Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

[DR-YALAXOOW]

'Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

iam 100% sure that hadith is not saxiiix(authentic) becouse there is in Holy Qura'n ayah which says( 'La ikraaha fi diin)WHICH means RELIGION is not compulsory , you can not force someone in the religion( DIINTA QASAB MAAHA) laa ikraaha fi DIIN.

marka that hadiith is contraducs the HOLY QURAN. and QURAN IS THE WORD OF ALLAH. and hadith is not. therefore QURAN MOST become first.

why you care if someone stay to be a muslim or he become GAAAL. we are not GOD. if you become GAAAL THEN you will end-up NAARUL JAHANAMA, this HADIITH whichs says who ever changes hes religion kill him its FAKE HADIITH. becouse there is SURAH IN THE QURAN whichs says DIINTA QASAB maaha.

[ms.naliaa]

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thanx man.

[Shirib]

My biggest issue is not islam but the fact that someone is gonig to FORCE me to live the religion I CHOSE a certain way.
Can you imagine how you can easily get people to hate their own religion, its scare tactics and punishment infringments like this. Do you think someone is going to appreciate the beauty of their religion if they are being scared into it?
What happens when they leave the muslim country? Isnt the idea of islam that you spread it, if your forcing ppl to live a certain way, as soon as they leave, they'll fly off the handle.
Unless your claiming to be perfect, I dont think others should be punished for what you beleive. I think islam is a personal choice and it should remain that way as long as ur not harming anyone else.

p.s. just for arguments sake....will anyone who leaves the religion be killed? cause some do beleive that should be the case

It's not being forced or scared into it. It is creating the social fabric for Islam. If Islam was the law of the land, people would follow their religion more accordingly, and insha'allah their imaan will rise. If u leave the Islamic country u will know more about ur diin.

This is good for the religion, they are only enforcing what is already there. Nothing new is being brought into the religion. Just making people properly practice their religion.

p.s. I like the bible paraphrase

[Shirib]

Yalaxoow and naliaa

The saxaaba practices killing apostates, and is agreed upon by all 4 school of law. Do u know better than Ali RA and the 4 great Imaams?

[Megatron]

ms. naliaa

I noticed. You've been giving him a beat down.


That wasn't my quote Doc. It's Shriiibs. I was just quoting.

Shiriib

You just dont get it do you ? Islam doesn't NEED fanatics dictating to people through threat of violence to obey Allah's will. It's their choice. Actually READ you're Q'ran for once.

[ms.naliaa]

It's not being forced or scared into it. It is creating the social fabric for Islam. If Islam was the law of the land, people would follow their religion more accordingly, and insha'allah their imaan will rise. If u leave the Islamic country u will know more about ur diin.

This is good for the religion, they are only enforcing what is already there. Nothing new is being brought into the religion. Just making people properly practice their religion.
p.s. I like the bible paraphrase

I dont agree with forcing people to practice their religion. You can ask, you can educate but not force.
Detaining a woman for 12 hours because she doesnt want to wear the hijab seems extreme to me. Allah didnt say force them to do things my way. Allah (not quoting here) swt, wants people to be shown the way and if they astray then it is on allah to judge and punish, not you.
Again, if they are not harming anyone else...whats the issue?

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Yalaxoow and naliaa

The saxaaba practices killing apostates, and is agreed upon by all 4 school of law. Do u know better than Ali RA and the 4 great Imaams?

sxb our first resource of understanding the religion its first IN THE QURAN( shaafici xanbali iyo dhamaan other schools dhamaantood waa baniaadam. xiligii ay noolaayeeyna sidii loo dhaqmi jirey ayey badanaa cabirkooda ahaa. laakiin maanta maaha 500 years ago ama 100 years ago. maanta waa 2008. waa inaad quraanka akhrisataa. fasirataa. markaasna fahamtaa.

hadduu quraanka yiri( laa ikraaha fi diin) micnaheedu yahay DIINTA QASAB MAAHA. iyo xadiis oranaya( dila qofkii diinta badasha) ka waran waa laba eray iska hor imaanaya. marka yaa qaadaneysa? offcourse the word of allah quran ayaad qaadaneysaa. hadiiska dhahayana ha la dilo qofkii diinta badasha waa XADIIS FAKE been ah. sababtoo ah aayadii ayuu ka hor imaanayaa.

xitaaa MASKAXIYAN u fikirin qofkii diinta raba inuu ka baxo yaa ku celin kara waa qofna. qofkaas hadduu og yahay in la dilayo. wuu iska aamusayaa ISAGOO hooos gaaal ka ah AYUU MASAAJIDKA safka ugu horeeya ku jirayaa. SHEEKH WEEYN iska dhigayaa, marka maxaa dhacaya? waxaa dhacaya waaa BULSHO wada munaafiqiin ah kor islaam iska dhig dhigaya HOOSNA gaaalo ka wada ah. marka waxaas wax fiican miyaa. off course maaha wax fiican.

laakiin haddii aayada la raaaco ee ah LAA IKRAAHA FI DIIIN. ok if you wanna become gaaal YES GOOD BYE gaaal noqo. adigeey ku jirtaa AAKHIRO CADAAB ayaa ku sugeysa maxaa naga galey. markaa bulshadaaas waxay noqoneysaa ISLAAAM SAXIIX AH oo aan ku dhex jirin MUNAAFAQ(QOF HOOS GAAL KA AH)

marka DIINTEENA ISLAAMKA qalad ma laha laakiin waxaa islaamka wareeriyey waa QURAANKA oo aan la raacin, oo waxaa la raacaa SHIIKH HEBEL HEBEL muxuu yiri. HADDA WAHAABIYADA DADKA DILA wadamada afghanistaan somalia wadamo baddan waxay daliishadaaan IBNU TAYMIN oo ahaa carab nationaliste ahaa ee noolaa 1230kii. carabkaas JIHAAAADKA bugaag baddan ka qoray. dadkii uu markaas la dagaalamayeyna waxay ahaayeen DAD MUSLIMIIN AHAA OO la oran jirey TARTAAAR ee indho yar yaraa ee uu ka dhashey IMAAM BUKHAARI. ibnu thaymin kuwa is qarxiya ama jihaaad ku sheega xasuuqa dadka islaamka waxay daliishadaaan wuxuu qorey ninkaaaas nolaaa 700 sano ka hor ee ahaa carab nationalist diintana u macneeystay siduu isaga jeclaaa.

imaam shaafici wax yaalo baddan waa ku fiican yahay isaga xitaa qaladaad baddan ayaa jira sida ninkii SALAADA AAN TUKAN ha la dilo oo kale. imaamyada kalena sidoo kale. marka waxaa fiican wixiii fiican in laga qaato wixii kalane KITAABKA QURAANKA la barto laga doonto sida diinta qasab maaha. ZINADA DHAGAX KU DILID WAA XAARAAN KITAABKA KUMA QORNA. OO KALE.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Alxaaram are danger to somalia.They will bring the religion of taliban to our country whereby a girl and boy talking to each other or falling in love with each others(this happened in afghanistan yesterday) means death penalty.
May Allah slaughter them likes sheeps,to start with abu eelay al khanziiri.Allahuma amiin.

Anyways wearing a veil is command from Allah swt and God SWT says:
There is no compulsion in religion.
Also believing in Allah swt and his Messenger PBUH is a command from Allah swt but Allah says:
99. And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad SAW) then compel mankind, until they become believers.

[Shirib]

It's not being forced or scared into it. It is creating the social fabric for Islam. If Islam was the law of the land, people would follow their religion more accordingly, and insha'allah their imaan will rise. If u leave the Islamic country u will know more about ur diin.

This is good for the religion, they are only enforcing what is already there. Nothing new is being brought into the religion. Just making people properly practice their religion.
p.s. I like the bible paraphrase

I dont agree with forcing people to practice their religion. You can ask, you can educate but not force.
Detaining a woman for 12 hours because she doesnt want to wear the hijab seems extreme to me. Allah didnt say force them to do things my way. Allah (not quoting here) swt, wants people to be shown the way and if they astray then it is on allah to judge and punish, not you.
Again, if they are not harming anyone else...whats the issue?

The issue is it leads to society breaking down. If people don't dress properly it leads to people to follow them and before u know it u can't tell if your in a Muslim country or Harlem. That is the issue and that's why the laws are in place.

Adultery and fornication technically don't hurt other people either but their is punishment for it.

[Megatron]

The issue is it leads to society breaking down. If people don't dress properly it leads to people to follow them and before u know it u can't tell if your in a Muslim country or Harlem. That is the issue and that's why the laws are in place.

Adultery and fornication technically don't hurt other people either but their is punishment for it.

No. No, it doesn't. You have NO idea what you're talking about now.

[ms.naliaa]

The issue is it leads to society breaking down. If people don't dress properly it leads to people to follow them and before u know it u can't tell if your in a Muslim country or Harlem. That is the issue and that's why the laws are in place.

Adultery and fornication technically don't hurt other people either but their is punishment for it.

So if the person doesnt want to oblige your gonna punish them
if they dont want to be in the religion anymore, ur gonna kill them
so what incentive does a person have to be muslim?
Dont you think ur stripping away the beauty be having ppl force the smallest aspect of the religion?

p.s. adultery hurts the families involved!

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

The issue is it leads to society breaking down. If people don't dress properly it leads to people to follow them and before u know it u can't tell if your in a Muslim country or Harlem. That is the issue and that's why the laws are in place.

Adultery and fornication technically don't hurt other people either but their is punishment for it.

So if the person doesnt want to oblige your gonna punish them
if they dont want to be in the religion anymore, ur gonna kill them
so what incentive does a person have to be muslim?
Dont you think ur stripping away the beauty be having ppl force the smallest aspect of the religion?

p.s. adultery hurts the families involved!

Sister that is the religion of khawarij and eelay tribe.

Muslims dont force a woman upon veil.
A muslim woman has the choice to wear veil or not,just like a kafir has the choice to believe or disbelieve while both (wearing veil & believing in Allah swt)are commands!

[Shirib]

The issue is it leads to society breaking down. If people don't dress properly it leads to people to follow them and before u know it u can't tell if your in a Muslim country or Harlem. That is the issue and that's why the laws are in place.

Adultery and fornication technically don't hurt other people either but their is punishment for it.

So if the person doesnt want to oblige your gonna punish them
if they dont want to be in the religion anymore, ur gonna kill them
so what incentive does a person have to be muslim?
Dont you think ur stripping away the beauty be having ppl force the smallest aspect of the religion?

p.s. adultery hurts the families involved!

MUSLIMS GO TO HEAVEN DUHH...isn't that what this whole life is all about

Islam is beautiful in all aspects and people should realize it, and if they did, they would have no problem with the rulings.

Adultery technically hurts no one, but it ruins society same thing with this ruling

[ms.naliaa]

MUSLIMS GO TO HEAVEN DUHH...isn't that what this whole life is all about

Islam is beautiful in all aspects and people should realize it, and if they did, they would have no problem with the rulings.

Adultery technically hurts no one, but it ruins society same thing with this ruling

Exactly, worry about your path to jenna rather than someone else.
If THEY want to go to janna then THEY will oblige to the religion and follow it without being forced.
p.s. adultery is an ethical issue and most people know its wrong.
but covering your hair? c'm on ur really gonna compare the two?
thats grasping at straws at best.

[ModerateMuslim]

'Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

iam 100% sure that hadith is not saxiiix(authentic) becouse there is in Holy Qura'n ayah which says( 'La ikraaha fi diin)WHICH means RELIGION is not compulsory , you can not force someone in the religion( DIINTA QASAB MAAHA) laa ikraaha fi DIIN.

marka that hadiith is contraducs the HOLY QURAN. and QURAN IS THE WORD OF ALLAH. and hadith is not. therefore QURAN MOST become first.

subhanallah....

ya dameer, this hadith 100% authenticated! it's the message of our beloved prophet saw (like the qur'an) and the way of the salaf (raa). and the words and actions of our prophet are to be follow 100% without deviation - for whosoever rejects part of the deen (like the sunnah of our beloved prophet saw) rejects all of it. such person has left the fold of islam.

and moron, don't twist the qur'an to suit your desires.... it's true that there's no compulsion in deen, i.e. we can't force a kaffir or mushrik to become a muslim. but it has nothing to do with a muslim becoming kaffir... for that ruling, because it's not in the qu'ran, we look to the sunnah of our beloved prophet prophet saw, as collected by imaam-ul-islam al-bukhari, which doesn't contradict the qur'an for guidance.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes). Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is only a Revelation revealed. He has been taught (this Qur’aan) by one mighty in power [Jibreel (Gabriel)].

One free from any defect in body and mind then he (Jibreel — Gabriel in his real shape as created by Allaah) rose and became stable”[al-Najm 53:1-6]