Imam Axmed Guray and the Habar Magaadi connection

[CoolPoisons]

War dadkan yaa wax u sheega. Ileen yarka wuxu ka xanaaqay xaqiiqda.

Ma waxa ka xanaaqdey that Noor ibn Mujahid (Marehan) was related to Ahmed gurey

teeda kale. Noor ibn Mujahid has the same taariikh as Ahmed Gurey. Labadu ruled Adal. controled Somalida iyo Oromada and defeated Habashi kings.

How was he related to Axmed guray was he his brother We all know In the history books that imam axmed iebrahien al ghazi did not had a brother called nur ibn mujaheed or what ever you wanne call him Where do you get this nonsense from Whats your source where do you get your info from Mise waad iska butacaysa dee anaga hanugu butacin sxb ama wax ku ool ah meesha la kaalay ama afkaga weyn hayso sxb

Ahmed Gurey was the adeer of Noor Mujahid. Teeda kale. it doesnt matter waayo, anaga horseed u aha barnaamijkas and Noor Mujahid has the same taariikh as Ahmed Gurey. Why do U think Noor Mujahid's called Sahib al-Fath at-Thani, or Master of the Second Conquest?

Read what this says.

[The_Emperior5]

War dadkan yaa wax u sheega. Ileen yarka wuxu ka xanaaqay xaqiiqda.

Ma waxa ka xanaaqdey that Noor ibn Mujahid (Marehan) was related to Ahmed gurey

teeda kale. Noor ibn Mujahid has the same taariikh as Ahmed Gurey. Labadu ruled Adal. controled Somalida iyo Oromada and defeated Habashi kings.

How was he related to Axmed guray was he his brother We all know In the history books that imam axmed iebrahien al ghazi did not had a brother called nur ibn mujaheed or what ever you wanne call him Where do you get this nonsense from Whats your source where do you get your info from Mise waad iska butacaysa dee anaga hanugu butacin sxb ama wax ku ool ah meesha la kaalay ama afkaga weyn hayso sxb

Ahmed Gurey was the adeer of Noor Mujahid. Teeda kale. it doesnt matter waayo, anaga horseed u aha barnaamijkas and Noor Mujahid has the same taariikh as Ahmed Gurey. Why do U think Noor Mujahid's called Sahib al-Fath at-Thani, or Master of the Second Conquest?

Read what this says.

Well let me tell you something fatuh al habas mentions Nur Iebrahien And absame nur , it does matter the connections between the ahmeds and And nur bin xussein
If u use your own source your source says Nurs name is Nur ibn mujaheed ibn cali ibn cabdulla.
In fatuh al habasha Nur iebrahien Is not Mentioned as a relative of imam axmed iebrahien al ghazi , it could of been but your source says your Nur is called Nur ibn Mujaheed ibn cali ibn cabdulla
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... ujahid.jpg
History tells us That Axmed guray the habar magaadle Chief had a brother called Nur ibn xussseyn, And that Axmed iebrahien al ghazi did not had a brother called Nur ibn Xussein, It also tels us that what u just told us that the imam could of been the uncle of Nur ibn mujaheed ibn cali ibn cabdulah Whish is nonsense If your nur is Merehan how can he be related to A non merehaan imam it doesn't make sense.

[CoolPoisons]

^^ wtf. wax aan ka fahmay haba yaratee ma jiro.

Waryaa, dont they have english for speakers of other languages courses in Europe?

[The_Emperior5]

^^ wtf. wax aan ka fahmay haba yaratee ma jiro.

Waryaa, dont they have english for speakers of other languages courses in Europe?

Its simple hadanad fahmin let me tell you again Nur ibn mujaheed you talk about in your source is called nur ibn cali ibn cabdulah, You said he is the Nephew of the imam Axmed iebrahien al ghazi i asked you how? then you said it doesent matter Then i said Nur ibn iebrahien is mentioned in fatuh al habasha but not as the uncle or relative of The imam, Do you understand now

[Siciid85]

Emperior, your right besides Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi had only 1 brother Muhammad bin Ibrahim al-Ghazi not something called Nuur, walahi am convinced 70% that Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi was never somali but a different race perhap a arabized Beja people of northern sudan as you know they have alot arab names also add to the fact he was born in zeila when it was under the arab rule, he was a muslim warrior not somali, the only somali guray we had was the habar magaadle chief Axmed guray husayn.

[LobsterUnit]

which tribe do the jairan and and the mazra belong to?

ps. i've read many sources indicating nur ibn mujahid was the nephew of imam ahmed rahimuhullah. don't know about the original futuh al habash though.

[Siciid85]

Gaajounit, Jairan and mazra beja tribes i think or atleast from the 70 various ethiopian groups, Gaajounit use your logic sxb the names don't even match the name of the Imam is Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi and he had only 1 brother Mohammed ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi , so where does Nur bin Hussain fit it in? and add to the fact Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi was born in zeila an arab ruled city by then and was never described as somali infact his race was never mentioned but close sources suggest he was a arabized people of beja current people of northern sudan the likes of Omar Bashiir etc.

[LobsterUnit]

My friend, whatever the ethnicity of the Imam, it is still a fact that he was succeeded by Nur Ibn Mujahid, who also married his widow. You can s google Nur Ibn Mujahid and you will find many sources claiming he was the nephew of the Imam. Here is one example out of many:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zpYB ... id&f=false

[Voltage]

My friend, whatever the ethnicity of the Imam, it is still a fact that he was succeeded by Nur Ibn Mujahid, who also married his widow. You can s google Nur Ibn Mujahid and you will find many sources claiming he was the nephew of the Imam. Here is one example out of many:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zpYB ... id&f=false

[Siciid85]

Gaajo, Gaajo, In fatuh al habasha and many other reliable sources such as the arab version Nur Hussain Is not Mentioned as a relative of imam axmed iebrahien al ghazi nor did they mention the clan of Axmed ibrahin al ghazi , nor his race, the only guy guray who is mentioned as somali is the habar magaadle - Isaaq chief - Axmed Guray husayn even in the arab version.

[CoolPoisons]

walle dad badan ayee meel ka buugta

Siciid iska naso adeer ileen cudurka kugu jiro inaba caadi ma ahan

[Siciid85]

Coolpoison, like i said your the 1 who is getting angry when i questioned the origins of Axmed ibn Ibrahim al ghazi which you guys use to spread propagenda in the forums. but we know for a fact Axmed ibrahim al ghazi was a guy who was born in zeila when the arabs use to rule, and in the entire history he was never directly described as a somali, the only Axmed guray somali we had is axmed guray husayn the habar magaadi chief that is the reality my friend like it or not.

[CoolPoisons]

haye habro magadi iyo balaayaha ku abtiris ha noqdaan waxay noqdaan

[Voltage]

lool using warsame as a source?

So because Warsame got his hands on the book and photocopied it, he is the source? Still the face the article looks legit and fully sourced itself?

Original source is page 18 of Dictionary of African Biography by Appiah.

[CoolPoisons]

Voltage yarku wuu isku xaaray

i use to like Siciid laakin markaan arkay inay xooga yar cuduro ka buuxan ayaan iska karbaashay