Axmed Guray - What do you know about him?

[BestPlaya]

didnt u question ur whole dofar daddy and was politely asking me to teach u about ur real daddy , did u find him among the yemenis though? plz share ur latest ''daddy missing'' results.

I question and will ask the origin my founding father or even the origin of the Somali.Ancestry DNA debunks your Banu Hashim myth .You're not descendant of Arab man.Waa taad adigiyo Xplaya isugu dhacdeen beenti iyo qudhunkii aad huurinayseen .Waxaad lasoo shirtagtay Oday 180jir ayaa ciraaq ka yimid deetana banu iidoor askumay.lool.You even earned the wrath of the Buddhist gaal for exposing your ridiculous and laughable Arab story.sidoo kale,Jamacatu DNA refuted your baseless claims thanks to mudane Zumale and co. for destroying your Banu Hashim myth.Sacad Muse are not even related to Garxajis.wax waliba adigoo og ayaad hadana indha adayg iyo midgaanimo la soo taagan tahay!

I am very contented with my horn African roots.In wax lays waydiiyo ma aha caqli xumo e waxaa caaqnimo ah in been,khayaali iyo aflagaado laysku maa weeliyo .adiga iyo inta iidoorka ah ee banu haashimaysan ayaa somaali ugu aqli yar.

u r frustrated and left grasping for air, ur last attempt to steer the argument to abtiris was destroyed when i asked u to proof gerri in the book is same as gerri kombe or harti in the book is same as harti dofars not harti abgal.

Illogical midgaan.Harti abgaal is a mere sub clan compared to Harti darood and also Harti abgaal has no connection to maydh or sanaag.U can't dispute the obvious ,Marehan,Geri,Yabaree,Harti are the Darood groups who dominated Adal

with ease i debunked all ur claims, go to the begining of this thread ,see how many dofar clans u said are mentioned in the book that represent ur dofar pipe dreams, even u tried to inject ur oromo mixed blood absame and i debunked that.

You haven't debunked anything.ironically you have no answer to my simple questions

1.Banu Hashim myth is dead
2.Habar Maqdi is NOT iidoor bin Bucayr
3.you claim abtirsi is sheeko Xariir simply you don't know yet your so called documented proofs don't support your bogus claims
4.Your whole argument through out this thread is nothing but a meaningless diatribe.l see you're dealing with your inferiority complex .go and rant so that you may feel better

btw, why r u mad at ur in laws the ilkoyar ,after all ur dimwit clan have bah oromo, show some respect to your abtiyal .

Markaad wareertay baad kolba gidaar madaxa la dhacaysaa.

Do you know whole sections of sacad muse are oromo.this well documented. Besides that ,what's wrong with bah oromo.ma maqashay Bah Gaalad oo sacadiyo Muuse ah iyo bah gaalo or bagaalo oo Habaryonis ah .

Stick to the topic in hand. Car bal wakaase cadeyn conclusive ah keen(maba helayside) oo sheegaysa in Iidoor taarikh lahaa Suldaan Guleed ka hor.Marka iidoor madaxa kor u qaaday waxay ahayd 250sano ka hor.

kukuyu and xabashi slave , go and do what u know better ,make sujud to ur abtiyal the xabash and leave the noble somalis sort our their differences

Hadaba yaa doqona labadeena yaa ibn bucayr.sow ma ogid in iidoor nala dago Kenya iyo Ethiopia minority-ba haiska ahaadaane .ma istiri aflagaada iidoor waxay ka sii macno xuntahay mida hablaha yaryar.

[Adali]

this comes from faqash lover who killed culama al deen and redicule the quran,

fu*king ignoble boon, are u slow in the head as ur half cast oromo cuz the cerrtified doqon, where did i ever instulted the mujahid xirabo ben guibta ben theodoros ben adan?

infact i am doing him a big favor by returning his lost sons to his real name after they distanded themselves from his non somali origins.

embrace ur real abtiris yaa awlad al mujahid xirabu ben guibta ben theodoros ben aden

Ooops i mean ben adam not aden as aden is a pure somali pronunciation...

Well you are insulting him, Marehan is referred to as Somali which is synonymous with muslim which basically means these names are nothing more than mystery, which begs the question, why are you giggling every time you weirdo ? the Solomonic dynasty of amxaars invaded Somalis constantly and its possible they captured the Garaad as a child and force baptized his grandfather, or maybe he just gave a fake name, I have oral history of my immediate ancestors great grandfathers doing the exact same thing when dealing with foreigners, what is the point of speculating.

Also he is not the only Mujahid who has christian name, Dhaweet is Dawit christian version of Daud, why are you fixated on Garad Hiraabu, its clear bias against Marehan, you are not really doing justice to the Mujahids contribution.

boon ,

i am laughing at ur weak logic..

WTF with this crazy scenarios..!!, so u assuming the xabashi captured THE GARAD, and then his grandfather mr.adam to release his grandchild from captivity became christian and named his son to theodoros who in turn changed his own son's name to guibta so save THE GARAD XIRABU.

nice plausible scenario ,hey did u try ur luck in nollywood, nigerian equivalent to holywood .

what do u mean exactly by ur ancestors do the same to foreigners ,looks like shegato kind of work to me, do u mean that ur awowos was capturing foriegn men and making them change their names into ilko yar linage..

boon, the more u talk the more u expose urself.

just chill , get some education and courses in fadhni ku dirir then meet me again.

Yo chill I am just here to follow the debate.

This is positive discussion lets not stray from facts doe, Marehan is clearly mentioned as Somalis, Muslims, Mujahid Hiraabu plays a massive role in the Jihad, instead of fixating on his name casting doubt on the Diin of his father, grandfather and great grandfather and running around with speculations and fitna, just focus on the topic at hand, this discussion should be like the 77 war, the glory is shared by all Somalis, is it not ?

[ramzy2277]

didnt u question ur whole dofar daddy and was politely asking me to teach u about ur real daddy , did u find him among the yemenis though? plz share ur latest ''daddy missing'' results.

I question and will ask the origin my founding father or even the origin of the Somali.Ancestry DNA debunks your Banu Hashim myth .You're not descendant of Arab man.Waa taad adigiyo Xplaya isugu dhacdeen beenti iyo qudhunkii aad huurinayseen .Waxaad lasoo shirtagtay Oday 180jir ayaa ciraaq ka yimid deetana banu iidoor askumay.lool.You even earned the wrath of the Buddhist gaal for exposing your ridiculous and laughable Arab story.sidoo kale,Jamacatu DNA refuted your baseless claims thanks to mudane Zumale and co. for destroying your Banu Hashim myth.Sacad Muse are not even related to Garxajis.wax waliba adigoo og ayaad hadana indha adayg iyo midgaanimo la soo taagan tahay!

I am very contented with my horn African roots.In wax lays waydiiyo ma aha caqli xumo e waxaa caaqnimo ah in been,khayaali iyo aflagaado laysku maa weeliyo .adiga iyo inta iidoorka ah ee banu haashimaysan ayaa somaali ugu aqli yar.

u r frustrated and left grasping for air, ur last attempt to steer the argument to abtiris was destroyed when i asked u to proof gerri in the book is same as gerri kombe or harti in the book is same as harti dofars not harti abgal.

Illogical midgaan.Harti abgaal is a mere sub clan compared to Harti darood and also Harti abgaal has no connection to maydh or sanaag.U can't dispute the obvious ,Marehan,Geri,Yabaree,Harti are the Darood groups who dominated Adal

with ease i debunked all ur claims, go to the begining of this thread ,see how many dofar clans u said are mentioned in the book that represent ur dofar pipe dreams, even u tried to inject ur oromo mixed blood absame and i debunked that.

You haven't debunked anything.ironically you have no answer to my simple questions

1.Banu Hashim myth is dead
2.Habar Maqdi is NOT iidoor bin Bucayr
3.you claim abtirsi is sheeko Xariir simply you don't know yet your so called documented proofs don't support your bogus claims
4.Your whole argument through out this thread is nothing but a meaningless diatribe.l see you're dealing with your inferiority complex .go and rant so that you may feel better

btw, why r u mad at ur in laws the ilkoyar ,after all ur dimwit clan have bah oromo, show some respect to your abtiyal .

Markaad wareertay baad kolba gidaar madaxa la dhacaysaa.

Do you know whole sections of sacad muse are oromo.this well documented. Besides that ,what's wrong with bah oromo.ma maqashay Bah Gaalad oo sacadiyo Muuse ah iyo bah gaalo or bagaalo oo Habaryonis ah .

Stick to the topic in hand. Car bal wakaase cadeyn conclusive ah keen(maba helayside) oo sheegaysa in Iidoor taarikh lahaa Suldaan Guleed ka hor.Marka iidoor madaxa kor u qaaday waxay ahayd 250sano ka hor.

kukuyu and xabashi slave , go and do what u know better ,make sujud to ur abtiyal the xabash and leave the noble somalis sort our their differences

Hadaba yaa doqona labadeena yaa ibn bucayr.sow ma ogid in iidoor nala dago Kenya iyo Ethiopia minority-ba haiska ahaadaane .ma istiri aflagaada iidoor waxay ka sii macno xuntahay mida hablaha yaryar.

doqonki OO (Oromo- Ogaden ) the two adjacent O looks like mad mullah's big booty ,cajeeb.

this guy is hiting his head against all walls, i wasnt the one who questioned my own roots, u did.

i only guided u to the possibilty of finding ur true arab daddy in yemen, remember when i quote from the book of shekh isxaaq, ALLAH yerxamu, a guy whose name seemed like darood al casiiri, and u were grateful i found a link to ur missing daddy,
do u want to take a snap shot of that page and expose ur stupidity to the public.

no candhoof ina tube will ever change my belief of where my roots are, in fact this whole dna saga is nothing but a big ballon, its still in its early stages, and somalis dont have enough samples to reach any conclusion anyhow, lineage to bani hashim or quresh is new and cant go beyond 2000 years, whereas the results of the dna goes back more than 3000 years.

arabs divided into 2 major group pure arabs and the arabized ones, hashimi come from the arabized group, their father ismail ben ibrahim caleh al salam came from iraq then migrated to egppt then married to an egyptian maid, then they migrated to meca,

so if my dna shows we are from the region of egypt or upper part of the middle east then we are also close to the location where ismail came from.

resorting to dna is very early , besides i remember as well u were being karbashed by the jamacatul dna ,i wasnt interested in that debate, but surely u were on the recieiving side as usual

back to the topic,

yaa ximar ya ibno ximaar,

arent u tired of repeating the same stupid questions ,and i am the one who keep educating u with document after document and u r stuck on islaamo sheeko xarreerad..!!

harti dofar cant be in mayth while sons of shekh isaaq ,ALLAH yerxamu are alive,

it must be another harti who were r in peace with, like hawiye who are same linage of dir, it seems possible that dir and some irrir were living around mayth when the sheekh came and made it a flourished city.

there is no yabaare, i never heard of them who knows if they even dofar?, the name seems more like yibir, why u hate ur new in laws, didnt ina iley tide the knot between u two both?


simply u r a low iq oromo-ogaden combo mix,

what advangtage would be gained by knowing the isaaq sultan?!!....i more than once showed u an authentic document before the imam ahmed al gazi was even born, showing sons of shekh isxaaq allah yerxamu, taking leading role in the jihad against protugeese and xabasha during sheekh abadir time in harar.

why u keep overlooking these simple facts and got stuck on trivial non authentic somali nomads arguments about abtirisn, ur people are full of shegato....u urself is a living proof of that, u were looking for another convincing daddy other than jabarti, didnt you?

u cant proof ahmed al gazi is merexan.
u cant proof shekh abadir is marexan
u cant proof nur mujahid is marexaan
u cant proof gerri is gerrif kombe
u cant proof harti are harti dofar not harti abgal.
u cant proof yabare are dofar and not yibir instead
u cant proof absame nur is dofar ogaden


that is why ur wholre arguemnt is based on raising doubts about other somali clans as well.

simply u nothing but true dump and xasid with fabricated kacan bed time stories about ,we were kingz yaa shegato iben shegato.

[Khalid Ali]

Darood nassabnimo ku faaanaya hooyadini doombiro dhiilada ahayd siiilkeedi dib ugu noqda nacdal nijaas hadana midgaan iyo qudhun bay guursadeen

[BestPlaya]

Ramzy ibn Bucayr is triggered lool

Jibriil Abokor are a mix of Jaarso and aksho.well known fact.Marka yaad oromo kucaayeysaa yaa ibn bucayr mise oromo ma caybaa.cajiib.caqli iidoor waa caqli foorara.

Obvious facts
-Iidoor are amalgamation of bucayrians and oromo esp akichu and jaarso.
-Iidoor has no history before their white daddies came
-Habar makida is not the ibn bucayr Habar magaadle
-U can't simply trace the clan and the sub clan of your Adal heros simply bcoz they were never iidoor
-The whole Somali know Adal history was Somali history though Darood dominated it.


If you go back and re-read the part where l exchanged replies with Zumale you will see how we teamed up to destroy deluded iidoors I was basically setting the trap and Zumale did what he does best.He eventually destroyed xplaya and all other bucayr aran lovers .


Sacad Muuse person accusing other with oromo is the biggest joke of the day.Oromo foqal Oromo

Jialah ,Rambad,Sambuuru,Garxajis, don't share Y DNA let one a hashemite grand father.

Btw ,how old was the alleged sh Iidoor when he arrived at the Somali coast

[Adali]

Ramzy ibn Bucayr is triggered lool

Jibriil Abokor are a mix of Jaarso and aksho.well known fact.Marka yaad oromo kucaayeysaa yaa ibn bucayr mise oromo ma caybaa.cajiib.caqli iidoor waa caqli foorara.

Obvious facts
-Iidoor are amalgamation of bucayrians and oromo esp akichu and jaarso.
-Iidoor has no history before their white daddies came
-Habar makida is not the ibn bucayr Habar magaadle
-U can't simply trace the clan and the sub clan of your Adal heros simply bcoz they were never iidoor
-The whole Somali know Adal history was Somali history though Darood dominated it.


If you go back and re-read the part where l exchanged replies with Zumale you will see how we teamed up to destroy deluded iidoors I was basically setting the trap and Zumale did what he does best.He eventually destroyed xplaya and all other bucayr aran lovers .


Sacad Muuse person accusing other with oromo is the biggest joke of the day.Oromo foqal Oromo

Jialah ,Rambad,Sambuuru,Garxajis, don't share Y DNA let one a hashemite grand father.

Btw ,how old was the alleged sh Iidoor when he arrived at the Somali coast

He was apparently a Mujahid of fighting age taking part in the Jihad a few years prior to Ahmed gurey, but he was also simultaneously an Old Hashimite man, while at the same time being the father of multiple generation clan called Habar Magaadle and another secrete wife in Harar forming the Habar Xabuushed.
He must have had in his possession a time machine of some sort

[ramzy2277]

doqon OO,

u keep losing in every argument.

no matter how to derail each topic.

u cant proof any of ur claims.

u trying to create virtual reality and living the dream as facts.

just becuz u keep repeating ur sore dream wont make it facts.

not a single document u brought to support any of ur claims.

ur people r nothing but shegato who got exposed by the origina book of futux al xabaash,

xirabo ben gubta ben theodorox ben adam that is the fact.

habar magaadle fought two wars once with imam ahmed al gazi and with sheikh abadir.

keep jumping from topic to topic to hide ur failure.

shekh isaaq ALLAH yerxamu age is not a deal breaker, at least we have authentic boon signed by ahlu bayt of yemen to certifiy his nasab and nasab of his sons.

what u have about jabarti history.

in this very thread u denied he is the founder of dofar, and suggested different person and u THANKED ME for finding u new daddy.

oromo are not bad but we talking about true and authentic linage yaa dofar X ..

[Khalid Ali]

It's still a mystery why the daroods in the Abyssinian conquest have a pure Amhara church name goita theodorus hiiraabo. And dawit are darood semi Abyssinian were they orthodox Christians. Darod dohave galla names in their lineage takalwaaq cabuudwaaq siwaaqroon jidwaaq. They don't deny.having a shared ancestry with the gala madow. So the alkhadams are indeed the mahra yemeni ground sweepers from hadramout. Mixed with gallas and orthodox Christians and recently they started intermarriage with m idgaans have begone darood is of an ignoble ancestry pure filth pure nijaasnimo and waseeyshinimo iyo weledxaramnimo. Daroodka gacmayare weydi I know these cali beysteyns very well wa dad been kunool

[ZubeirAwal]

Ramzy2277 systematically destroyed the fairytales people have held to especially after they were made to be facts during the kafir regime of barre.

Ramzy2277, I think we should embark on a project to translate this book into somali, I have the connections to publishing houses sxb, since you are fluent in Arabic.

[metamorphosis]

Typical braindead zombies, a curious topic/subject descends into a shitshow.

[balwarama]

Who wrote the book Iidoor claim to proof their Banu Hashim connections? When was it written? How long was it since the Disappearance of the clan founder, if it was after his disappearance? Who authenticated and how?

We have had contacts with the Gallas since time immemorial? Majority of the land we inhabit we conquered from the Gallas. Almost 80% of the Daarood territories up to Tana river was a Galla land that we conquered. We Somalised, Islamized great number of them and today some of them claim to be Dir like the Warday! They are bound to have an influence on us. We have be around each other for so long and married from them occasionally!

Our ancestors considered the Iidoor part of the Dir also our ancestors used to hold the Iidoor in so much contempt and they never protested until now, so what is new?!

Is the so called Somaliland project that they dominated for so long because of the dysfunctional politics in the rest of Somalia making them feel invisible?

[balwarama]

We gave them many condescending names like Dabacayuun, Iidoor, Kabadhe Iidoor! Why are the Iidoors today beating their chests and acting like they can challenge Daarood.

They are running away from Somalia because of Daarood and now they acting like they can talk to us as equals. Cajiib

[Khalid Ali]

First of all your darood alkhadam your ancestor the one buited in zubaid yemen died in 1404. Most darood existed way before that.. isaaaq lineage isvery clear sheikh isxaaq burial site Is in maidh for over 800 years. Muse carre is the custodian of the holy mosque and shrine a Yemeni Sharif wrote about sheikh isxaaq called Sharif Hassan al gherbaani. He talks about yaxya al suufi one of sheikh isxaaq ancestors. We have Hassan al absri his book written by a Syrian. About sheikh isxaaq genealogy his history his salwaat his journey. Sheikh isxaaq him self write 4 books. And ofcouese a Yemeni sancaawi Sharif who was the mayor of Mogadishu talks about isaaq in his book. Sharif balcaawi.

We have lived in Somaliland for 1000s of years. We own the land you tried to fight us using the somali military. You failed you tried religious extremism Sayid siigeyste we rejected him. You tried everything and Allah has made you the servants of tigre for the past 140years

[Khalid Ali]

We gave them many condescending names like Dabacayuun, Iidoor, Kabadhe Iidoor! Why are the Iidoors today beating their chests and acting like they can challenge Daarood.

They are running away from Somalia because of Daarood and now they acting like they can talk to us as equals. Cajiib

Darood has been defeated in 1991. Darood are reduced to beg hawiye. The qurjiles and wasakhgali are our cocubines. All darood face towards Mogadishu as if it's xaramki your ogaden are kept in power in kismayo because you give blow jobs to kikuyu military personal.

Punaniland is broke and galmudug is on the rise. There is no jabartis left they are dead and in a destitute positions Somalia will always be dominated by hawiye and digil mirifle. You can sell your girls to hawiye like you did to adan cadde ilma muuse mataan. You have no cities no man power and you have no money

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

We gave them many condescending names like Dabacayuun, Iidoor, Kabadhe Iidoor! Why are the Iidoors today beating their chests and acting like they can challenge Daarood.

They are running away from Somalia because of Daarood and now they acting like they can talk to us as equals. Cajiib

Lol magaca Idoor comes from when cagdheer were selling their daughters to Nuux Ismaaciil merchants in exchange for a bag of dates and cotton shiid ah. Don't get uppity little cagdheer nigger. Idoor is like the word cracker, it comes from a time when we owned you like xoolo.