as a result has been shown "aabe" said does not work in the educated world. Let him contemplate more..
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DawladSade
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
[quote="biko"]mareexanku indho adaka[/quote]
Ma wakhtiyadii Siyaad Barre inta layska caayo dadka loo dayn jiraad moodey??
Ma wakhtiyadii Siyaad Barre inta layska caayo dadka loo dayn jiraad moodey??
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
siyaad ba ma ana so hadal qaaday
indho adeega waxan uga jeeday adiga iyo sadboi so siyaad ba ma isaga picturkeyga ku jirey.
i know what your hinting but i wont go down that grave sxb. and may he rest in nabad iyo caano.
indho adeega waxan uga jeeday adiga iyo sadboi so siyaad ba ma isaga picturkeyga ku jirey.
i know what your hinting but i wont go down that grave sxb. and may he rest in nabad iyo caano.
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DawladSade
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Ok maxaad indha-adeegu ku keentay??
Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
muraankina. adiga iyo sadboi going in circle with padisha
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DawladSade
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Re: Cilmiile Karbaash’s our Isaaq Snetter in under 41 posts
Iska Jabuutiyaan baad tahaye adigu nama taqaanid, Somali way taqaan Mareexaan nalamana yaabi lahayn hadaad Soomaali ahaan lahayd...
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