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Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:23 pm
by JaMaaL-23
Import 5 Million Chinese Uighers to Somalia

to turn it into a paradise

the skinnies will realise there is a life after war and anarchy and will imitate the new arrival's feat like they copy each other of any acheivements.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:03 pm
by king of kismayo
wallahi that is a great idea
the lazy xamar cad cad iyo bantus are useless in the 21st century
beehsa indho yar(chinese)
indho yar>dir>irir>samaal

Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:51 pm
by Narcissistic
HutuKing01 wrote:There is too much cuqdad and anger amongst somalis. I would first advice anger management and group therapy

I agree, 20 years of trauma has to be dealt with seriously.
Continuing on those lines, I would suggest developing a culturally appropriate reconciliation method much like the Kacaca system of Rwanda

Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:12 pm
by Murax
A simple immidiete step: CHANGE THE CAPITOL MOGADISHU IS CURSED
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:16 pm
by ModerateMuslim
horta, on a serious note, the real problem is the lack of islam and its laws. and this problem predates this 'anarchy'. in fact, we're closer to islan we were before the civil war and anarchy.
to rebuild sometimes you've to destroy.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:18 pm
by Voltage
I am actually baffled no one has mentioned illiteracy, ignorance, and a retrograde culture yet.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:19 pm
by Murax
Voltage wrote:I am actually baffled no one has mentioned illiteracy, ignorance, and a retrograde culture yet.
Anarchy is what fuels those ills. Take out the anarchy and those problems begin to get allieviated

Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:21 pm
by Voltage
Those things fueled anarchy. Get it straight my brother. Many people have had civil war and statelessness.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:22 pm
by dawwa9
Somalis are ignorant lazy people, that is the main cause.
Make education compulsory till the age of 18. And put all the adults to work, especially the men, by force.
Problem: Not enough money for this and Somalis will probably not like to do backbreaking work like farming and construction.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:25 pm
by Murax
Voltage wrote:Those things fueled anarchy. Get it straight my brother. Many people have had civil war and statelessness.
Those ills You speak of are prevelent all over the developing world and about 95% in Africa. However having a Government gives the citizens hope to overcome those issues.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:31 pm
by Voltage
Murax you don't know the Somali people. You will learn in time.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:33 pm
by Shonuff
Murax wrote:Voltage wrote:Those things fueled anarchy. Get it straight my brother. Many people have had civil war and statelessness.
Those ills You speak of are prevelent all over the developing world and about 95% in Africa. However having a Government gives the citizens hope to overcome those issues.
Yup. The question should be how we can build a functioning government and not how we can overcome those mentioned ills. Trying to do the latter before accomplishing the first is like trying to walk before you can crawl. To start with, we need a Somali government formed in SOMALIA and not focking Ethiopia, Kenya or Djibouti hotels. These hotel governments are destroying any hope Somalis had of ever forming an actual government. By forming a government in SOmalia, it immediately eliminates so much influence foreign players would have over the way this government is formed and the way it will exist.
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:37 pm
by Voltage
What is it about the fact Somali culture is not structured to accommodate central leadership is beyond your understanding?
Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:38 pm
by dawwa9
Shonuff wrote:Murax wrote:Voltage wrote:Those things fueled anarchy. Get it straight my brother. Many people have had civil war and statelessness.
Those ills You speak of are prevelent all over the developing world and about 95% in Africa. However having a Government gives the citizens hope to overcome those issues.
Yup. The question should be how we can build a functioning government and not how we can overcome those mentioned ills. Trying to do the latter before accomplishing the first is like trying to walk before you can crawl. To start with, we need a Somali government formed in SOMALIA and not focking Ethiopia, Kenya or Djibouti hotels. These hotel governments are destroying any hope Somalis had of ever forming an actual government. By forming a government in SOmalia, it immediately eliminates so much influence foreign players would have over the way this government is formed and the way it will exist.
Somaliland and Puntland will always act averse to this unless one of their own people is chosen as president. And this will result in all the others not liking the government like with C/Yusuf. So you will always lose out 50% of Somalia's landmass.

Re: What is the real solution for somalia's nonstop anarchy
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:41 pm
by Twisted_Logic