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Twisted_Logic

It doesn't take a genius to realize the destructive damage both factions are causing to Somalia's attempt to find a long-lasting resolution to the 18 year old conflict that has wrecked havoc on our country. Personally, I oppose the TFG and Al-Shabab because they are both part of the Somali problem and can't be the remedy to our calamity.

Of course destructive damage have been done because we have an organized terrorist entity that is determined never to see a viable Somali Republic. This group has to be fought off. The demage is being done under a great cause and one I and Somaliweyn welcome. God willing the Dowladiid will not win this battle for Somalia. Some favor anarchy over Government they must be taught a lesson.

Horta ninyaho your name says it all twisted Logic. Waryaa the TFG has brought forth the framework of Governance back to Somalia. The TFG is the solution to the 18 year old conflict that has wrecked havoc on our country.
Why is the TFG our Solution?

1. The TFG is the most inclusive Government Somalia has ever seen.

2. THe TFG got massive International support.

3. The TFG is lead by a Man who understands the Somali problem.

4. Last me not least the TFG has a plan for the Somali Nation.

The TFG was an unarmed government when it first began because it was a unified government that represented the whole of Somalia specially the stack Holders. It didn't feel it was going to have much resistance because all those that had power were in the government.


That being said the ICU emerged while the TFG had less than 5,000 men on the ground. They wanted to take advantage of the TFG weakness. The TFG determination to exits and the International Community readiness to help brought forth The AU iyo Ethiopia sending in its army to crush the resistance. The ICU diluted the TFG and wanted equally power at the negotiation table. The TFG look at the ICU and saw USC but the USC clans were already represented in the TFG 60 seats may I utter with PM seat. If the ICU were to be given equally authority as TFG what does that make the TFG? And I am pretty sure Puntland would want to come to the negotiation table as well because they have power as much as the ICU or more. Point blank is the ICU wanted to reform the government before it could even enter Mogadishu and that something that would have destroy the TFG politically right there and than and Puntland and other supporting clans would have pulled their support back.



As for Al-Shabab these guys want to take Somalia decades back.

1. They don't have Solution to the Somali Problem.

2. They are disorganize youth with no clear agenda.

3. There is no real leadship within Al-shabab

4.They Shame the Somali name iyo Islam teachings.

I prey they all go to hell and pay for the lives they haven taken.

The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Twisted_Logic wrote:The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Inclusive ninyaho not exclusive I thought you been smart enough to catch the typo?

So you want us to believe that there is 275 war-lords in Somalia? lol Go take a Hike Waryaa.

The people will have their say once peace iyo Dawlad is restored.

How old are you horta. Am serious Bro.

Twisted_Logic wrote:The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Yes there are warlords in the TFG(qeybdid, dheere etc) because the only leaders somali's have in the south are warlords, you're not gonna find many clean somali leaders in the south even the ICU had indhacade., we have to accept that in order to move on. But the president of the TFG is a man who's capable of leading somalia, just look at he's record in puntland, and he's resistance against the dictatorship of barre.

Prime minister Nuur cadde is also a rational man, and a good leader, and the TFG is exclusive government. It's too bad the TFG there is in fighting with the TFG, because this is truly the last hope of a real government somalia has. Hopefully, something will come from the Djoubuti peace process and all somali's should support that.

Twisted_Logic wrote:How old are you horta. Am serious Bro.

Ninyaho my age is not of your concern.

RebelLion wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Yes there are warlords in the TFG(qeybdid, dheere etc) because the only leaders somali's have in the south are warlords, you're not gonna find many clean somali leaders in the south even the ICU had indhacade., we have to accept that in order to move on. But the president of the TFG is a man who's capable of leading somalia, just look at he's record in puntland, and he's resistance against the dictatorship of barre.

Prime minister Nuur cadde is also a rational man, and a good leader, and the TFG is exclusive government. It's too bad the TFG there is in fighting with the TFG, because this is truly the last hope of a real government somalia has. Hopefully, something will come from the Djoubuti peace process and all somali's should support that.

Horta, I am not going to argue politics with you sxb. Do you even know what an "Exclusive government" means?

Somalian_Boqor wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:How old are you horta. Am serious Bro.

Ninyaho my age is not of your concern.

Look at this sad creature. How am I going to answer your questions when I have no idea who I am dealing with.

RebelLion wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Yes there are warlords in the TFG(qeybdid, dheere etc) because the only leaders somali's have in the south are warlords, you're not gonna find many clean somali leaders in the south even the ICU had indhacade., we have to accept that in order to move on. But the president of the TFG is a man who's capable of leading somalia, just look at he's record in puntland, and he's resistance against the dictatorship of barre.

Prime minister Nuur cadde is also a rational man, and a good leader, and the TFG is exclusive government. It's too bad the TFG there is in fighting with the TFG, because this is truly the last hope of a real government somalia has. Hopefully, something will come from the Djoubuti peace process and all somali's should support that.

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RebelLion people blind themselves from the Truth they all know the reality on the ground but want to look the other way yet want to come on forums and debate those that don't blind themselves from the Reality like you and I.

If this government doesn't succeed with or without Abduallhi Yusuf than Wallahi Somalia is doomed. It took years to have Somali agree on something and form a government. This Government shall not and will not be destroyed!!! Those that believe in anarchy need to find a new country to practice their faith in because we have no room for such anymore.

Twisted_Logic wrote:

RebelLion wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:The TFG is the most exclusive Government Somalia has ever seen

That's what we have been saying all along. The TFG is select group for Somalia's warlords. The people have no say in it. Now go take some rest. You are visibly tired

Yes there are warlords in the TFG(qeybdid, dheere etc) because the only leaders somali's have in the south are warlords, you're not gonna find many clean somali leaders in the south even the ICU had indhacade., we have to accept that in order to move on. But the president of the TFG is a man who's capable of leading somalia, just look at he's record in puntland, and he's resistance against the dictatorship of barre.

Prime minister Nuur cadde is also a rational man, and a good leader, and the TFG is inclusive government. It's too bad the TFG there is in fighting with the TFG, because this is truly the last hope of a real government somalia has. Hopefully, something will come from the Djoubuti peace process and all somali's should support that.

Horta, I am not going to argue politics with you sxb. Do you even know what an "Exclusive government" means?

Lol, typo man. I mean inclusive. The typo aside, why don't you deal with the points i raised. i remember you were a staunch supporter of the government untill somali weyn and AW brainwashed you with some hawiye stories.

RebelLion,

I can't defend a system that can't defend itself

Twisted Logic used to be very very pro-TFG

GENERAL_SNM wrote:Twisted Logic used to be very very pro-TFG

He was, Abdiwahab, and Somaliweyn got to the brother with tales of hawiye supremacy. At least he's not a blind shabab supporter. The TFG at the end of the day is there as a foundation government, to pave the way for better governments in the future. It's far from perfect with many shady people, but as I've said before, are there any good african governments?

Twisted_Logic wrote:RebelLion,

I can't defend a system that can't defend itself

Horta answer this question how is the TFG not defending itself?

4 years since it was formed and still stand. Please explain...