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Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:59 am
by qardasay
Tawheed - Fundamentals of Faith
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Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:54 pm
by Voltage
James Dahl a lot of things do not add up concerning what you told me about yourself and your background and how you conduct yourself in debating many matters.
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:19 pm
by James Dahl
Voltage wrote:James Dahl a lot of things do not add up concerning what you told me about yourself and your background and how you conduct yourself in debating many matters.
What sort of things?
I am only really beginning to read more about religion, so people shouldn't take what I say very seriously.
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:10 am
by Salahuddiin
James Dahl wrote:Voltage wrote:James Dahl a lot of things do not add up concerning what you told me about yourself and your background and how you conduct yourself in debating many matters.
What sort of things?
I am only really beginning to read more about religion, so people shouldn't take what I say very seriously.
Then you should change your style of bringing your point. From your writing one gets a feeling that you think you are educating us and telling us how it is while the actual points in your argument show that you really don't have much knowledge about what you are saying (your claims about Qur'aan and Islaam).
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:27 am
by abdalla11
surah 26 verse 105
The people of Nûh (Noah) belied the Messengers.
Nuh was sent to his people and they didn't believe in him, so they've only denied Nuh but it is as if they've denied all Messengers. This verse clearly proves that if you deny one prophet/messenger then you've denied them all.
This goes for the people of 'Aad and Thamoed.
Besides you are either a muslim or a Kafir.
He it is Who created you, then some of you are disbelievers and some of you are believers
Surah 62-2
Shirib had a good point. The jews also believe in only one God but they are not muslim
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:54 am
by SultanOrder
abdalla11 wrote:
Besides you are either a muslim or a Kafir.
This is not true bro, don't say that. There are believers, hypocrites, kafirs who are those who reject islam and go against it or try to conceal it's truth, and then there are those whom islam hasn't reached in a clear and pure way that hasn't been adultrayted and they are not considered kafirs and we cannot say they will go to hell.
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:43 pm
by James Dahl
Salahuddiin wrote:James Dahl wrote:Voltage wrote:James Dahl a lot of things do not add up concerning what you told me about yourself and your background and how you conduct yourself in debating many matters.
What sort of things?
I am only really beginning to read more about religion, so people shouldn't take what I say very seriously.
Then you should change your style of bringing your point. From your writing one gets a feeling that you think you are educating us and telling us how it is while the actual points in your argument show that you really don't have much knowledge about what you are saying (your claims about Qur'aan and Islaam).
I just know what I've read so far in the Qu'ran and elsewhere, like I've read a book on Kabbalah and researched early Christianity.
Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:08 pm
by Voltage
James Dahl wrote:Voltage wrote:James Dahl a lot of things do not add up concerning what you told me about yourself and your background and how you conduct yourself in debating many matters.
What sort of things?
I am only really beginning to read more about religion, so people shouldn't take what I say very seriously.
Not necessarily about that but I think there is more to what you said.

Re: So for the first time in my life I have met a real Chris
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:07 pm
by abdalla11
Perfect_Order wrote:abdalla11 wrote:
Besides you are either a muslim or a Kafir.
This is not true bro, don't say that. There are believers, hypocrites, kafirs who are those who reject islam and go against it or try to conceal it's truth, and then there are those whom islam hasn't reached in a clear and pure way that hasn't been adultrayted and they are not considered kafirs and we cannot say they will go to hell.
all the groups you´ve mentioned are either muslims or kafirs.