Dhulbahante Wins The Cup

[Siciid85]

This black people in the painting could be pro british dhullos for all we know.




Butoole fort

[The_Emperior5]

Babygirl do you have a proof to your claims that their clan is mentioned? do you know the picture of butoole fort those people with the earrings are the same dhullos you are talking about, i don't see anywhere where it says the horsemens are dhulloss, it could be any darawish it could be H.Y amaan nuur darawish, mad mullah darawish, sheikh sudi shabeele darawish, Ali darawish peeps so you have no proof so don't make the darawish seem like a dhulbahante tribe, when infact many of your sub clans were also with the british such as maxamud garaad.

Babygirl is full of shit she thinks Ali geri Equals All dhulbahante
Ali
geri
axmed garaad
Farax garaad
Shirshoore
Habarwaa
Cabdulle
Muuse
Siciid
Harti




How can a sub sub sub sub sub sub sub sub clan of Dhulbahante be All dhulbahante thats nonsense ali geri is like 15% of Dhulbahante And in the Book of swayne it says Ali geri joined the dervishes because of their fear they had for Maxammad cabdulla xassan

We all know the first Battle at firdidin There was only ali geri fighting with the leaders of that war suldaan nuur amaan maxammad cabdulla xassan and xaaji suudii shabelle.

[Siciid85]

Emperior, if those pictures are from 1890-1901's then it make senses it's mostly likely cidaankii Suldaan Amaan Nuur, Sayyid, Sudi shabeele, so i don't understand why is babygirl trying to claim history where most people were actually involved in she should be ashamed for trying to decieve her reer abti she should know we know more than she thinks about the dervish and where it's original struggle begin it was like this the battles in order.


1- Firdhidin
2-Gumburo
3- Daraatoole
4- Jidbaale
1- Dayax Weerar
2- Gunde Gooye
3- Ilko Cad
4- Kal Xoor
5- Gebogabo
6- Ilig Daldala
7- Baladhiig
8-Buraan
9- Hagoogane
10-Caado.

[Siciid85]

Emperior, adiiga sheekaada miyaad fahmiin miyaa? babygirl wants to daroodize the darawish struggle just like how her uncle siad bare attempted to do it, and how they also tried to daroodize the ahmed guray struggle before i busted their bubbles.


Kacaankii Maxamed Siad bare oo maal badan u huray taariikh abuuris Gacan Ku Rimis ah oo ujadeedu tahay dooxatadii Daraawiish hala "Daaroodeeyo" oo halaga dhigo halgan reerka Daaroodki ku fanaan Somalida kalana lagu duro.Waxa taariikhdaas loo adeegsaday oo lagu xalaaleeyay somali badan oo Qaranimadu ku fogtay oo aad ugu daacad ahaa Somalinimada sida Xaaji Muuse Galaal iyo abwaano badan oo xumadii 1960gii la fogaatay oo maansooyinkooda ku soo daray dooxatadii Daraawiishta isu bixisay.
Waxa la yaab ah Daaroodkii Daraawiishta ka firdhan jiray oo aad u necebaa dhiig miiratdaas oo gabyaagoodii la jiilka ahaa Daraawiishta 1899-1921 sida:
1- Cali Dhuux Adan Gurayo (Dhulos)
2- Qamaan Bulxan Yuusuf(Ogaadeen)
3- Xarbi Ismaaciil Dheere( Ogaadeen)
4- Bidhiidh( Dhulos)
5- Cilmi Raage (Ogaadeen).

Nina amaanin oo mid kaste ka qabay fikrad ahaan waxay somalida kaleba ka qabto ayaa wixii ka danbeeyay 1974kii marku ninka la yidhaahdo Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise ku qaatay qandaraaska xaaraanta ah keydinta iyo qurxinta taariikhdii madoobayd ee Daraawiishta, Akaadimiyada Fanka Iyo Suugaanta kaligii loo xil saaray ,ayaa waxa shaac baxay dabayl jacayl oo Daaroodkii jiillalkan danbe ahaa lagu soo jiitay qabyaalad iyo colaad horin ka dhan ah qabiilada kale Dir , Hawiye iyo Isaaqba , ayadoo ahayad tiirka ka danbeeyay qorista buuga odayga Kaabo Qabiil Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise ay ahayd in Daraawiishta la Daaroodeeyo oo xumaantoodii oo dhan laga dhigo "khayr" ay garan waayeen Somalidu wixii ku lidka ahaana laga dhigo Somalida kale oon Daarood ku jirin. Halku odayga Hayaag ee Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise ku dadaalayay in aan haba yaraatee wax lagu faano mooyaane inaan wax run ah laga qorin taariikhda Daraawiishta. Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise heerku qabyaalad ka gaadhay isagoo reerku ka soo jeedaba 99% Daraawiish ka soo hor jeedeen oo dagaalkii ugu horeeyay ba ayagoo Ingiiriis wato dhex maray dooxatadii Daraawiishta iyo reerk Dhulbahnate oo 350 fardoolay ah oo hogaaminayaan 3 gaal fooda laysku daray tuulada Garoowe u dhow ee Firdhidin, ayaa hadana marna xaqiiqada dhabta ah ee Daraawiishta buugiisa kaga hadal oo mar kaste ka dhigayaa Dhulbahnate inay wada ahaayeen Taabiciiyiin muxaafida ah oo ah askar indho iyo dhago l'a oo Ustaadka ku saliya.
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Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise 2diisii buug ee Maxamed Afweyne shaanbada kacaanka ugu dhuftay hadii diraasad lagu sameeyo oo la barbar dhigo qoraaladii ugu horeeyay ee Ingiriisku qoray sida:
1- Douglas Jardin ,The Mad Mullah Of Somaliland.
2-In the Grip of the Mullah. A Tale of Adventure in Somaliland.
3- Sun Sand and Somal, Henry Rayne.
Farqiga u dhexeeya qof kaste waa dareemi karaa, markay lid ku tahay ujeedada Daaroodaysan sidii dagaalkii Taleex , markaste Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise waa ka leexiyaa xaqiiqada si aanu barnaamijku is burin. Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise oo waayadan danbe huwan hulaab Somalinimo burburkii dawladii Maxamed Afweyne ka dib ayaa hada wuxu isku difaacaa inu waagaas u waxan keydinaayay aanu meelo fara badan wax ka eegin oo "jibo" haysay "ama Saar Daraawiish", Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise marna ma waraysan Somalidii kale ee Daraawiishta soo gaadhay ama Daraawiishtaba ka mid ahaa sida :
1- Maxamud Daallin (1860-1990)
2- Darwiish Cabdi Warsame "Dheere" 1878-1986.
3- Sheeko Xariir.
Aw Jaamac taas ka sokow marna taariikh ku sheegiisa uma soo adeegsan daliil ka baxsan sheekooyinka odayaasha reerkiisa ah marku soo daliishadana waa mar ay u haboontay oo tiisa u rabo daryeelaysa "selective refrences".

Inkastoo aad loo buunbuuniyo Daraawiish ku sheega oo la yidhaahdo Gaalay la dagalaami jireen 20 sanadood , xaqiiqadu waxa weeyaan wax ka yar 3 sanadood iyo 4 isku tuur tuur oo u badnaa ku dhufo oo ka dhaqaaq bay Daraawiish iyo ciidamadii Somali iyo Ingiriis isku haleeleen. Mudadu dagaalku socday waxay ahayd 1901-1904 dagaalna kama danbayn 1904kii oo Daraawiishtu waxay hoos tageen Muxamiyada Talyaaniga ooy heshiis la galeen ka dibna Duflaal Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan iyo ninkii Daraawiishta u xaajoonayay ee Xaaji Cabdilaahi Shixiri ku dhawaaqeen heshiis ah " I and My People are the Italian people" aniga iyo umadayduba waa umad Talyaani. Halkaas ayuu ku dhamaaday wixii u bixiyay Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise "jihaad" isaga iyo odayga Faarax Idaajaa oo isna BBC da ka afuufi jiray Taariikhda Kacaanku jeclaa inay Somalida maqashiiyaan ooy ka dhaadhicyaan , Idaajaa waa ninka ku caan baxay BBC da in u sheeko kaste iyo gabay Kaste u badiyo Daarood oo u xataa marku Daaroodka kale hadal hayo xoogaa yar oo 2 Mareexaan ah ku dhex tuuro oo marmarka qaarkiiba ilaaabo ujeedu u socday 15ka midhidhna kaga dhamaadaan isagoo Faarax Afcad ama hebelo kale oo Mareexaan ah dhex xulaya.
Duluucda qoraalkan ma aha in si faafaahsan aan uga hadlo taariikhdii dooxatada Daraawiish, se ayadoo kooban baan marka hore hordhac ahaan umuyaa u maqashiin ka dibna dhacdaddi Taleex iyo dagaalkii Hagoogane ee ugu danbeeyay ku soo af jari.

[The_Emperior5]

1- Firdhidin
2-Gumburo
3- Daraatoole
4- Jidbaale

Only these four battles There were british involved and Ethiopians all the others were pure clan raidings




Firdhidin Was the fist Battle of the dervishes that was one of the battles The British were involved fighting against the dervishes It’s the first battle when sultan nur amaan xaaji suudi shabeele warsame and Maxammad cabdulla xassan It was when the dervishes started, and Getting alliances from all kind of clans From adan madoobe to H.y subclans and cali geri of the dhulbahante its also the first battle when the Dhulbahante of the mahamuud garaad a group of 300 horsemen joined Col Swayne to attack suldan nur amaan and Maxammad cabdulla xassan
The second battle took place at daraatoole in Ethiopia Sultaan nuur amaan and xaji suudii shabelle and maxammad cabdulle xassan left Danoot for daratoole in deep in side Ethiopia Later they went with their troops and raided jigjiga I quoted from a book the raiders that took part of in jigjiga were mostly from the habarjeclo tribes and habaryunis and the dhulbahante This was When the dervishes fought xabashida .

Gumburro was the battle when ina cabdilla xassan and his dervishes raided the hayaag and the reer hagar Maxammad cabdulla xassan and his Troops stole over 1000s of camels from the dhulbahante Who were seeking help from the British they wanted protection from the British they asked assistance from colonel -Lieutenant Walsh the British Colonel The raiders were mainly from Maxamamd cabdulla xassans clan the makahil of the ogaden Adan madoobe and cali geri of the dhulbahante. This was when The British Col said in the book of the mad mullah of Somaliland that The ali geri feared the mullah and that’s why they supported him
The jidbaale war took also place that’s when Xaji sudii shabelle and maxamamd cabdulla xassan and suldaan nuur amaan gained lots of New recruitments and raided Jidbaale The army was over 5000 troops this was when the Nur ahmed became members of the dervishes and xassan ugaas of the dhulbahante and Muse abokor of the hj in that battle the dervishes lost lots of men, the British army was also damaged , this was also when Risaadlr Major Xaaji Muse farah igarre lost his Cumamaad in the battle he went back and got his cumamaad
And in 1904 cabdulahi shirixi a hj adan madoobe signed the ilig treaty and let the dervishes movement become under Italian protectorate the Treaty was signed in Yemen

After that treaty Darawish never raided no British camps no British strongholds they never harmed a single English maxammad cabdulla xassan was busy making Poems lol xaaji suudi shabelle even left Somaliland and went to sudan once Sultan Nuur amaan went to yemen to buy new arabian horses , but they wanted to raid the Somali clans in Somaliland And in Ethiopia
Dayax weerar was when the dervishes raided The ciidagalle , the dervishes stole over 2000 Camels from the ciidagalle, but the dervishes lost lots of men stealing those camels

Gunda gooye was when the British raided the Maxamamd suber of the ogaden gabaya laga tiriye The maxamamd suber gave a good ass whooping to the dervishes and the dervishes lost lots of men the ogaden poets even made even poems about it

Kala xoor was when the dervishes raided the Muse care clan they tried to steal camels from the Muse care clan risaaldr Muse farah igare armed the muse farah against the dervishes and they were pushed back but the dervishes didn’t rest they attacked at night and stole camels from the muse care hy
Gabagobe was when the dervishes tried to attack the Fiqshini and the jamac siyaad in yagoori But u know the cayr the cayr were surprised and said why are these guys attacking us Who are these gangs the dervishes left, 2 weeks after the raid against the fiqishini the dervishes raided the reer hagar and the reer hagar of the dhulbahante said cali geri u stole our camels buhoodle wadda joogi meyno that’s when there were clashes between reer hagar and cali geri axmed wa marku cali dhuux gabayada baddan tirinin jiray

Ilig daldala was the funniest of them all this was when the dervishes attacked the ciise riyoole of the majeerteen the dervishes were hoping for a camel raid but they saw goats ina cabdila xassan even made a poem about it ma ana adhiyo dhaca iyo kuwa aan geela dhaqin eh lol

Balidhiig was when the dervishes attacked the habarjeclo reer daahir and wanted to sumbit them under dervishism a big battle Took place Caaqilki reer daahirka was wounded in that battle No camels were stolen from the reer daahir , salaan carabey even made a poem about how they pushed back the Darawiish

Buuraan was when the dervishes attacked the warsangali near buuraan they were attacked from 3 sides north west and south , maxamuud cali shire turned his clan against the darawish when Ina cabdulla xasssan appointed a habarjeclo an adan madoobe called Iebrahien xaji maxammad the governer of lasqoray ina cali shire became mad and said how can u appoint a habarjeclo be the governer of lasqoray when they shot me in the ass 2 years ago The muse abokor hj shot maxamuud cali shire in the ass before that and maxammad cabdulla xassan said whats wrong with you we are fighting against ingrees maxa habarjeclo keenay lol, At the same year Ali darwiish on his own with a force mainly from his gadhweyn attacked The left overs of eastern sanaag of the anti darwiish warsangalis and majeerteen in bari and their British protectors and that’s when ina cabdulla xassan made the poem called Duca awliyaad bu qabba degaha turwaye wa niman gaalada del dela
Last but not least Xaaji waraabe And muse farah igare wanted to make an end of darwiish raidings of local clans and organized the battle of hagoogane and knocked on the doors of taleex Xaaji warabe commanding over 5000 troops mainly from the hj and hy and ciise muse and ciidagalle and even from the dhulbahante with their horses and camels raided the forts of taleex and stole over 100.000 of camels and all their horses and made an end of the darwishm, we took all the wealth of the derviishes.

[udun]

In losing land for the past 150 years

now lets sum it all up towns and cities lost

Dhulbahante lost
Garadag
Ceelafweyn
Jidbaale
Quriluqud
Caynabo
Bohol
Oog
Gummeys
And they lost awr boogeys To warsangali i mean to warsangali how do u do it

i am impressed
and ther are like 5 other towns that became shared towns

Typical Iidoor cantra baqash. Iidoor was always present in the areas they listed. They just happened to be our slaves until they were freed by the British. The Sacad Yoonis they mentioned used to carry "saalo" from our fardo. It is wellknown history that they were the foot soldiers of Afhakame. Majority of wells in Nugaal were either digged by Sacad Yoonis or gallas. That is a known fact. Iidoors like to concote history and like to repeat it.

There was a time in history where one Dhulbahante suggested that they killed the only 40 Sacad Yoonis living that time and one guy stated that the "our daughters and sisters who are their mothers will cry so let them live". This has happened around 1850s. As a matter fact, they have always been an Iidoor clan who lived amongst us. They have moved away after the British empire concurred the territory.

Besides, these Iidoors are Ethiopian colony and they want to brag about Kashmir. If you get off the Hargeisa airport today, you will meet with Ethiopian Intelligence officers who would interview you.

BTW, these idiots who are Garhajis who constantly repeat this cantra baqash were defeated in 1995 by HJ and HA AND were forced to accept SL. I remember all of the Suldaans of HY going around Las Anod, Badhan, Boosaaso, Garoowe, Galkacayo, Galdogob and Caabud waaq and asking Daaroods to help them their fight agianst HJ ansd HA. All of the Daarood clans refused and told them if you want us to mediate you, we will but we will not take sides in internal Iidoor conflict. After that they run into General Aideed and asked him about his help. He gave them some weopans and they were defeated. listen idiots, you have been conquered and forced to accept SL, and as a result, you are the last people who can brag about that I-Love-Gaalo-Land.

[Siciid85]

Udun, propagenda badana sxb Sacad yoonis never lived among the dhullos not until the late 1950-1970's that is when they made the expansion to nugaal and xudun area i think your mistaking sacad yoonis for another sub clan but they never had any strong ties with the dhulbahante and what sisters and mothers are you talking about? sacad yooni's reer abti are not even qurijile , sacad yoonis were brave fighters and always independent and they weren't even allied with their bigger muse ismaaciil cousins, it shows they were independent and always strong sub clan.

This is from the book called - EXPEDITION TO THE NOGAL VALLEY,

By Lieutenant E. J. E. Swayne.

Swayne describes sacad yoonis as troublesome tribe.

"place. Also, we were gradually nearing Bur Dab, a blue hazy mass of hills, becoming more distinct and bolder as we advanced—the reputed rendezvous of a large band of robbers recruited from the Musa Abokr, Sad Yunis, and Mahmud Gerad, three very turbulent sub-tribes."

When badweyn use to be ararsame garaad but today is a sacad yoonis settlement, ararsame garaad no longer live in badhweyn they have been displaced into las anod area.

"At Badwein, in the centre of that part of the Nogal Valley which is occupied by the Arasama sub-tribe, we discovered extensive ruins of an ancient city, and close by a large tank quarried out of the gypsum rock."


And this poem is from when they attacked the british in berbera



Qoladayda ninkii doonayow, qaali baan ahaye
Qardhaasa cadde Sacad Yoonisoo, qoodhiyaan ahaye
Qacda waaga nimankii Berbera, qoomay baan ahaye

Ingiriiska nimankii qabtey, ee qaawiyaan ahaye
Qasnadiha iyo rakuubkii raggii, qaybsadaan ahaye
Hadaannu isu soo qaadanona, naguma qaybaanee
Qadaad tiirintooda ha arkinee qaado hadalkayga.




and don't make me bring poems and videos of the karbash they gave you in Hudun and many other areas in the 1990's and what defeat are you talking about nobody forced nobody it was stalemate between Cigaal and the H.Y's militia he never captured any inch of H.Y land, it was finally in 1997 that peace was restored nobody won , marka go learn history qurijile boy.





The Somaliland Guurti on sacad yoonis as can you see it's mostly sacad yoonis who are killing other people especially barkhaad.



Waxan halkan idiinku soo gudbinayana illa hadda wax-yaabaha u qabsoomay Wufuudii Golaha Guurtidda ee hawl-galka nabad-siinta ah u tagay Degmooyinka Caynabo, Xuddun, Yagoori & Ceel-Af-weyn.



1) Aaga Degmooyinka Caynbo, Xudun & Yagoori.
Reer Ciye oo Jaamac Siyaad ah kana dilay hal nin Reer Bare ahaana kiis culus waa la dhammaystiray, waxana la kala qaatay Axankii & Kafankii.
Sacad Yoonis-Reer Barkhad & Khaalid oo ay Sacad Yoonisku dileen nin Khaalid ah muddo fogna ahayd, markii ay maqleen in Guurti ay joogto oogna yimid, waxa laga gaadhay iyana dhex-dhexaadin & heshiisiin rasmi ah waxana loo kala qaaday Axankii & Kafankii, wixii kalana in ay isa siiyaan ayaa lagu heshiisiiyay oo ay ku muddaysteen.
Reer Iidle dhexdooda oo kala dhagaroobay ayaa iyana lagu heshiisiiyay, laguna so oaf-jaray khilaafkoodii.
Saddex dil oo ay gaysteen Cali Bare ayaa iyana la dhammeeyay, iyadoo la siiyay Axankii & Kafankiiba Beelihii ay ka dileen.
Intaasi oo dhan Toddoba dil (7dil) waa la dhammaystiray waana la sugay dhammaystirkooda .

Waxa gacanta lgu hayaa oo gaba-gaba ku dhaw Sagaal dil oo kale oo dhex-maray:-

ü Shan dil oo Cali Bare ku leeyay Reer Yoonis oo Reer Bare.
ü Laba dil oo Cali Bare ku leeyahay Reer Warsame (Jaamac Siyaad)
ü Hal dil oo Jaamac Siyaad ku leeyahay Cumar (H/Jeclo).
ü Hal dil oo Cali Faarax (H/Jeclo) ku leeyahay Reer Cilmi (Dhul-bahante).

2) Aaga Ceel-Af-weyn


Degaankaasi oo ay horena Guurtiddu uga hawl-gashay, wuxu noqday kan ugu dhibaato badan marka laga eegayo xal-ka gaadhida dhacdooyinka dilalaka ah ee dhexmaray Bulshada Degaamadaasi, waxana u sabab ah duruufo u gaar ah oo uu kaga duwan yahay meelo badan.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, waxa wefidigii Guurtidda ee hawl-galka halkaasi u joogay u suurta galay in ay go'aamo heshiisiin ah ka gaadhaan, dhacdadii Bixin oo ka dhaxaysay Axmed Faarax Biciida Vs Basanbuur oo isku haystay muddo dheerba nin ku dhintay Shil Baabuur.

Dhinaca kale waxa iyana ay hawsheedii gacanta ku hayaan dilal iyo dhimasho ka dhexeeya Sacad Yoonis-Idarays Vs Iidla- Biciidle, sidoo kale Bahi Bicide Vs Sacad Yoonis-Idarays , Xaamud Turwaa Vs Baho-.

Waxa intaas u dheer iyaga oo gurmad nabadayn ah ka sammeeyay iska hor-imaad ka dhashay jid-gooyo oo dhex-mary Sacad Yoonis Vs B/ugaas (Warsangali) kana dhacday Darar-weyne kuna dhintay nin Abdi Samatar - Sacad Yoonis ahi, ka dibna ay Sacad Yooniskiina soo af-duubeen rag Warsangali ah.

Xubnihi wefdiga Guurtidda ee Aagaasi Ceel-Af-weyn ku sugnaa hawl-adag ayay ka sammeeyeen oo Gurmad ah dhacdadaasi, waxayna arrintii ku dhaw-dahay in ay ku dhamaato is-af-garad.

Wixii dambe ee wax-qabad ah ee u suurta galla wufuuda waxa aynu heli doonaa marka ay wufuudu soo gaba-gabeeyaan hawl-galadani.

Arrimaha hawl-galadaasi ma dhib yara, waayo dad wakhtiyo hore wax kala gaadheen ayaa la dhex-dhexaadinyaa, kuwaasi oon intooda badani diyaar ba u ahayn in ay gashi baxaan, mana aha dhacdooyin qoyan oo la is-hor fadhiyo, oo ay dhincayadu u baahan yihiin wax kala dhex-gala oo wax kala yidhaahda.



Sababahaasi iyo qaar kale ayaana hawlaha dheeraynaya, sida looga soo dhaqaaqaana aad bay u adag tahay, waxana ay u baahan tahay gurmad dhqaale oo loo sii wado.

Waxan Illaahay ka rajaynana inuu u soo fududeeyo hawlahaasi kuna soo dhammaystiraan is-af-garad iyo heshiisiin laga dhex-dhaliyo Beelaha Degaamadaasi.

Allah Mahad Leh



Sacad yoonis killed many maxamud garaads in the civil war such as the battles of Xudun, Laf weyne, sanirgarood


SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007).".

[udun]

Believe it or not Idarays and Jibriil Xasan has historically lived among us. They were the foot soldiers of Afxakame and actually dug most of the wells in all of Nugaal.

Sacad Yoonis has never replaced Ararsame Garaad. You folks are misqouting history. Actually, the 1st Isaaqs who were settlers of that land were HJ - Musa Obokor. HY misqoute history and tried to suit HY thinking, kkkk. I used to hear never argue with HY. They are known to be "Wax walba anaa ah". As a matter fact, historically, Sacad Yoonis has always lived with Dhulbanahante Ugaadhyahan and Jaamac Siyaad and have actually started settling areas that you mentioned at the turn of British empire's conquest in that land. Most of them moved away from inner Nugaal after skirmishes they have had with dhulbahante. I have grown up as a young man in Nugaal where we always have sacad Yoonis and some Muusa Care among us. As a matter fact, until recently, they were regarded as part of dhulbahante. So, your claim that they are displaced Ararsame Garaad is bogus. After they moved away from us, they settled among HJ - Musa Obokor.

If you talk about battle fields, rest assured, I will bring more than you can. Keep in mind Sacad Yoonis are never a threat to us without HJ present. They have never launched any offensive of their own without HJ being the majority of the fighting force. Dhulbahante Mohamud Garaad killed more Sacad Yoonis and HJ Musa Obokor in the battles of Bohol, Darar Weyne, Fadhi Gaab, Dab Xidig, Bad weyn, God Heeli, Shoodhe, Ceel Afweyn, and Oog. Dhulbahante actaually took 3,000 Camels in the battles that took place in Good Caanood. You folks want to write your version of history and we are going to write it our own and match any idiocy that you come up.

Yes, it is a fact HY were crushed in the Habar Habar fight and you went to all of the Daarood cities, requested Daarood help from Daarood elders, and you were told that we are not going to take sides in Isaaq conflict. The only guy who offered you help was General Aideed of HG and that was not helpful. So, you have been forced to accept and believe in SL. Proof: your former leader Abdirahman tuur said in Mogadishu Stadium that we have abandoned secession and we want federation when Habar Habar fights were on. After you folks were crushed, you have accepted SL and ironically bragging about it. Let HJ and HA brag about it but you folks were crushed and forced to accept it. You see us Dhulbahante, unlike HY, we are still resisting and we shall inshallah be victorious, loooooooool.

[Siciid85]

Emperior, dhulbahantuhu markay sacad yoonis arkan masaajidaday buuxiyeen meel xudun la yidhaahdo. they all go to the masjid. markay masjidka ku jiran waxa afkooda kaa soo baxa waa "abtiyaal mantaa ha nalaynina, abtiyaal mantaa noo dhaafa" he doesn't also know the only maxamud garaad nalaaye axmed minister in somaliland lost 5 of his brothers and 2 of his cousins to the xudun killing spree when the whole damn village was burned down by the S.Y - SNM at that time while the Muse ismaaciils were doing more karbash in jidaale, erigavo, xingalool , yube.


Udun, furthermore Jert miyaad ilowdey qoodho taag? waxay waxa yar uu jirta lafwayne, wana sanka koora tuunshe. waa goobtee Col. Xasan Libaaxe kugu karbeeshey ee boqol wiil oo dhulbahante ah duhur dharaareed dhegta dhiiga uu diray.
Miyad ilowdey Dogoble iyo tii kaa qabsatay? lafaha dhulbahantaa geelaa kalmo looga dhigan jirey, taasna waxa duhur dharaareed dhegta dhiiga kugu daray Col. Xasan libaaxe iyo gashanle sare. sucudi Allale

Miyaad ilowdey maalintii Raamaale? Miyaad malmihii Berkedahaa kulaaleed iyo Awrboogays?v:lol:
Miyaad ilowday maalintii xudun ee aad masjidkaa wada gasheen iyo tii idinkaa qabsatay? waxay dhehen wanu cibaadaysanaynaa ee ha nalaynina abtiyaal

Miyaad ilowdey Reer Cawer Sacad Yoonis tii ay ku sameeyeen garaadadiinaa reer Hagar? Duhur caday bay kaa faraa maroorsadeen labo kun oo halaad markaasbay welibaa ugu sii heeseen geeli " ninba galabu garad cali yahay garaacuudanee anaa galabtaan garad cali ahay" ki dhulbahantee gabyayeyna waatu lahaa hararsamebaa saw reer caweer caawin kama qaadin.

tiro ma leh inta jeer Sacad yoonis dhubahantee karbaashay just like Muse ismaaciils did in erigavo.



Unlike you udun i provide sources.


Sacad yoonis killed many maxamud garaads in the civil war such as the battles of Xudun, Laf weyne, sanirgarood


SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007).".

[The_Emperior5]

In losing land for the past 150 years

now lets sum it all up towns and cities lost

Dhulbahante lost
Garadag
Ceelafweyn
Jidbaale
Quriluqud
Caynabo
Bohol
Oog
Gummeys
And they lost awr boogeys To warsangali i mean to warsangali how do u do it

i am impressed
and ther are like 5 other towns that became shared towns

Typical Iidoor cantra baqash. Iidoor was always present in the areas they listed. They just happened to be our slaves until they were freed by the British. The Sacad Yoonis they mentioned used to carry "saalo" from our fardo. It is wellknown history that they were the foot soldiers of Afhakame. Majority of wells in Nugaal were either digged by Sacad Yoonis or gallas. That is a known fact. Iidoors like to concote history and like to repeat it.

There was a time in history where one Dhulbahante suggested that they killed the only 40 Sacad Yoonis living that time and one guy stated that the "our daughters and sisters who are their mothers will cry so let them live". This has happened around 1850s. As a matter fact, they have always been an Iidoor clan who lived amongst us. They have moved away after the British empire concurred the territory.

Besides, these Iidoors are Ethiopian colony and they want to brag about Kashmir. If you get off the Hargeisa airport today, you will meet with Ethiopian Intelligence officers who would interview you.

BTW, these idiots who are Garhajis who constantly repeat this cantra baqash were defeated in 1995 by HJ and HA AND were forced to accept SL. I remember all of the Suldaans of HY going around Las Anod, Badhan, Boosaaso, Garoowe, Galkacayo, Galdogob and Caabud waaq and asking Daaroods to help them their fight agianst HJ ansd HA. All of the Daarood clans refused and told them if you want us to mediate you, we will but we will not take sides in internal Iidoor conflict. After that they run into General Aideed and asked him about his help. He gave them some weopans and they were defeated. listen idiots, you have been conquered and forced to accept SL, and as a result, you are the last people who can brag about that I-Love-Gaalo-Land.

Wrong u lost gar adag in the in the middle of the 19 century There were no British the sicid qamax you brag about used to make poems from there afxakame and salax is where they got their Meher done You lost it now and days it’s a Muse abokor Settle ment U lost Quriluqud your elders acknowledge that and said we lost so many land in hawd region we cant lose galgal which is 15 km away from Buhoodle. Sxb hargeisa belongs to me burco belongs to me ceerigabo belongs to me berbera belongs to me laascanood belongs to me this is all my land , There are no Ethiopians I collect the tax As for habaryoonis Fighting against their brothers habarawal Iidoorku wa is dilla xabbaday iskala dallaan Laakin shisheeyo iskuma soo kaxaystaan its against our Traditional ways Bohold is like 25 km away from xudun xudun manta sacadyoonis ba daaqa that’s the biggest town that belongs to naaleye axmed naaleeye axmed degmo kale ama maagaalo kale ma laha gar adag naaleye axmed ba lahaan jiray caynabo na axmed garaad ba lahaan jiray meeeday labbadi ba laga qaad, bal maxaad ku kaftami wakaas eh

[udun]

Emperior, dhulbahantuhu markay sacad yoonis arkan masaajidaday buuxiyeen meel xudun la yidhaahdo. they all go to the masjid. markay masjidka ku jiran waxa afkooda kaa soo baxa waa "abtiyaal mantaa ha nalaynina, abtiyaal mantaa noo dhaafa" he doesn't also know the only maxamud garaad nalaaye axmed minister in somaliland lost 5 of his brothers and 2 of his cousins to the xudun killing spree when the whole damn village was burned down by the S.Y - SNM at that time while the Muse ismaaciils were doing more karbash in jidaale, erigavo, xingalool , yube.


Udun, furthermore Jert miyaad ilowdey qoodho taag? waxay waxa yar uu jirta lafwayne, wana sanka koora tuunshe. waa goobtee Col. Xasan Libaaxe kugu karbeeshey ee boqol wiil oo dhulbahante ah duhur dharaareed dhegta dhiiga uu diray.
Miyad ilowdey Dogoble iyo tii kaa qabsatay? lafaha dhulbahantaa geelaa kalmo looga dhigan jirey, taasna waxa duhur dharaareed dhegta dhiiga kugu daray Col. Xasan libaaxe iyo gashanle sare. sucudi Allale

Miyaad ilowdey maalintii Raamaale? Miyaad malmihii Berkedahaa kulaaleed iyo Awrboogays?v:lol:
Miyaad ilowday maalintii xudun ee aad masjidkaa wada gasheen iyo tii idinkaa qabsatay? waxay dhehen wanu cibaadaysanaynaa ee ha nalaynina abtiyaal

Miyaad ilowdey Reer Cawer Sacad Yoonis tii ay ku sameeyeen garaadadiinaa reer Hagar? Duhur caday bay kaa faraa maroorsadeen labo kun oo halaad markaasbay welibaa ugu sii heeseen geeli " ninba galabu garad cali yahay garaacuudanee anaa galabtaan garad cali ahay" ki dhulbahantee gabyayeyna waatu lahaa hararsamebaa saw reer caweer caawin kama qaadin.

tiro ma leh inta jeer Sacad yoonis dhubahantee karbaashay just like Muse ismaaciils did in erigavo.



Unlike you udun i provide sources.


Sacad yoonis killed many maxamud garaads in the civil war such as the battles of Xudun, Laf weyne, sanirgarood


SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007).".

These are the battles which we Dhulbahante - Mohamud Garaad (MG) have crashed SNM: Bohol (twice), Darar Weyne, Fadhi Gaab (twice), Dab Xidig, Bad weyn, God Heeli, Shoodhe, Ceel Afweyn, Caynaba, and Oog. Dhulbahante actaually took 3,000 Camels in the battles that took place in Good Caanood.

The HY - Sacad Yoonis that you keep mentioning have never been a threat and did not conduct any offensive against us. They were always attached to HJ. As a matter fact, The reer Caweer you mentioned which is a sub clan of Jibriil Hassan - Sacad Yoonis were decimated in the battles of Bohol and Damala Xagare. We all remember that over the 200 Iidoors killed in Damala Xagare, 38 were from this small sub clan. They died because their camels were looted by Dhulbahante - MG and they committed all of their men to the fight in order to recover those camels. They were all killed. As a matter fact, there are no more than 40 men in this subclan living today. Nin wax ogi hakuu waramo.

In the battle of Bohol that took place in Bohol 1n 1989, 71 men were killed, out of the 71, 40 were Sacad Yoonis. Despite being a small clan, they have paid heavy price due to their close proximity to Dhulbahante - MG areas.

We also know many of HY who died in the battles of Dab Xidig, Shoodhe, God Caanood, Fadhi Gaab, Oog, and God Heeli. God Heeli battle in early 1989 is the place where over 130 SNM fighters were killed and there were many HY included in the SNM force that were massacred. As a matter fact, people talked about how it was miracle that the Dhulbahante - MG force did not have any significant casualties. There were 6 JS wounded. The SNM force was in motion and Dhulbahante - MG force's reconnaisance saw them. The Dhulbahante force took up position in a different location than they were expected and as soon as the SNM force get closer, they were all hit once. The SNM technicals run away from the fighters since they knew that they were ambushed and had no place to take cover. Many of the SNM fighters met their fate. The major casualties on the SNM side occurred because of their technicals running away from the foot soldiers.

I just can't believe Iidoors are claiming the battle of Xingalool, a Warsangeli town. The fact is majority of the SNM force that attacked that town was HJ and there were no HY contingent and if there were any, they were small. Warsangeli fought fiercely that the SNM fighting force were killed, captured, and the rest were chased away.

On the Sanaag front, SNM were kicked out of Erigavo 8 times. There is one time people counted 350 dead Iidoors in the city. There is no Iidoor death that matches these casualties than the casualties they suffered in Hargeisa. In Jiidali, they attacked 6 times and were all chased. There was even a time where a Major Warsangeli force + Dhulbahante + Sanaag Sawaakhroon overran SNM force at the bottom of the Mountain.

The last battle that we Dhulbahante - MG and Warsangeli had with SNM was the battle of the Soolka Damala-Xagare. It was a decisive defeat that SNM force lost over 200 men and HY Bari never lifted a finger since then. If any HY - Iidoor is presenting any facts about the battles, we challenge them to present any truthful facts about this defeat they have suffered. We challenge them because it is a battle they have yet to lift a finger in return of that crushing defeat. We challenge them because after this battle, they started begging for peace.

[Siciid85]

Dude at the end of the day they achieved their goal and mission which was to kick and karbash dhullos out of sanaag and annihilating them, and tell capital of sanaag - Erigavo fully being under somaliland, you can't defeat something when you fled the whole sanaag.



"The final meeting between the
two parties in this sequence
took place just over a year
later, from the 5th to the 9th of
November 1992, when a large
number (approximately 400
delegates) of Warsangeli and
Habar Yoonis-bari met in the
town of Jiidali. Jiidali had long
been a Dhulbahante town, but
the Habar Yoonis had occupied
the area after the Dhulbahante
retreat to Sool following the
Damalahagare conflict. For
this reason, the Dhulbahante
were offended when the town
was selected as the venue for
the meeting and subsequently
held a grudge against the
Warsangeli for agreeing to
meet there (Gees, 2007b).


Again the dhulbahantes attacked.


SNM militia based in Kulmiye in Sanaag, attacked Dhulbahante civilians in
Dararweyne, Hudun and Sanirgood. Dhulbahante civilians were captured and some were killed in custody,
which caused long-standing grievances among the Dhulbahante (Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007)."




The victorious.






and the losers.

[udun]

How come you were begging us for peace in the 1990s if you what you claim is true. The photos of Erigavo is your section so do I care?

We had the last victory in the battle of Damala Xagare after anihilating your fighting force. After that defeat, you have proved who you are which is being Iidoor starte begging us for peace when you felt that you were down.

The Buuhoodle video is guubaabo and is all about kicking the self hating Soomaali Diid cancer out of territory. It is great thing that my fellow cousins are talking about it.

It does worries many of you Iidoor co-horts who need some ass kicking from us for every 20 years.

[Siciid85]

Don't hate it's not my fault you got kicked out of sanaag and you are pratically nothing in Erigavo and never allowed to be mayors or governors that shows your minority limited power.

[udun]

Don't hate it's not my fault you got kicked out of sanaag and you are pratically nothing in Erigavo and never allowed to be mayors or governors that shows your minority limited power.

Do you know inna Dan la'aan? That is my mayor in Erigavo. Go and ahead and do something to him if your so-called HY dares to touch him.

Tiris baad meesha ku haysaa iyo nac nac.

The decisive defeat in Soolka Damala Xagare that killed over 200 Iidoors will be something that will be repeated in the history books. The so-called HY-Bari never lifted a finger since that crushing defeat.

The Kickout of so-called HY-Musa Ismaaciil from Masagan by Bah Cabadalle, a subclan of Naalaye Axmed, when the so-called HY-Musa Ismaaciil did not lift a finger and walked away as if they are widows whose livestock were looted is something that will be repeated in the history books.

The chasing of 70 HY-Urursuge and Cabdi Xaamud by 15 Bah Riighaye, a subclan of Naalaye Axmed, from Biya Guduud in 2008 is testimount to the fule guul and cowardice of so-called Eastern HY.