How would Puntland deal with Al-shebaab goverment?

[Cusmano]

If shabab beats the south and conquers it, then i will be very worried for puntland because these guys will just turn their eyes up north and continue the invasion...But i am sure if these guys even look like their capturing the south and the tfg. ethiopia will quickly get back involved and save the day...But something really needs to be done about these guys maybe a 3 months complete bombardment by u.s.a airforce, marines, etc and cutt these bastards off so they can never rebuild themselves and come back at the tfg...

Their definitely needs to be lasting solution, there is no point ethiopia intervening for another 2 years, and leaving and 2 years returning..their needs be permanent solution and america is the best option they rats keep coming back..

[Goljano Lion]

A Mooryaan with a load of holy books is still a Mooryaan

[Desert-Runner]

Shirib, Ethiopia got AY's admin to Mogadishu with the approval of the TFG parliament, so your miss informed if you think they invaded Somalia. Either ways the Ethiopians are gone now so why are Al-shabaab still spilling blood?

Cause they wanna rule the country duhh.

Ethiopian troops entered Somalian in July of 06 who approved them then?

When ever a sovereign country is threaten the first thing it take it diplomacy, but since were talking about a stateless country like Somalia diplomacy addressing nothing. So if Ethiopia dealt with whom threaten it from inside Somalia in 2006 the blame is really on the Somalis themselves because if they had their act together I'm sure Ethiopia would have approach Somalia in statesmen like fashion.

As for your reason why the Al-shabaab continue to spill blood even after the Ethiopians have left...then answer me this - if Al-shabaab have the view that they are the ones who are right people to implement Shari’ah law in the country, would it not be appropriate to seek votes from the civilian population instead of seeking power by force?

[Shirib]

Shirib, Ethiopia got AY's admin to Mogadishu with the approval of the TFG parliament, so your miss informed if you think they invaded Somalia. Either ways the Ethiopians are gone now so why are Al-shabaab still spilling blood?

Cause they wanna rule the country duhh.

Ethiopian troops entered Somalian in July of 06 who approved them then?

When ever a sovereign country is threaten the first thing it take it diplomacy, but since were talking about a stateless country like Somalia diplomacy addressing nothing...so if Ethiopia dealt whom threaten it inside Somalia in 2006 the blame is really on the Somalis themselves because if they had their act together I'm sure Ethiopia would have approach Somalia in statesmen like fashion.

As for your reason why the Al-shabaab continue to spill blood even after the Ethiopians have left...then answer me this - if Al-shabaab have the view that they are the ones who are right people to implement Shari’ah law in the country, would it not be appropriate to seek votes from the civilian population instead of seeking power by force?

Since when do u vote on sharia

But anyways waraa everyone is fighting for power nothing more nothing less

[Desert-Runner]

Shirib, the current TFG just voted to implement Shari'ah, so how is theirs any different then the one Al-shabaab continue to spill blood for?

[Shirib]

Shirib, the current TFG just voted to implement Shari'ah, so how is theirs any different then the one Al-shabaab continue to spill blood for?

What part of they are fighting for power are you not getting

[Voltage]

First of all you guys need to stop ganging up on Shirib and Murax so what if this supports them because his clan rules from Bakool to Shabelle Hoose...the reality is that IS Digil and Mirifle land so if Shirib supports them because his people rule those lands well he has a right to because that is called dispensing justice. Yes or no?

As for these guys, whether they are wrong or right let us stay on the reality which is these guys are an unstoppable human power in Somalia. I read some reports saying they took over Mahaday town and are headed towards Bula Burde, that is even faster sprint then I thought. See the location of Bula Burde in the map...exactly equidistant between Beled-Weyne and Jowhar and remember just like the 2000 election in America was judged by Florida I have stressed here that Beled-Weyne is the key to the first part of the equation.

[Murax]

Voltage,

Again, Gedo, the Jubba's, Bay, Bakool and heck pretty much all the south were all lawless territories with no maamul, capturing them was a walk in the park. Now there going to be headed to areas that:

A-In Galgududs case do not want them there period
B-Have solid maamuls in place who have nothing to gain from 'Shababs peace'

[Desert-Runner]

Shirib, the current TFG just voted to implement Shari'ah, so how is theirs any different then the one Al-shabaab continue to spill blood for?

What part of they are fighting for power are you not getting

So its not even about implementing shari'ah, rather its all about power?

[Voltage]

The lawless territories are more harder to capture then the provincial areas. Murax marna Ethiopia marna Majeerteen fighting skill marna baryo baad taagantahay someone knocks these guys out

[Murax]

The lawless territories are more harder to capture then the provincial areas. Murax marna Ethiopia marna Majeerteen fighting skill marna baryo baad taagantahay someone knocks these guys out

Who Me? Adeer I'm just speaking the truth, laakin adi You need to take a deep breath and relax. I mean We know You're rooting for them laakin its like You're sky high wanting them to succeed. I'm afraid if they get crushed You'll go through a depression. Everything I said was based on logic, they attack Sland/Pland Zenawi comes in, and they've been whopped in Galgudud too. Laakin sorry for not betting on Your favorite team

[paidmonk]

Here's a strange thought - how are disorganized, barely-armed Galguduudian clan militias defeating Al-Shabaab, and I mean casualties in the dozens battles lasting 2-3 days - yet the Marehan clan militia (better armed, better trained, better financed, better organized, & more numerous) in Gedo lasted a week total before losing all territories? Isn't this the same SNF that beat Itihad in '96?

How are these Galguduudian militias lasting so long? Al-Shabaab is not sending everything, but if they've lost 50 men in 3 days of fighting, they're sending quite a few.

[Voltage]

I am not rooting for them sxb. I only aim to discuss current realities but the individuals who want them defeated seem to be conjuring up all sorts of scenarios in which they will be defeated. And mark my words ETHIOPIA WILL NOT STEP FOOT IN SOMALIA.

[Shirib]

Abdi Waal and his boys got something comin their way

[paidmonk]

This isn't an objective question aimed at you, its a general question, I'm as curious as everyone else where the hell these Galguduudian sufis came from and how they're able to karbaash better-armed Al-Shabaab militia.




Shirib, what's coming to Galguduud? Explain.