Imam Ahmed Gurey's clan is finally solved.

[Voltage]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"] KEEP UR HISTORY AND WE SHALL KEEP OURS, CAUSE U WONT BE CONVINCING [/quote]

See this is the thing KA, there is no "your" history and "my" history, there is only history. It is laughable and quite hilarious that you have consistently told people to "research" the meaning of "Gedabursi" or other things of no importance while at the same time flicking off impartial, and objective history presented TO you from outsiders who have no bias between Somali clans.

You have not presented anything, yet tell people to research and at the same time do not accept research shown to you. What are we to make of you but a sulky little who does not want anything that conflicts with what grandma told him?

You have attempted to say Siad Barre paid to have this written when majority of these manuscripts and documents were written prior to even Siad's birth. You also hold on to unimportant notion of "no Darod was born in present-day Awdal" when again maps and other pieces of history were provided to you showing that infact present-day Awdal (a region made by Siad Barre) was only a part of the historical Adal and not it itself. Infact, Harrar is the center of Ahmed Gurey's campaigns, the area he reigned from, and the center of the Adal sultanate ever since its earlier destruction during the reign of Sa'ad Ad-Diin during the 1300's. Ahmed Gurey was not from present-day Awdal and had nothing to do with it, he was a man who was in Harrar and ruled from Harrar, as did his nephew and successor Imam Nuur.

Now again, Imam Nuur was just as illustrious as the Ahmed Gurey, did everything he did including capture and behead the Ethiopian emporer who killed Ahmed Gurey. He is proven to be Marehan, a nephew of the Imam, and the man who inherited the Imam's wife. In all Eastern societies, the only man who can inherit the wife (Dumaal is the Somali term) is the closest relative to the deceased husband who shares the same lineage as him (ina adeer). No concept exists of a man inheriting his Abti's wife, which strictly means Imam Nuur as a nephew of the Imam is the son of the Imam's brother or cousin who shared the same lineage as him. This means since Emir Nuur is proven to be Mareexaan, then Imam Ahmed Gurey, who is the same clan as the inheritor, is Mareexaan. This is the Islamic and Somali/Eastern practice. This is something you can check out with your family.

This in conjunction with the importance of Mareexaan in the Imam's campaign as is apparent even in the Futaxa Al Habesha is more then proof enough of the imam's lineage. However, this is not to say only Mareexaan participated in the campaign, as the Geri Koombe, Harti, Habar Magaadle, and many Somali/Muslims were part of the campaign.

This is about as much as I will say to you now and I would hope you do not respond back with your earlier juvenile responses declaring to us all your age and the level of your maturity.

[djibsomali]

what are trying to say in short?

imam ahmed gurey is from gedo? marehan near kenya border?

ok we settle now!
imam ahmed is from near the kenyan border
and we will take siad bareh and says he is from gabiley in somaliland from habar awal.


ok we accept this fact

[Voltage]

[quote="Warsame101"]A couple of notes. The Ifat sultanate was absorbed by the Adal Kingdom in the last quarter of the14th century. I have read somewhere earlier that someone claimed that Amir Nuur's jurisdiction was only confined to the capital city of the Harar Kingdom. This is completely false. Amir Nuur inherited the title and the kingdom from his uncle so it is incorrect to say that he only ruled the capital city and not the kingdom. Moreover, the centre of the Adal Kingdom was Harar and during that time, Harar was exchangeable with Adal.

Here is a map showing the Adal Kingdom. I have used a 18th century Map since I couldn't find a 16th century one:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... ingNur.jpg

Secondly, the Christian Ethiopian Empire felt threathened by both these Imams that they developed a syndrome, refered to as the 'Gran syndrome'.

Ulrich Braukamper writes in Islamic History and Culture in Southern Ethiopia:

"The [holy war] (Jihad) which the leaders of the Muslim Adal federation, Ahmad Gran and Nur ibn Mujahid, waged against the Christian Habasa highlanders in the 16th century, threatened the very existence of the Ethiopian Empire."

Thirdly there is a reason why Amir Nuur suceeded his uncle.

Bethwell A. Ogot mentions the Amir's qualities that enabled the succession in 'Africa from the Sixteenth to the Eighteenth Century':

"Under the leadership of the Amir Nur ibn Mujahid, the brave and political gifted successor to Ahmad Gran, theAdal-Harar Muslims once more attempted to confront the Christian Empire."

Fourthly, King-of-Awdal, kiddo as I have already mentioned to you in the past, stop confusing the Awdal region with Adal Kingdom. Gadabursi were never part of the Imam's army nor are they mentioned in the Futuh al-Habasha so what makes you think that the Imam was miracously a Gadabursi?

Lastly, whilst Imam Ahmad Gurey and Imam Nuur ibn Mujahid are refered to as the First and Second Conquerer respectively, Imam Nuur has similiar achievements that puts him in parallel with his uncle.

Imam Ahmad Gurey ruled the Adal Kingdom for 16 years, Imam Nuur ruled it for 18 years. Imam Ahmad invaded the Christian Ethiopian Empire, ransacked it,expanded the Adal Kingdom and brought Islam to its inhabitants. Imam Nuur invaded Ethiopia, killed the Ethiopian Emperor who martyred Imam Ahmad, brought Islam to its inhabitants and was behind the modernsation and furhter expansion of the Adal Kingdom. This is why Imam Nuur is refered as the Patron of Harar.[/quote]


Wonderful stuff Warsame. I have no idea why everyone seems to forget Imam Nuur, the nephew of Ahmed Gurey, who avenged his death by destroying Ethiopia again and beheading the Habesha emperor who killed Imam Gurey.

[King-of-Awdal]

There arent Marehaan living in Harrare this moment and my own Paternal Great grandMothers parents are from there so where did ur folkz disappear to Voltage as for my age i maybe young but i aint dumb.

[djibsomali]

lol
lol
lol

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... ingNur.jpg

wallahee i have laughed when i have seen you school boy scrible in photoshop


wallahee sidaa marehan kaa loguma sameyoo tarigh.
aboo siiad ha kugu filnaado.

if you want a history for marehan other than what they have in the kenya border and mandera city in kenya.

and if you want our approvement.

then OK everything is marehan not darod but you want everything to be marehan.

ok then
sayid abdallah hassan is a marehan

[Voltage]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]There arent Marehaan living in Harrare this moment and my own Paternal Great grandMothers parents are from there so where did ur folkz disappear to Voltage as for my age i maybe young but i aint dumb.[/quote]

KA, just 80 years ago Mareexaan lived in Sool and Sanaag.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... 1185731263

My father's great-grandfather is buried in Sanaag, and his grandfather moved to Wardheer in Ethiopia Haud where my grandfather was born and he in turn moved to Galgaduud Region (Balanbale) where my father was raised and I was born in Xamar and today call Beled-Xaawo (Gedo Region) my home-town. So???? Don't look at any Mareexaan people, look at me sxb this is my history and many people on this forum know me including non-Mareexaans.

My mom's great-grandma was from Sool, her grandmother was also born in Sool (infact the first cousin of the poet Cali Dhuux) and her mom was born in Beyra (a village just north of Gaalkacyo) and she was born in Geladi in Ethiopia but grew up in Galgaduud Region (Caabudwaaq) moved to Xamar where she met my dad and had me and now her father just passed away two years ago in Beled-Xaawo (Gedo Region) where also most of her family including brothers live.

What do you need to know about the great migration of Mareexaan if you have my family history right there?

[King-of-Awdal]

Voltage

So should i be suprised you have lineage to Sool and Sanag for gods sake ur Darood thats expected , if am not wrong isnt that where the man called Darood landed or something, however look at the distance between Sool and Sanag and Harrare or Saylac, dude do you realize as soon as u cross the border from Borame into ethopia first major cities u will hit are Harrare and Dire Dawa. It expected for you guyz to move since u are a much larger population than us, but we have been in the same region as always even before Ahmed Gurey arrived and there is n even a single oral recorded history of ur people ever being there.

[djibsomali]

where they bloody other somalis?

did anyone of you guys apart the marehan.

heard any marehan migration from somaliland down the somalo-kenyan frontier.

the above guy is saying that marehan used to own erigabo and hargeisa 80 years ago.


How many camels and trucks moved marehan from erigabo passing through the harti land.
passing the sacad land
the souleban land
the abgaal land.
via the vertile jubaa land

to baren land of gedo where it only rain once every 2 years.

who was that clever marehan king who took all his kinship traverse so many paridise to settle among all land but gedo.
where it is a desert.

was he taking the whole marehan tribe to uganda?

[Voltage]

More European documentation of Mareexaan migration to the south:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... 0Jubba.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... ngClan.jpg (almost at the end about coming from northern somaliland)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/51/serenlyih6.png (go to the second to last paragraph about arriving from north)

Even more descriptive:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3536/marehan1nu4.png
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3096/marehan2od7.png

Mareexaan sultanate even before that in the Red Sea:
http://marehansade.blogspot.com/2007/07 ... anate.html

So you see, it is extremely juvenile to ask if Mareexaan could have been at even Sudan in the 1500's.

[djibsomali]

it does says
"
This blog is dedicated to the unique history of the Sade Marehan clan of Somalia."


those photoshop scrible are not gonna make any favour to marehan.


you have lost all credibility tonigth like your uncle siad barreh.
you are victim of history greediness.

marehan a small clan that lives down south period.

when people migrate they migrate from desert to fertile land not vice versa.

did you people suffer delusion and tough gedo was the juba land???

[Voltage]

Who hole did this illiterate crawl out from under tonight?

[djibsomali]

what happen?

what happen to those photoshop stuff?

are you angry?

is the president of somalia abdilahi yussuf marehan as well.

those your people migrating again?

[The_Emperior5]

[quote="Somali2003"]Marehan folks, no need for you to convince very hard people who believe that their history was stolen and distorted by Siyad Bare. Some of them even believe that Siyad Bare paid European historian to write Darod History. They are in a state of denial, but save your documents for further reference.

If you would have restricted Ahmed Gurey's clan to being just Darod, you wouldn't be toiling hard to defend his honor by now. Laakin Somalidu waxay ku maahmaad, wax badso wax beel bey keentaa. Waxaana ka wadaa, let Ahmed Gurey be Daarod.

Awdal-King, the whole Darod nation emigrated from Sanag to Ogaden to the south and up to Kenya. The Adal was previously from Zeylac to all the way Bari, so don't be misled by the newly coined region "Awdal" which derives its name from Adal. The most significant groups particpated in the Grans' campaign were Harti, Marehan, and Geri. From Dir(which means the rest of the entire Somalia) only Habar Magadle participated but they were not significant as the three groups mentioned.[/quote]


UR RIGHT FROM SANAAG

HALKAY KA SOO WAREEGEEN INTAY ISAAQ CIISE GUGURRE IYO SAMAROOIN INTAY SOO DHAFAYN AY DAROOD IS KEENEEN SEYLAC WA CAJIIB

[precious_dyme]

For the pple who saying Marexaan didn't live in the northern part of Somalia.........u guys are soooo wrong

My great great-grand dads are all born there and even burried there
Horta do u guys even kno that northern part of Somalia was a darood degaan?

P.s. Imam Ahmed Gurey was Ina Nuur (Marexaan)


Queen_of_Awdal, soco ka carar mesha ur the dumbest of the dumb wa is cebeysay

[Aliyah99]

King of Awdal,

I believe ya

What they are trying to to convince people defies belief. The sources they came up with are not divine revelation. Although one can see from the debate how this confusion came about.