Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
There was no adal, ifat, jaberti in the horn during the 650's looool... There was just a bunch of nomadic somalis.... Somali qabiils are a creation of the last 700-800 years... Yemenis crossing the gulf of aden and settling is BS....
Your maps are wild dude.
Your maps are wild dude.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Mareexaan from Bendar Qassim to Kismayo in that short amount of time? Unbelievable. We might be in capetown by 2345!
Anyway can anybody tell me where I can learn more about Gerri Kombe? They're everywhere in the history books mashallah. Where do they live today?
Anyway can anybody tell me where I can learn more about Gerri Kombe? They're everywhere in the history books mashallah. Where do they live today?
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
^ Somali Galbeed.. I've met some before and I can tell you they are uninfluenced by qabiil.
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Axum wasn't a centralized empire, but a mass of tributary kingdoms, each of which was ruled by a prince (Ras). The first mentions of a Prince of Zeila for instance are in the 600s.
Himyar is recorded to have started founding colonies in East Africa in around 500 B.C., and later writings discuss the location of Himyar's colonies as being opposite Aden and Muza, which corresponds to where I drew them on the map. Also, of the Yemeni kingdoms, Himyar was unique in that it was Jewish, as were the Ibro.
However that leaves the colonies on the tip of the Horn of Africa, as discussed in Periplus of the Erythrean Sea. The Periplus states that the tip colonies are not Azanian, but part of the "Berber coast".
That got me thinking. There are actually two groups of people called "Jaberti". One group is in Eritrea, the other is in Hadramaut.
Now Himyar and Saba both had port cities, and BOTH of them had colonies in the Horn. Hadramaut is just as old as Himyar and Saba, and just as large and powerful, and just as mercantile, AND had extensive links to the incense trade, all of which were factors in Saba and Himyar founding colonies in the horn.
Also, Darood leaders through history have had a connection with Hadhramaut. Kenadiid found enough support there to conquer Hobyo in the 1870s, and they have always strongly identified with the region.
Himyar is recorded to have started founding colonies in East Africa in around 500 B.C., and later writings discuss the location of Himyar's colonies as being opposite Aden and Muza, which corresponds to where I drew them on the map. Also, of the Yemeni kingdoms, Himyar was unique in that it was Jewish, as were the Ibro.
However that leaves the colonies on the tip of the Horn of Africa, as discussed in Periplus of the Erythrean Sea. The Periplus states that the tip colonies are not Azanian, but part of the "Berber coast".
That got me thinking. There are actually two groups of people called "Jaberti". One group is in Eritrea, the other is in Hadramaut.
Now Himyar and Saba both had port cities, and BOTH of them had colonies in the Horn. Hadramaut is just as old as Himyar and Saba, and just as large and powerful, and just as mercantile, AND had extensive links to the incense trade, all of which were factors in Saba and Himyar founding colonies in the horn.
Also, Darood leaders through history have had a connection with Hadhramaut. Kenadiid found enough support there to conquer Hobyo in the 1870s, and they have always strongly identified with the region.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Zackapul,
Did they used to rule over Harti? As it was they seemed to be one of the most powerful Darood tribes.
Did they used to rule over Harti? As it was they seemed to be one of the most powerful Darood tribes.
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Murax,
No clue saxib.. I'm not good with Somali history. Just recently a Geri Kombe Ugaas was elected in Kismayo or something and gedoweb.com were the ones reporting it.
No clue saxib.. I'm not good with Somali history. Just recently a Geri Kombe Ugaas was elected in Kismayo or something and gedoweb.com were the ones reporting it.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Zack,
Where the hell did You ever meet a Gerri Kombe? Arn't You in Arizona dude? lol..
Where the hell did You ever meet a Gerri Kombe? Arn't You in Arizona dude? lol..
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Murax,
That is a very sensitive topic you're getting into. Lol
That is a very sensitive topic you're getting into. Lol
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
[quote="zackabdul"]Murax,
No clue saxib.. I'm not good with Somali history. Just recently a Geri Kombe Ugaas was elected in Kismayo or something and gedoweb.com were the ones reporting it.[/quote]
Finding a Geri Kombo is easy I know a lot of them, but I am finding hard to find is Faceye Sade. Looked one of them and never found one single person in my life. Where are these people at?
No clue saxib.. I'm not good with Somali history. Just recently a Geri Kombe Ugaas was elected in Kismayo or something and gedoweb.com were the ones reporting it.[/quote]
Finding a Geri Kombo is easy I know a lot of them, but I am finding hard to find is Faceye Sade. Looked one of them and never found one single person in my life. Where are these people at?
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
One of my good friends just got married to a Geri Kombe chick.. and sxb mashallah, she is beautiful. lol
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
This is one of my friends and a Geri Koombe singer
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
^^
Facaye-Sade are like the other Mareexaan clans like Reer Xassan (until recently), Reer Cisman and others that don't live in Somalia period but in Ogadenia/NFD. I wouldn't be suprised if the cuqdadlow Gudhad knows them as He knows Ogadenia clans pretty well. Ofcourse He'll probably say they claim Absame, lol...
One thing I notice about Darood clans is that they have good history and it seems each one got their time to shine. I read about the Warsangeli dynasty, then the Hobyo (Majerten), than Imam Guray (Mareexaan, Geri Kombe) Sayyid (Ogadeen) Daraawish (Dhulbahante), Lelkasse Dynasty, a lot of accomplishments!
Facaye-Sade are like the other Mareexaan clans like Reer Xassan (until recently), Reer Cisman and others that don't live in Somalia period but in Ogadenia/NFD. I wouldn't be suprised if the cuqdadlow Gudhad knows them as He knows Ogadenia clans pretty well. Ofcourse He'll probably say they claim Absame, lol...
One thing I notice about Darood clans is that they have good history and it seems each one got their time to shine. I read about the Warsangeli dynasty, then the Hobyo (Majerten), than Imam Guray (Mareexaan, Geri Kombe) Sayyid (Ogadeen) Daraawish (Dhulbahante), Lelkasse Dynasty, a lot of accomplishments!
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
[quote="MJ-Pride"]This is one of my friends and a Geri Koombe singer
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nice song...if only i could understand it all.
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nice song...if only i could understand it all.
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
[quote="Enlightened~Sista"][quote="MJ-Pride"]This is one of my friends and a Geri Koombe singer
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nice song...if only i could understand it all.[/quote]
Its completely understandable unless you don't understand Somali?
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nice song...if only i could understand it all.[/quote]
Its completely understandable unless you don't understand Somali?
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Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
lol let me listen to it again.
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