Axmed Guray - What do you know about him?

[Adali]

Ogaden are recent arrivals in the far west of the Somaliland. Besides are you saying this Abtirsi is made up? If so who do you think decided to forge it? When do you think it could have happened? Why do you think there was no mention of it in the oral history of the Somalis? When was the first mentioning of Dhulbahante, Majertein? When is the first mention of Bah Ogaadeen in the neighboring Somali Qabiils? The name Ogaden, I believe is a collective name of the Qabiil and not the founder of the Qabiil! The same goes for Dhulbahante and Iidoor

Do you mean the far west (Jijiga and Harar regions ) of Somali lands ? Then, you're right .Ogaden are newcomers in Jigjiga while Jidwaaqs and Geri-galbeed have been living there even before Axmad Gurey.Ogaden.Qoraxay and Doolo are the epicenters of Ogaden territories. Then OG expanded into different regions

Ogaden was a real person .the youngest of the four Absames.

You should not take this boon Marehan serious. His grandfathers perhaps recall how Ugaas Nuur Cubudiye Ogaden forces tamed his ilkayars in dhuuso Mareb .

Ogden is a confederacy consisting largely of Galla, Bastard Xabashi, Boons, and a healthy dose of Nasab Somalis from various clans. The confederacy was created by Majerten who added them to the Kablalax confederacy.

You are my adopted family I respect you lot, but know your true history. There was a large Xabashi army fighting against us in Walwal, their bastard offspring roam from Wardheer to Qabri Dahar.

You were always allied to Xabasha, you never took part in the Adal wars against the gaalo, don't claim Gerri history my nigga, your Ogden people are not mentioned at all, you can claim you were part of some Gerri chiefs army or what ever.

Also the Jidwaaq themselves don't want you in Jigjiga they actually plotting against Iley as we speak.

Among the Ogden confederacy I like the Bah Gerri and Makaahil they are my neighbors after all.

[balwarama]

Are you saying the savage nomads were so efficient in keeping such a secret for so long?

[Adali]

Are you saying the savage nomads were so efficient in keeping such a secret for so long?

Nah I am just kidding mate, your abtirsi is yours believe in it to whatever extend you like.

Just know that some people have reason to be sceptical of their Abtirsi, that includes Sacad Muse and Majerten, they had interaction with the British and I think that something similar to Lawrence of Arabia happened to these poor fools.

[BestPlaya]

Some clans are nothing more than an alliance .For instance, Iidoor ,Hawiye,Raxaweyn and Gadabursi.

Iidoor -Jaamacatu DNA proved iidoor to be a Confederacy

Hawiye - It basically means Huwan or gaashanbur.It is more of dhaqan even though some septs like hiraab can trace their abtirsi back to Hawiye.

Raxaweyn -obviously Confederacy

Gadabursi - samaron and soo raac

Marehan - a Confederacy of dhalad and midgo(Boon Marehan)

Other Darood groups have authentic abtirsi .each generation of the abtirsi,a sept joins.this well known fact .However, Ogaden and Harti have sheegad or some groups who are allied with them.No clan is pure dhalad.


Boon Adali ,Marehan is indeed a Confederacy of Daarood Nasab and Boon Midgaan.

[Adali]

Some clans are nothing more than an alliance .For instance, Iidoor ,Hawiye,Raxaweyn and Gadabursi.

Iidoor -Jaamacatu DNA proved iidoor to be a Confederacy

Hawiye - It basically means Huwan or gaashanbur.It is more of dhaqan even though some septs like hiraab can trace their abtirsi back to Hawiye.

Raxaweyn -obviously Confederacy

Gadabursi - samaron and soo raac

Marehan - a Confederacy of dhalad and midgo(Boon Marehan)

Other Darood groups have authentic abtirsi .each generation of the abtirsi,a sept joins.this well known fact .However, Ogaden and Harti have sheegad or some groups who are allied with them.No clan is pure dhalad.


Boon Adali ,Marehan is indeed a Confederacy of Daarood Nasab and Boon Midgaan.

\best playa your are Rer Ugaas even you know Ogaden is a confederacy, there is no shame in admitting it without projecting that onto me.

Marehan is Marehan and have been so for 750 years

[balwarama]

Are you saying the savage nomads were so efficient in keeping such a secret for so long?

Nah I am just kidding mate, your abtirsi is yours believe in it to whatever extend you like.

Just know that some people have reason to be sceptical of their Abtirsi, that includes Sacad Muse and Majerten, they had interaction with the British and I think that something similar to Lawrence of Arabia happened to these poor fools.

What else did Lawrence do to the also savage desert dwelling Arabs, except enticing them to revolt against the only Moslem empire at the time?

[Adali]

Are you saying the savage nomads were so efficient in keeping such a secret for so long?

Nah I am just kidding mate, your abtirsi is yours believe in it to whatever extend you like.

Just know that some people have reason to be sceptical of their Abtirsi, that includes Sacad Muse and Majerten, they had interaction with the British and I think that something similar to Lawrence of Arabia happened to these poor fools.

What else did Lawrence do to the also savage desert dwelling Arabs, except enticing them to revolt against the only Moslem empire at the time?

Read his books, he managed to play with arab emotions not only to stage revolts, but he build fake clans and made allegiances between these fake clans to fight who ever didn't fall inline with British foreign interest in the region, these allegiances were later pushed towards separate distinct nations, the borders are not arbitrary but based on British imperialist agendas, the exact same thing happened in Somalia. Most of these people, their ancestors were played with like kids, their ego, emotions, greed, envy, myths etc were used to form obedient and controllable groups to form an efficient colony for the british. Most of these explorers/anthropologist were paid agents working in the intelligence gathering for the sole purpose of military use, propaganda and strategic planning before, during and post colonization.

Alas not all Somalis are stupid, Marehan as well as other clans just killed these agents and their groupies, their response was to call us every name under the book and turn other clans against us.

[BestPlaya]

Some clans are nothing more than an alliance .For instance, Iidoor ,Hawiye,Raxaweyn and Gadabursi.

Iidoor -Jaamacatu DNA proved iidoor to be a Confederacy

Hawiye - It basically means Huwan or gaashanbur.It is more of dhaqan even though some septs like hiraab can trace their abtirsi back to Hawiye.

Raxaweyn -obviously Confederacy

Gadabursi - samaron and soo raac

Marehan - a Confederacy of dhalad and midgo(Boon Marehan)

Other Darood groups have authentic abtirsi .each generation of the abtirsi,a sept joins.this well known fact .However, Ogaden and Harti have sheegad or some groups who are allied with them.No clan is pure dhalad.


Boon Adali ,Marehan is indeed a Confederacy of Daarood Nasab and Boon Midgaan.

\best playa your are Rer Ugaas even you know Ogaden is a confederacy, there is no shame in admitting it without projecting that onto me.

Marehan is Marehan and have been so for 750 years

Confederacy waxaa weyaan qabiilo waaweyn oo dhalasho wadaagin hadana Ku midoobay dhaqan iyo siyaasad.Sheegad waa qoys ama jilib isaga dhex nool qabiil weyn isla markaana la dhiig baxa qoloda ay sheegtaan.

I know your trolling but let me remind you Ogaden was Ogaden since the beginning of time.It consist of five major clans who are all dhalad though each clan may have families who joined the tribe through alliance.

-M.Subeer
-Cawlyahan
-Talamooge
-Maqaabul
-Bah Gari

Meanwhile ,Marehan is a confederacy of Darood clans and outcasts.

[9kaSamaale]

Do you know his clan?


Axmed guray Badhgooyee
La dhigay goodir dhiniciisa
Hadday guuto igu soo
baxshen Wa Gallad ilaahe

Golyeey maalintiaan idhi
dalkii inay gashaan shegtay
Gurey maalintaan dilay
colkood inuu go'aan shegtay
geerarshe dheer iyo
dagaal waran galaan sheegtay
gacaniyo in geed laga hadliyo
gobbanimaan shegtay!...

Masii wadaa?

War!! Ciyaalkan yaa ummadda ka qabto. This poem has nothing to do with the event you guys are relating to.
It recited by Wiilwaal and the Gurey in the poem is GAAL GUREY of Jaarso tribe
..... It starts with ....
Ogaaden galduur iyo markuu webi ka soo gaasay.

As Ogaaden came to his rescue.go back and do research.

[KingMX]

Ahmed Gurey was an Isaaq man, many people confuse him with Imam Ahmed Al Ghazi, but they are two separate people. His name was Ahmed Xuseen Al Somali, nickname being Axmed Gurey. The Arab chronicles made it clear that there were two historical characters, both named Ahmed, one named Ghazi whilst the other who was of the Habar Magadle Isaaq was called Axmed Gurey.

Yes he was isaaq even Ethiopians know him very well. Itoobiyaanka wadnuhuu u galay, read this funny recent comment from youtube.