Habar Yonis...

[Digdahab]

now lad not only HJ give credit to Arap and Ayoub also, Toljeclo
many clans saved Habar Awal

[LiQaaye_TDH]

Walle without HJ involvement in that war I am a firm believer in that HA would've joined the long line of tribes who have lost land and property to the HY locust. Think about it HJ took the brunt of the HY offensive full force in Burco, I dont think HA would have stud a chance without that intervention which gave then a buffer zone, and a much needed breathing space. The only time HY proper and HA meet is in Berbera with the Cisse Muse who are no push over, having more incommon with the blood thirsty tribes of the east then their timid brother from the west. In short a direct battle between HA and HY would be a nonstarter and any comparison between the two in the battlefield is sheer stupidity. Now if you say HA have more money then HY thats a fact, just like saying HY are much much better warriors then HA.

Waryahay Habar Awal Never had any support from anyone in Saaxil in 1992, and the Habar Jeclo involvement came in 1995, when Habar Jeclo was promised couple of things by the New Habar Awal Goverment! Habar Awal alone outsmarted all the other clans in Somaliland even the None Isaaqs.

GNSM... if you think Habar Awal dont have figthers, Let me tell you they had the Strongest Battles in Westen Somaliland, Habar Jeclo had the strongest and the hardest battels in Easten Somaliland Specially (Guutada Koobad) an the Sacad Muse not even all Sacad Muse ( the Jibril Abokor) got the title for the Best Bravery in Galbeedka Somaliland, they are the ones that took over (Zaylac, Boorame and all of Awdal and Hargeisa was taken over by all Isaaqs including HJ, Mujaahid Silaanyo was Stationed in Balligubadle ones)

[Digdahab]

liqaaye Jibril Abokr was stationed in Saylac much later by Egal
SNM never invaded Borama, and it was not HA, but a whole coaltion,

best bravery in galbeedka, all of awdal????

ninyow you appear to biased here, you know damn well HJ was involved against HY in Burco before 95

[The_Emperior5]

Walle without HJ involvement in that war I am a firm believer in that HA would've joined the long line of tribes who have lost land and property to the HY locust. Think about it HJ took the brunt of the HY offensive full force in Burco, I dont think HA would have stud a chance without that intervention which gave then a buffer zone, and a much needed breathing space. The only time HY proper and HA meet is in Berbera with the Cisse Muse who are no push over, having more incommon with the blood thirsty tribes of the east then their timid brother from the west. In short a direct battle between HA and HY would be a nonstarter and any comparison between the two in the battlefield is sheer stupidity. Now if you say HA have more money then HY thats a fact, just like saying HY are much much better warriors then HA.

Waryahay Habar Awal Never had any support from anyone in Saaxil in 1992, and the Habar Jeclo involvement came in 1995, when Habar Jeclo was promised couple of things by the New Habar Awal Goverment! Habar Awal alone outsmarted all the other clans in Somaliland even the None Isaaqs.

GNSM... if you think Habar Awal dont have figthers, Let me tell you they had the Strongest Battles in Westen Somaliland, Habar Jeclo had the strongest and the hardest battels in Easten Somaliland Specially (Guutada Koobad) an the Sacad Muse not even all Sacad Muse ( the Jibril Abokor) got the title for the Best Bravery in Galbeedka Somaliland, they are the ones that took over (Zaylac, Boorame and all of Awdal and Hargeisa was taken over by all Isaaqs including HJ, Mujaahid Silaanyo was Stationed in Balligubadle ones)

Yes the jibriel abokor had guuto 99 that liberated gabiley arabsiyo dila boorame seylac Whille the makahil had sayid Xamsa and where In north Somaliland and the rest of the habarawal had guuto 4 those where the guutos that where going inside hargeisa And berbera.
Kan Janaraal snm doesn’t know the most deadliest wars happened inside hargeisa. I remember my uncle telling me they moved inside the hils of hargeisa where they used to fire down to the faqash hold districts in hargeisa. Abdi aziz cali bare states that meeshu Ku madhay ciidamadiisu Was in District togdheer ciidankisa Habarjeclada dhulkisa aya gali karii wayeen.

[The_Emperior5]

Walle without HJ involvement in that war I am a firm believer in that HA would've joined the long line of tribes who have lost land and property to the HY locust. Think about it HJ took the brunt of the HY offensive full force in Burco, I dont think HA would have stud a chance without that intervention which gave then a buffer zone, and a much needed breathing space. The only time HY proper and HA meet is in Berbera with the Cisse Muse who are no push over, having more incommon with the blood thirsty tribes of the east then their timid brother from the west. In short a direct battle between HA and HY would be a nonstarter and any comparison between the two in the battlefield is sheer stupidity. Now if you say HA have more money then HY thats a fact, just like saying HY are much much better warriors then HA.

General answer me one question how come the h.y you talk about that live in our degaans are insignificant and you describe the hy. Hj live with as lions what the hell are you talking about.
Hj took in the 50s land from the hy. Dude you need to understand the hy. Who live with us in berbera and hargeisa are insignificant they live inside the sea of super awal. The Isxaaq And the muse cabdalle. You’re a guy who acts like he knew a few poems waliga manad maqlin
Gabayga. Awal raacay muse cabdale odayaadisi = in other words Muse cabdalle became inferior to Adan ciise, Or cabdi gahayr
Tamashlaynta sacadmuse iyo taha habaryoonis. As for the isxaaq. The isxaaq care where maryo alool they where with us in the civil war we totally brainwashed and abused the fukers in hargeisa. Habarawal babay isku haystan hada Habaryoonista hadhay wayo ?
Anigu Ninka From Sheikh ila berbera ila hargeisa ila galbeed kala baydh wajaale dusheeda Down to hawd Banka xarshin All the way to qabri bayax To the left na Jigjigan ka si gaadha. Intan xuduuda Somaliland dhaafay Ayaan Djiboutian noqda markan doono
Yaad u sheekeynaysa sxb
Habarawal Border Habaryoonis they Border habarjeclo in saaxil Ciidagalle in maroodijeex iyo arab baligbudle They border Gadabuursi They border Ciise Canfar they border Jidwaaq in qabri bayax and jigjiga absame Akishe Gurgure To the east they Border Reer isaaq of the ogaden. Dhulkaaso oo dhan ma ciyaar banu ku qabsanay sxb Xiiniyo burburan ba lugu qabsaday Dhulkan qabsado anigu Madax baan ka noqda , not like your abtiyaal general snm qamandi isku ma dilno

[Siciid85]

Garxajis were fighting two different fronts in hargeisa and Burco. In hargeisa they were fighting against the government which had all the military and capital advantage. The only victory scored against the garxajis in hargeisa however came early when government troops mostly Arap, sacad muse and abdale Isxaaq(HY) attacked ciidagle milita at the airport. However, cidagale recovered and massed a deadly counter attack even forcing Igal out of hargeisa. He was interviewed on BBC while on the run and he said and I quote " they attacked us, they attacked my villa, and I didnt even get the chance to brush my teeth". The Isxaaq carre later joined the side of cidagale and they were clear winner in hargeisa war shelling the sacad muse residential areas on daily basis. This is again despite sacad muse having support from all other Isaaq clans, samaroon, dhuloz and warsangeli. We still were able to man handle our young causins and show them a little taste of garxajis might. Offcouse we weren't motivated to fight as clan, because we knew our adversaries were close kins of ours, thus we halted after couple elbows on back of maam sacdiyo muse and she screamed hoogay o ba'aay iga qabtaay!.

However, Burco was slaughter house between two fierce clans of mostly pro govt militia from local Hj and SL army vs. H/yonis. The eastern Somalilanders are geeljire in nature and they dont fear the bullet or death. This was a real conflict where nothing was spared. Each side using anything at its disposal, bms, tanks, heavy artillery to maim the other. Later, H/yonis advanced into suuqal bari and eventually won the ground war. The reason we lost the political war was because H/yonis and garxajis in general were always pro Somaliland independence and when Gen. Ghalib and Abidrahan tuur aun decided to join Aideed in the south, then garxajis elders had no choice but to sign peace treaty with their close kins in Somaliland to avoid being reunited with Somalia. Thus ending the stalemate.

Emperior,

Isxaaq Carre are the most peace loving, religious folks out of all isaaqs I think. They have never been conflict seeking people. They mind their bussiness. Even when h/y and ciidagale fought in daroor they chose to stay out of it. They are honorable people. So when you say they are nothing, it doesn't mean they are afraid of you, hargeisa has been their home for centuries and aren't afraid of anybody. Specially since Hargeisa is garxajis dominated town of ciidagale and isxaaq carre as well other h/y now.

As far as land is concern, I have already told you, we dont intend to fight any other isaaq clan for land grabbing, we have bigger fight to fry in the Hawd and the East. Do you hear any noise from Warsangeli in Cerigaabo, though they make the majoirty there. do you hear any noise from ogaden in hawd. No. Because those are the real garxajis. The garxajis in hargeisa and berbera are reer magaal version of us, if you want to see real garxajis fighting spirit then go see them in hawd. They each carry fire and pride in their shoulders and they dont take shit from anybody. They will simply shoot you and piss on your body.This isn't just bravado but the motto of their daily lives. Forget peace loving wadad clan like Isxaaq and rer magaal muse abdalle in rer berbera. Go see the real muse Abokor and guuyobe and rer caynaanshe in the hawd son.

Berbera ila shiekh ila Hargeisa that is like half day travel. Besides to your west it's pretty much easy ride, are you kiding the huunos of Samaroon aren't enough adversaries...they are tiny and have never been fighting clan but peaceful and educated group. The dhulbahante and ogaden geeljires are real soldiers sxb , I'd like to see sacad muse clan being thrown in the midst of these clans...I bet they couldnt survive in a year before they get swalloed up, their camel stolen and ladies kuffsed.

[Siciid85]

In berbera,

Wasn't the Muse abdalle sub sub sub clan of abdalle Ismail defeat the entire ciise muse, afgaab muse in berbera forcing them to dwell in the mountains with their baboon family affliate? get outa here son.

Tell me any other clan that has rulled zeylac, bulaxaar, berbera, ceerigabo, hawd sare, hargeisa than garxajis and whose might has stretched as far as Hiiraan? And who else in isaaq has defeated every other habar, harti including dhulbahante, warsangeli, majerteen(rer bicidyahan), Ogaden all rer abdille, rer Isaaq and Ibrahiim. none whatsoever...

One who has never ventured beyond the borders of isaaq and only confined to hargeisa and its sarounds and thinks samaroon is worhty adversary should not even speak up to garxajis whose proven track record shows their dominance. Again, I dont want to seem like primitive clanist, but lets set the record straight here and prove that paltalk educated emperior cannot rewrite his own version of clan conflict history on SNet. We know our history and we will shoot down any efforts made from your parts to belittle or hide our history. We are pride of Isaaq, Garxajis is Isaaq and Isaaq is garxajis followed closely by HJ. I admire them because they have also fought in your honor and land, unlike sacad muse who nagg like ladies from hargeisa and its sarounding territories. Its' like a dude who grew up in Beverly hills telling a dude growing up in southside chicago or Baltimore that he is tough. Good luck Emperior Blondie.

[The_Emperior5]

Garxajis were fighting two different fronts in hargeisa and Burco. In hargeisa they were fighting against the government which had all the military and capital advantage. The only victory scored against the garxajis in hargeisa however came early when government troops mostly Arap, sacad muse and abdale Isxaaq(HY) attacked ciidagle milita at the airport. However, cidagale recovered and massed a deadly counter attack even forcing Igal out of hargeisa. He was interviewed on BBC while on the run and he said and I quote " they attacked us, they attacked my villa, and I didnt even get the chance to brush my teeth". The Isxaaq carre later joined the side of cidagale and they were clear winner in hargeisa war shelling the sacad muse residential areas on daily basis. This is again despite sacad muse having support from all other Isaaq clans, samaroon, dhuloz and warsangeli. We still were able to man handle our young causins and show them a little taste of garxajis might. Offcouse we weren't motivated to fight as clan, because we knew our adversaries were close kins of ours, thus we halted after couple elbows on back of maam sacdiyo muse and she screamed hoogay o ba'aay iga qabtaay!.

However, Burco was slaughter house between two fierce clans of mostly pro govt militia from local Hj and SL army vs. H/yonis. The eastern Somalilanders are geeljire in nature and they dont fear the bullet or death. This was a real conflict where nothing was spared. Each side using anything at its disposal, bms, tanks, heavy artillery to maim the other. Later, H/yonis advanced into suuqal bari and eventually won the ground war. The reason we lost the political war was because H/yonis and garxajis in general were always pro Somaliland independence and when Gen. Ghalib and Abidrahan tuur aun decided to join Aideed in the south, then garxajis elders had no choice but to sign peace treaty with their close kins in Somaliland to avoid being reunited with Somalia. Thus ending the stalemate.

In hargeisa the ciidagalle insurgents where seen as terrorist what government are you talking about Cigaals madaxtooyo was protected by his calancass forces cigaa the millatary might was the military equipment we got from the faqash The special calan cass forces . see cigaal knew there was division among the snm, he had talks with the hj elders in hargeisa. His Super awal Cousisn of the snm Muse bixi Dhagoweyne ina xashi Where doing his work Muse bixi even trapped the ciidagale when they where fleeing Somaliland at the border of somaliland. As for the isxaaq the reer hargeisa isxaaq care where not a trouble makes. Samaroons back in the that time Where still feeling the pain when the snm captured borame.So they where just sitting in the backseat watching what was happening the only key player was Abdiraxman labba tolle. Cigaal a political genius even went as far as having the only samaroon guy to be a maryoalool. When the sacadmuse captured all of hargeisa. Axmed mire and his Hy SNM militia reached hargeisa that’s when the war started in the suuq of hargeisa., that’s when the calancas advised cigaal lets go to gabiley. But he refused he knew the calancass wanted his top seat he said bartan baan joogaya Dagaalku ha sii socdo. That’s when Muse bixi said anigu dagaal qadan karo duco qadan mayo .You fighting on 2 fronts. That’s your problem the ciise muse militia calancass forces took fully control of berbera and the insurgents of hargeisa gave them self over abdi waraabe aya damintay and the elders begged Cigaal and pulled on his beard please let the ciidagalle return and they where allowed to come back to the city to pay the suberiyaa tax.
Taarikhda been laga ma sheego. 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002. Garxajis hadla la wa marku wilki samaroon dalka qabsaday ayaad cuqdadi iyo xanuunki soo celiseen aad tirahdeen Silanyanu ka baqanayna inu na xasuuqo.

[The_Emperior5]

In berbera,

Wasn't the Muse abdalle sub sub sub clan of abdalle Ismail defeat the entire ciise muse, afgaab muse in berbera forcing them to dwell in the mountains with their baboon family affliate? get outa here son.

Tell me any other clan that has rulled zeylac, bulaxaar, berbera, ceerigabo, hawd sare, hargeisa than garxajis? none whatsoever...

Wiil yar baad tahay Muse care wayo Ciidamadi abdiraxmaan tuur watay ma muse cabdalle bay ahayeen You never ruled berbera The son of Sharmarke cali salax tried to rule it but he was killed by habarawal

Muse cabdalle ismacil care sicid garxajis isaaq abtirisintoodu waa sidaas sxb.
Waxay la simayihin Adan ciise muse suber awal sheikh isxaaq

[Siciid85]

Sharmarke was ailing man, he already ruled Zeylac which is beyond your reach even today. If you keep this up, you'll be tempting us to come back from hawd and put a skinny pole down your sacad muse rectum. Watch your mouth, moron.

Besides, Igal had the newly formed Somaliland forces fighting on his side and countless other clan militias and we were fighting two fronts, . Still he begged for peace. Go read about the conflict of berbera Col Dhagawayne and his troops were forced out of berbera and we occupied berbera for months. The peace negotions took place in Sheikh between muse abdalle and ciise muse where they signed to live side by side in peace. So who won? Muse abdalle haven't lost an inch of their land, and today we own pretty much every house of that ghost town. Emperior you said you are 19 years old, that means you were born in 1991 yet you insist on calling me a kid. See your whole world is upside down habar awal are lions where garxajis are white doves.

btw..Igal aun WAS political genius, unlike you I dont deny simple straighforward facts, he was our best politician EVER. no doubt, that is why garxajis lost the political war. He begged for peace and used abdirahman tuur's joining the South as motivation factor to unite all isaaq. That he won. The ground war however was won by garxajis hands down. Learn the facts sweety.

[The_Emperior5]

Sharmarke was ailing man, he already ruled Zeylac which is beyond your reach even today. If you keep this up, you'll be tempting us to come back from hawd and put a skinny pole down your sacad muse rectum. Watch your mouth, moron.

Besides, Igal had the newly formed Somaliland forces fighting on his side and countless other clan militias and we were fighting two fronts, . Still he begged for peace. Go read about the conflict of berbera Col Dhagawayne and his troops were forced out of berbera and we occupied berbera for months. The peace negotions took place in Sheikh between muse abdalle and ciise muse where they signed to live side by side in peace. So who won? Muse abdalle haven't lost an inch of their land, and today we own pretty much every house of that ghost town. Emperior you said you are 19 years old, that means you were born in 1991 yet you insist on calling me a kid. See your whole world is upside down habar awal are lions where garxajis are white doves.

btw..Igal aun WAS political genius, unlike you I dont deny simple straighforward facts, he was our best politician EVER. no doubt, that is why garxajis lost the political war. He begged for peace and used abdirahman tuur's joining the South as motivation factor to unite all isaaq. That he won. The ground war however was won by garxajis hands down. Learn the facts sweety.

I am not denying Sharmarke Cali Salax baashe ruled Seylac qadifal somaal I don’t discredit history but when his son tried to invade Habarawal land Maxammad sharmarke Cali We murdered him , gabaya laga tiriyey What hawd are you talking about , Do you think we don’t live in hawd the hawd you talk about We ruled it under the administration of Ethiopia even your land we collected the tax, berbera. Still you lost it doesn’t take back you lost the war , you where defeated just accept it stop the murran. I forced you to live under my Suberiyad Constitution
Habarawal took berbera from the Tuur militia and they where expelled form the city , why do you think Adan ciise run the port are the mayor of saaxil the mayor of Berbera.Even ciise muse made saaxil it did not exist back in the days cigaal turned into a gobol cutting sheikh from togdheer adding it to saaxil. The lion of Isaaq was always Superawal there is no doubt about that on political side on warfare side, ooh yeah don’t call me sweety.battyboy.

[Siciid85]

oh lord bal waayahay: waxaa la yidhi hadaan lakala roonan, roob ma da'o.

[The_Emperior5]

oh lord bal waayahay: waxaa la yidhi hadaan lakala roonan, roob ma da'o.

Maad is dhibtay wiilki habaryoonis mar walba wa is dhiba marku Wiil sacadmuse Arko
Siicdow gacmaha taag

[Siciid85]

Listen, you huuno boy Dee uunsi iyo waxaasi waa shuqul dumar. I didnt author those biases...it's fact that inaad uunsataan sida dumarka.

[The_Emperior5]

Listen, you huuno boy Dee uunsi iyo waxaasi waa shuqul dumar. I didnt author those biases...it's fact that inaad uunsataan sida dumarka.

hada wa yarki Ku laha ragga qoodha sweety cajiib
Qoodha iyo xerada iyo xininta . xininta kolay ma lihidin hadi kale ereyga maad tirahden
ma siidasad Banka qoraxay ku gaadheen
Idin dili mayo mar danbe iska noolada Intu nin habarawal noolyahay siciidow waliga qamandi dhacda cuni meysid. wa tii tolnimada