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Should somali schools teach evolution?

 
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Should somali schools teach evolution?

NO!

theory of evolution teaches everything that is against islam. it teaches things that are not possible. i.e from animal to human thing :? thats just one pointless waffle. and anyways if we are muslim, then we should teach what islam says about the creation of this world. not the kaafir version and as zelaika said schools should teach facts... not theories :roll: :roll: :roll:


eyes-only wrote:Should somali schools teach evolution?

YES

~ Because Allah tells you to seek knowledge wherever it comes from. Learning about such theories will only make your Imaan stronger and although Darwinian concepts can be a little off...not all elements of the evolutionary theory is wrong.

In any case, learning is not shirk. Living in ignorance and never being able to challenge such theories on a scientific level is much much worse. I hope some of you never become decision makers in Somalia....ever!!!

eyes only allah didnt say seek wrong knowledge. though, he said stay well away from it. the ayat is "fa idaa jaa akum faasiqin binaba in fatabayanuu" when fuqus comes, leave! and i think theary of evolution is just another fuqus
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Madd_Scientist_ wrote:Knowledge is the key....

Atleast if you know what darwin's theory is you can counteract, if you don't how would you possible put forward your ideas?

We've all been taught the theory about evolution, did that make us Non-Believers? NO!
well the problem is little scientific knowledge would make a person gaal and alot od scientific knowledge would make a person muslim.

most of these kids are tought about evolution and then very little other things. they then think that dariwn theory is fact because of there ignorance.

either teach children darwins theory and at the same time teach the qurans facts.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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eyes-only wrote:Koronto, they don't have to become an evolutionary scientist. I think it is wrong censor texts or to give anyone the power to determine what is and isn't beneficial.

I think if you let children learn about such things and also teach them the Islamic perspective...they'll grow up as confident believers stong in faith. If you shelter them from it and they find out later on as ignorant adults, they're more likely to be confused and not so strong in faith. Whatever the case, I am a seeker of knowledge and I would want my children to be the same. There is no harm in it.
Waan ku gartay! But, this is my issue with this theory, what knowledge does it increase in anyone when its nothing, but the fictitious creation of a bunch of old white men? Its nothing more than pure hogwash, very little of it draws its evidence from mechanisms Allah has already put in to work, the bulk of it is science fiction, why would you want to confuse little kids with something that will never benefit them & that isn't even accurate?

The theory of evolution was manufactured to counter Allah and its main objective is to disprove the existence of Allah by poking a million holes in the story of creation, the creation of the universe and that of all living beings.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Folks,

Seriously, Somalia has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the world. Teaching of any kind should be appreciated :up:
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Folks,

Seriously, Somalia has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the world. Teaching of any kind should be appreciated :up:
but then their mind would be filled with lies. whats the point. ignorance is a bliss. like the more you know , the more you are threat to yourself and others, and whats worse if these things you know happen to be wrong/haraam :( we will be doomed then. (not that we already not going to be by the look of it :roll: )
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Evolution is a mere creation of Darwin, who at the time detested the notion of God for the death of his daughter. There is really no need for 6 pages of discussion about this deplorable "discovery". Ultimately, he got what he wanted people to question what already exists and proven to be fact.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Koronto, did you learn the theory? And if yes, did it confuse you?

There is alot of stuff we learn that has zero tangible benefit for anyone. But still learning is learning and when a child is learning, you need to provide all the materials kids of his/her age are learning, otherwise the child would be at a disadvantage.

Once you say evolutionary theory is out of the window, next you'll have the big bang theory......I mean, where will it stop and who decides?
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Eyes-Only,

Yes, I learned the theory of evolution in college and it was a source of amusement for me, because by then I was able to differentiate between what is real science & pseudo-science. But, when you suggest, little kids with a different set of values than Western values should be taught these things, don't you see the damage it can cause?

There's so much knowledge in the world, why this particular fiction? Which conflicts with everything we hold sacred? I always believed too much of freedom was never a good thing, just because there's access to all these theories doesn't mean we should swallow it all and shove it down the throats of kids who don't know any better.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Boqor__Daarod wrote: chimpanzees have 24 pairs of chromosomes and humans have 23 pairs,

if we were from apes then we would hav had the same chromosomes
No, actually. That's like saying that you must be identical to your father to be from him. We only share SOME similarities with our fathers so as to point who we came from.

Humans and apes look too much like, we MUST be from the same ancestor.

In the same way that Somalis, Afar, and Oromo have one common ancestor, because of their close similarities and cultures -- which leads to the same conclusion for all forms of life. When two groups are so close, their must be a source of their closeness and this is called "common ancestor."

I'll provide more critical information at a later time.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:
Boqor__Daarod wrote: chimpanzees have 24 pairs of chromosomes and humans have 23 pairs,

if we were from apes then we would hav had the same chromosomes
No, actually. That's like saying that you must be identical to your father to be from him. We only share SOME similarities with our fathers so as to point who we came from.

Humans and apes look too much like, we MUST be from the same ancestor.

In the same way that Somalis, Afar, and Oromo have one common ancestor, because of their close similarities and cultures -- which leads to the same conclusion for all forms of life. When two groups are so close, their must be a source of their closeness and this is called "common ancestor."

I'll provide more critical information at a later time.

my father has 23 chromosomes and i have 23 chromosomes

my pet the chimp has 24 chromosomes and his father had 24 chromosomes

get the pic?
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Koronto, first of all kids who learn about evolution are not that young and have the brains to think. It is not like we're talking about nursery kids here. At that age you want something to stimulate your mind and you're even more questioning than when you're in college. Kids can spot cracks in such theories a mile off especially when they are getting religious education as well.

I don't see any harm to children....the harm is ignoring things like that and not educating kids on the Islamic views as well as the theories.

Besides kids these days are not that different in terms of values. And our values are subject to change and reflect the world we live in. If you are proud of and strong in what you are, you won't be threatened by anything else out there. :roll:
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Boqor__Daarod wrote:

my father has 23 chromosomes and i have 23 chromosomes

my pet the chimp has 24 chromosomes and his father had 24 chromosomes

get the pic?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ution.html

That article highlights that your chromosomes and other DNA keep changing. Your descendants, 100,000 to several million years from now, might have 25 or 26 chromosomes. :wink:
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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It shouldn't be taught in depth.....It should be taught that there is a crazy man named Darwin who proposed humans came from monkeys......Thats all they need 2 know.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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It should be taught in somali schools so somali kids can be aware of it and all it's flaws...otherwise, how are they expected to debate about something they know nothing about? I'd rather my kids knew about evolution and are able to show people who believe in it just how bullshyt the theory really is
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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KlashneFolk wrote:I find it very interesting the Quranic verse that reads:

" Was there not a time when man was a thing not worth mentioning."

I feel that Islam does believe in some form of evolution but not the conventional Darwinian idea that says Men came from Monkeys(apes to be specific)




Personal beliefs are no substitute for facts. Try reading the subsequent verses after the one you quoted and you may understand the meaning. Safest way is to never force subjective meaning on the verses of God. The verse has nothing to do with Evolution. Evolution(Darwinian) is a theory and a failed one at that.
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