Axmed Guray - What do you know about him?

[balwarama]

Those poor folks were called Kabadhe Iidoor, which means the noun after the adjective already existed, miskeen! Those Kabadhes were held in so much contempt because they didn't own any geel. You may have heard the line by Cabdi Gahaydh " Aakhiro nimaan geel lahayn lama amaanayne!

You was nobody back then if you owned no geel and nobody was gonna give you their daughter's hand for marriage!

[Khalid Ali]

Remember the kabadhe iidoor guy who went to deep inside ogaden territory with .ogaden and he found an ogaden girlfriend. The girl said to him are you idoor. He said yes. He started farafareysing her and she said iidoorku me dhalan. He said than to her iidoorku me dhalan kabadhe oodhani me dhalo. Eeh sacfaruuska isii calakuli dalaq buu yidhi. Wuu galay digdem digdem. Next morning she left her tent went to her dad's house and She asked her dad aabo kabadhe iidooor ma dhala. Agga hada kuwisa yaryar yaa dhala. Lool..

[balwarama]

Remember the kabadhe iidoor guy who went to deep inside ogaden territory with .ogaden and he found an ogaden girlfriend. The girl said to him are you idoor. He said yes. He started farafareysing her and she said iidoorku me dhalan. He said than to her iidoorku me dhalan kabadhe oodhani me dhalo. Eeh sacfaruuska isii calakuli dalaq buu yidhi. Wuu galay digdem digdem. Next morning she left her tent went to her dad's house and She asked her dad aabo kabadhe iidooor ma dhala. Agga hada kuwisa yaryar yaa dhala. Lool..

Old man Khalid is funny. Aabo kabadhe Iidoor muu dhalaa kulahaa hhhhhhhhh. Oo haddaa kuwiisa yar yar yaa dhala hhhh. Kabadhaha yar yar. Listening on that reer baadiye father and his equally reer baadiye daughter would have been real fun.

Barina kuwa Ogaadeena oo geel baadi ah raadinaya baa caruur kusoo baxay. Caruurtii bay toydeen, qoloma tihiin. Markaas bay ku yidhaahdeen Iidoor. Iidoorku barigaa Iidoornimada ma diidi jirin hadda unbay kibreene.

Kolkaasuu kuwii ka dambeeyey uyeedhay. Waryaadha kaalaya kaalaya, Iidoor dhal ah baan arkayee

[Ben Dover]

didnt u question ur whole dofar daddy and was politely asking me to teach u about ur real daddy , did u find him among the yemenis though? plz share ur latest ''daddy missing'' results.

I question and will ask the origin my founding father or even the origin of the Somali.Ancestry DNA debunks your Banu Hashim myth .You're not descendant of Arab man.Waa taad adigiyo Xplaya isugu dhacdeen beenti iyo qudhunkii aad huurinayseen .Waxaad lasoo shirtagtay Oday 180jir ayaa ciraaq ka yimid deetana banu iidoor askumay.lool.You even earned the wrath of the Buddhist gaal for exposing your ridiculous and laughable Arab story.sidoo kale,Jamacatu DNA refuted your baseless claims thanks to mudane Zumale and co. for destroying your Banu Hashim myth.Sacad Muse are not even related to Garxajis.wax waliba adigoo og ayaad hadana indha adayg iyo midgaanimo la soo taagan tahay!

I am very contented with my horn African roots.In wax lays waydiiyo ma aha caqli xumo e waxaa caaqnimo ah in been,khayaali iyo aflagaado laysku maa weeliyo .adiga iyo inta iidoorka ah ee banu haashimaysan ayaa somaali ugu aqli yar.

u r frustrated and left grasping for air, ur last attempt to steer the argument to abtiris was destroyed when i asked u to proof gerri in the book is same as gerri kombe or harti in the book is same as harti dofars not harti abgal.

Illogical midgaan.Harti abgaal is a mere sub clan compared to Harti darood and also Harti abgaal has no connection to maydh or sanaag.U can't dispute the obvious ,Marehan,Geri,Yabaree,Harti are the Darood groups who dominated Adal

with ease i debunked all ur claims, go to the begining of this thread ,see how many dofar clans u said are mentioned in the book that represent ur dofar pipe dreams, even u tried to inject ur oromo mixed blood absame and i debunked that.

You haven't debunked anything.ironically you have no answer to my simple questions

1.Banu Hashim myth is dead
2.Habar Maqdi is NOT iidoor bin Bucayr
3.you claim abtirsi is sheeko Xariir simply you don't know yet your so called documented proofs don't support your bogus claims
4.Your whole argument through out this thread is nothing but a meaningless diatribe.l see you're dealing with your inferiority complex .go and rant so that you may feel better

btw, why r u mad at ur in laws the ilkoyar ,after all ur dimwit clan have bah oromo, show some respect to your abtiyal .

Markaad wareertay baad kolba gidaar madaxa la dhacaysaa.

Do you know whole sections of sacad muse are oromo.this well documented. Besides that ,what's wrong with bah oromo.ma maqashay Bah Gaalad oo sacadiyo Muuse ah iyo bah gaalo or bagaalo oo Habaryonis ah .

Stick to the topic in hand. Car bal wakaase cadeyn conclusive ah keen(maba helayside) oo sheegaysa in Iidoor taarikh lahaa Suldaan Guleed ka hor.Marka iidoor madaxa kor u qaaday waxay ahayd 250sano ka hor.

kukuyu and xabashi slave , go and do what u know better ,make sujud to ur abtiyal the xabash and leave the noble somalis sort our their differences

Hadaba yaa doqona labadeena yaa ibn bucayr.sow ma ogid in iidoor nala dago Kenya iyo Ethiopia minority-ba haiska ahaadaane .ma istiri aflagaada iidoor waxay ka sii macno xuntahay mida hablaha yaryar.

doqonki OO (Oromo- Ogaden ) the two adjacent O looks like mad mullah's big booty ,cajeeb.

this guy is hiting his head against all walls, i wasnt the one who questioned my own roots, u did.

i only guided u to the possibilty of finding ur true arab daddy in yemen, remember when i quote from the book of shekh isxaaq, ALLAH yerxamu, a guy whose name seemed like darood al casiiri, and u were grateful i found a link to ur missing daddy,
do u want to take a snap shot of that page and expose ur stupidity to the public.

no candhoof ina tube will ever change my belief of where my roots are, in fact this whole dna saga is nothing but a big ballon, its still in its early stages, and somalis dont have enough samples to reach any conclusion anyhow, lineage to bani hashim or quresh is new and cant go beyond 2000 years, whereas the results of the dna goes back more than 3000 years.

arabs divided into 2 major group pure arabs and the arabized ones, hashimi come from the arabized group, their father ismail ben ibrahim caleh al salam came from iraq then migrated to egppt then married to an egyptian maid, then they migrated to meca,

so if my dna shows we are from the region of egypt or upper part of the middle east then we are also close to the location where ismail came from.

resorting to dna is very early , besides i remember as well u were being karbashed by the jamacatul dna ,i wasnt interested in that debate, but surely u were on the recieiving side as usual

back to the topic,

yaa ximar ya ibno ximaar,

arent u tired of repeating the same stupid questions ,and i am the one who keep educating u with document after document and u r stuck on islaamo sheeko xarreerad..!!

harti dofar cant be in mayth while sons of shekh isaaq ,ALLAH yerxamu are alive,

it must be another harti who were r in peace with, like hawiye who are same linage of dir, it seems possible that dir and some irrir were living around mayth when the sheekh came and made it a flourished city.

there is no yabaare, i never heard of them who knows if they even dofar?, the name seems more like yibir, why u hate ur new in laws, didnt ina iley tide the knot between u two both?


simply u r a low iq oromo-ogaden combo mix,

what advangtage would be gained by knowing the isaaq sultan?!!....i more than once showed u an authentic document before the imam ahmed al gazi was even born, showing sons of shekh isxaaq allah yerxamu, taking leading role in the jihad against protugeese and xabasha during sheekh abadir time in harar.

why u keep overlooking these simple facts and got stuck on trivial non authentic somali nomads arguments about abtirisn, ur people are full of shegato....u urself is a living proof of that, u were looking for another convincing daddy other than jabarti, didnt you?

u cant proof ahmed al gazi is merexan.
u cant proof shekh abadir is marexan
u cant proof nur mujahid is marexaan
u cant proof gerri is gerrif kombe
u cant proof harti are harti dofar not harti abgal.
u cant proof yabare are dofar and not yibir instead
u cant proof absame nur is dofar ogaden


that is why ur wholre arguemnt is based on raising doubts about other somali clans as well.

simply u nothing but true dump and xasid with fabricated kacan bed time stories about ,we were kingz yaa shegato iben shegato.

God damn Ramzy is brutal

[ZubeirAwal]

Since we successfully established that Imam Axmed Gurey Xuseen was Habar Magaadle, which of the following could he have possibly be?
Zubeir awal
Arap
Ayub
Cidagalle
Habr Yonis?

I'd like to think he was HA

[Ben Dover]

Since we successfully established that Imam Axmed Gurey Xuseen was Habar Magaadle, which of the following could he have possibly be?
Zubeir awal
Arap
Ayub
Cidagalle
Habr Yonis?

I'd like to think he was HA

We have no sources on which subclan of Habar Magaadle he belonged to, so have no way of pinpointing his exact family.

Remember the difference between us and doofaars is that we adhere to academic sources, no fantasies or made up BS, and unfortunately the sources only stop at Ahmed Gurey being of the Habar Magaadle Isaaq.

[ZubeirAwal]

Since we successfully established that Imam Axmed Gurey Xuseen was Habar Magaadle, which of the following could he have possibly be?
Zubeir awal
Arap
Ayub
Cidagalle
Habr Yonis?

I'd like to think he was HA

We have no sources on which subclan of Habar Magaadle he was.

I know akhi I'm pulling the legs of the history fabricators

[Ben Dover]

I know akhi I'm pulling the legs of the history fabricators

They are desperate. Imagine the same people whose leader was called Xiraabu Goita Theodorous having the cheek to claim Ahmed Gurey

Absolutely no xishood.

[balwarama]

If you had such a figure or any important role in that holy and gigantic campaign by Somali standards, don't you think it would have been mentioned in ur history. Such sheeko would have passed down from generation to generation. Even at least a hint of it. There is none in ur oral history. None of ur poets have mentioned it. Knowing Somalis and how they like to brag and exaggerate things, I find it perplexing there is no mention of it!


One thing is clear thou both from oral history and early 19th century European explore's dairies.

The Iidoor was comparable to midgo and were held in so much contempt by all their neighboring Darod clans.

Marehan were clearly mentioned and their over sized role was also established compared to other fellow Somali and horner clans in the Futuh al Xabasha.

There is also a Marehan ancertor named Hirabu.

This goita thing could be a typo or a title or something that needs to be researched further. Who cares. Marehan were mentioned, most of their ancestors were named in book and that's all that matters.

And your DNA also as a clan doesn't match. You people are certainly an amalgamation of Midgo, Gallas, later day Indians, some Arabs may be even Persians. You are collection of people that arrived at the Somali coast under different circumstances and times

[Ben Dover]

Marrhan were clearly mentioned and their over sized role was also established compared to other fellow Somali and horner clans in the Futuh al Xabasha.

There is also a Marehan ancertor named Hirabu.

This goita thing could be a typo or a title or something that needs to researched further. Who cares. Marehan were mentioned, most of their ancestors were mentioned

The boon marehan were mention, but in what context?

They were the only, I repeat, the only Somali clan to refuse to answer the Imam's call for jihad.

When they were no show, the Imam descended upon them with his soldiers, they started making up all kinds of excuses. The funniest was their leader Xiraabu Goita Theodorous claiming that they did not answer the call for jihad on grounds of his "poverty stricken state", wuu calaacaley

The boon marehan are described in the original sources as "people of the bow", i.e. archers like their boni ancestors and the midgans. They were also described in the original Arabic as "lagging" and "wavering".

And their leader Xiraabu Goita Theodorous is introduced as a recent convert to Islam. He is described as a traitorou creatures, a swindler and double-dealer. Not trust worthy at all. He actually foreshadowed the shameful fleeing of Afweyne when Xiraabu Goita Theodorous fled his country in fear of punishment of the Imam when he killed a boy. He also foreshadowed Afweyne becoming a refugee when Xiraabu Goita Theodorous himself became a refugee in Hawiye land

BTW, the only person named as a boon marehan in the original Arabic is Xiraabu Goita Theodorous, no one else!

That is terrible history mate.

[ZubeirAwal]

Xiraabu reminds me of Abdullah ibn ubayy ibn salool the leader of the munafiqeen, when nebiga and asxaabta went out to confront the meccans ina Ubey told his part of the army "we'll never win" and he marched back, the prophet looked at him with contempt and disappointment, and the sahaba went after him after the battle kkkkkkkkkk

[Ben Dover]

Xiraabu reminds me of Abdullah ibn ubayy ibn salool the leader of the munafiqeen, when nebiga and asxaabta went out to confront the meccans ina Ubey told his part of the army "we'll never win" and he marched back, the prophet looked at him with contempt and disappointment, and the sahaba went after him after the battle kkkkkkkkkk

That is a great parallel, because Xiraabu Goita Theodorous marched back as well. And just like ibn Salool was cursed by the prophet, Xiraabu Goita Theodorous was cursed by Imam Ahmed in the original Arabic source.

[balwarama]

You bitches are late. Later day qabilist motherfukers!
Haters are gonna hate. Daarood is the natural ruler of the Somali peninsula and its inhabitants.

We are not gonna compromise on a single inch of the land as well as our subjects.
You folks can rebel from time to time but we will put you back in the constitutionall order by hook or crook

[Typhoon]

reer gadid habar awal, reer mataan ciedagale, reer nuur gedobirsi and masaame cisse are brothers (maamasame ba owoow u ah labada kale)

guess what they all have in common? did they not fight against snm...ding dong!

why do marexaan always go to ciedagele xafaad in hargeisa
abdi warabe

ciyaal ba tahin somali ma taqanin.

hajji goita Theodorous if you notice he has characteristics of barre hiiraale(khalid ali remembers the double dealing of barre and his constant run around in kismaayo)

we are the only somali clan that have a claim on the ethiopian solomonic throne, thats why ethiopians always arm the marexaan, just look at history

[ZubeirAwal]

Gadiid yunus nuux ismaacil lived during the 1500s-1600s he probably was a Mujahid that was so great the Marehan claimed his name.