The Prophets

[surrender]

im not going to "assume" things-there are reasons why allah dont mention certain things in the quran and allah said whatever i hide from you, dont go look for it. they were hidden for a reason-[alahu aclam

[FAH1223]

surrender it is unreasonable to assume all the Prophets from the beginning of time were all white, Israelites or Arabs.

Not possible. Allah gave us a mind to decipher.

Based on what Allah says in the Qur'an and our last Nabi SAW's hadith, it is safe to say there were Prophets of all backgrounds, not only in the Middle East.

[Enlightened~Sista]

people!! please learn more about your diin!! to say stuff like 'there were NO BLACK PROPHETS' subhanallah..is just pure ignorance. It doesnt matter what race anyone is, its their message that matters.

Quadratic, FAH, Shirib etc have done an excellent job addressing the issue...nothing more can be said.

[surrender]

surrender it is unreasonable to assume all the Prophets from the beginning of time were all white, Israelites or Arabs.

Not possible.

dont get your hope up -if black prophets existed and were mentioned-we would've have heard about them by now-and if the were prophets that were black/brown-there are reasons why allah didnt mention them-like some other things-alaahu aclum

[FAH1223]

surrender it is unreasonable to assume all the Prophets from the beginning of time were all white, Israelites or Arabs.

Not possible.

dont get your hope up -if black prophets existed and were mentioned-we would've have heard about them by now-and if the were prophets that were black/brown-there are reasons why allah didnt mention them-like some other things-alaahu aclum

Here is the fallacy of your argument. It has already been mentioned Prophets were sent to every nation and we know of the amount, 124,000 Prophets. How do you explain that? Allah mentioned it in his Kitaab! Nabi SAW said the number with his own tongue!

Your tone seems like you are saying Allah has something against black people i.e. Madows and your tone seems like you just really don't like black people or think they can do anything in the cause of Allah as a Prophet before.

It is ridiculous to think that a nation of darker skinned people or a nation of indhayar or a nation of cadaan didn't have a Prophet in that 124,000

[SummerRain]

Surrender, balaayo kula muraan badanatahy.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Sister surrender..we are not going to question why Allah s.w.t didnt mention the african prophets or the chinese ones or the fijian ones or the french ones!

its the message that matters..and as FAH said we have ample evidence from the Qur'an that Allah sent His guidance to ALL nations and tribes!

[Quadratic]

Quadratic i have nothing against balck people but from what i know and have learned- there is no such a thing as black prophet, if they were allah wouldve mentioned them in the quran. nevertheless prophet's race wasnt and itsnt and shouldnt be important to us-its the fact that they are our prophets and we should respect them for who they are-no what they are. alaahu aclam

Surrender, lavish me with your attention this morning so we can come to an agreement. We are halfway there already. The part you need to pay attention to is the part of the Quran where Allah says "To every nation we sent a messenger/prophet". If you recognize only one or two racial groups as "nations", then your argument will make sense. But if you agree that all races can be referred to as nations, it leads to the common understanding every muslim in here and elsewhere has about God sending a messenger to every nation be they black, brown, white or otherwise in the past. Prophet mohamed's message is universal so there is no need for a messenger to arrive afterwards. All nations be they white, black, brown, Arab or otherwise are required to follow him and accept his message. Why is that? Because the chain of prophets and messengers who used to appear out of other communities stopped with him. He is the last one of them. Before prophet Mohamed, Allahs tells us that each nation had a messenger/prophet sent to them. Allah informs prophet mohamed himself that some messengers were mentioned to him and others were not. Pay attention to that carefully. Mankind was always diverse linguistically and racially, Allah points that out in another verse when he says :

"Surah Ar-Rum Ayah [22] And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge. "



Now that is the beauty of islam, it pays tribute to all races with no bias. In some instances, there were some prophets spreading the message in different regions at the same period of time. A case in point is prophet Lut and Abraham. Non of them was an Arab or an Israeli. Why were they both spreading the same message at the same time in different regions? Think about it.


If you travel to the far corners of the earth and you find a group of human beings, they have an idea about God, whether it be in agreement with islam or not is questionable, but certainly, however twisted of a view a group of isolated human beings espouse, God is there in mankind's heart and that is because at some point, these people's forefathers met and learned from someone sent by God. That is why Allah says to every nation we sent a messenger. Who are we to cast a doubt on the generality of the verse?


I conclude with a verse that will shed some more light on this issue and clear all confusion, please pay attention to it:



"We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now God leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom. (The Noble Quran, 14:4)"

Check that out, before prophet mohamed, every messenger and prophet spoke the langauge of his people, Allah says that was the CASE, that requirement ended with prophet mohamed because his message is for all mankind, non of the races require a prophet who speaks their own langauge anymore because Allah says so. Allah changed the method of sending local prophets to the local people who spoke the local language with a universal message taught by a Universal messenger, everyone, every nation, every race must tow the line now. Tell me Surrender, since Africans have far too many languages to count, can we deny them a prophet when Allah says every messenger who was sent spoke the language of his people? Obviously not 8)

[Dhers]

Subhan'Allah look at what you are all arguing over! Allah guarantees a house in the outskirts of paradise for someone who leaves an argument even if he is in the right [saheeh hadiith]. So please bros/sizz, use your time more carefully insha'Allah so that you can stand before your Lord on the day of judgement and know that you spent your life serving him. Masha'Allah.

[PINK_BUNNY]

LOL.....I thought Somalis were smarter than this. The prophet Moses wasn't black, why? Cause he was Israeli and Israeilis are white!! Maybe there were prophets that were black, only God knows. This reminds me of these demented AAs who thought they were ancient Egyptians and Jesus was black.....WOW!!

[Shirib]

LOL.....I thought Somalis were smarter than this. The prophet Moses wasn't black, why? Cause he was Israeli and Israeilis are white!! Maybe there were prophets that were black, only God knows. This reminds me of these demented AAs who thought they were ancient Egyptians and Jesus was black.....WOW!!

How many Israelites do u know?

The Israeli's today are not Israelites

[PINK_BUNNY]

LOL.....I thought Somalis were smarter than this. The prophet Moses wasn't black, why? Cause he was Israeli and Israeilis are white!! Maybe there were prophets that were black, only God knows. This reminds me of these demented AAs who thought they were ancient Egyptians and Jesus was black.....WOW!!

How many Israelites do u know?

The Israeli's today are not Israelites

All you need 2 know is Prophet Moses wasn't Somali and he wasn't black! Brown doesn't equal black.....Are Indians black? What about the dark asians (thailand, etc)?

[Shirib]

LOL.....I thought Somalis were smarter than this. The prophet Moses wasn't black, why? Cause he was Israeli and Israeilis are white!! Maybe there were prophets that were black, only God knows. This reminds me of these demented AAs who thought they were ancient Egyptians and Jesus was black.....WOW!!

How many Israelites do u know?

The Israeli's today are not Israelites

All you need 2 know is Prophet Moses wasn't Somali and he wasn't black! Brown doesn't equal black.....Are Indians black? What about the dark asians (thailand, etc)?

Gotcha

[surrender]

people dont start attacking for no effing reason all i am saying and was saying and still trying to say is.. the 25 prophets mentioned in the Quran werent black because allah said so that 4 were Arab and the rest of the 25 were Israilist! alaahu aclum about the rest of the prophets not mentioned in the Quran-i wasnt talking about them, but as i said allah didnt mentioned them for a reason!! and only allah knows. acuudu bilaah (some of you just like to jump into conclusion )

[PINK_BUNNY]

^^^Somalis don't have many well known successful ppl so all they do is go round claimin other ppl, its quite pathetic.....I never thought however they would go as far as to claim prophets...WOW!