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gurey25 wrote:The majreteen are millitarily weak but are political players on a much higher level.
I have no doubt that if they had half the resources of somaliland, they would have tamed the south a long time ago.

Sanbalolshe wrote:Walle there are few idoors thinking outside the box, like the monk of mog for example, who is a secret idoor pretending to be a mooryaan lol. We idoors can not insist on this politically destructive path, something has to be changed and very quickly if i may add. Its about time we abused these defenceless mooryaans and dooros b4 they wake up and get their shitt together my idoor brothers and sisters, because no one will give us recognition out of goodwill or because they think we deserve it. The world is simply not that kind of a place. And just because you see a white minister from some scandanavian country visiting silaanyo in hargaisa don't think recognition is near. Infact always be alarmed when you see a white bastard, for they never come to you unless they have an ulterior motive.

So what should we do is the question maha? Well, for one we can stop this seccession nonsense and stay with our beloved brothers and sisters, drag them out of the mud, change the capital city of Somalia to hargeisa, and hope that these savages will share power with us fairly and return the favaour this time! I mean, why not? Just beacuse that dream did not materialize in 1960 does not mean it can't come true now or in the future?...OK, OK, Emperior b4 you kick your monitor i change my mind , I say fuck Somalia and its barbarous poeple. Even though truth be told, I still wonder what life would’ve been in our large villas in xamar, with babaay and seytuun growing at the backyard, with gudhuu maids roaming around who were so insignificant that I can’t even remember their names,’( we used to make them eat the left overs of the delicious food they cooked for us, and referred to southerners in general as subhumans, but in time they would make us pay for this injustice by threatening us and robbing us on a daily bases, and ofcourse the dooros got slaughtered and dragged on dusty streets, only there were no cameras to capture those heinous crimes like the white dudes in black howk down looooooooooooooool, wallahi hawiye ppl are savages naclatulahi caleykum, but atleast they got their revenge, and rightly so, the marexaans in here pls don’t get offended loooooool)’.

Anyway, emperior inaadeer cali dhaandhaanow when you put my subjective feelings aside which should not matter one bit in the real world, the question still is what should we do to get recognition sow maha? Well, objectively the answer is that we be as nasty and as filthy as the majeerteens usually are. We have to wear gloves and get our hands dirty if we have to. Inevitably the dhabayocos are the smartest Somalis alive today and because of that they will always be an obstacle to our success, so we have to bomb the shitt out of their major cities if we can’t avoid a fight. We have to level them to the ground, and kill almost every majeerteen till they no longer pose any threat to us. Then we have to deal with likes of shkh shariif shkh dameer, and trick them or bribe them or whatever and become the movers and shakers of Somali politics instead of isolating ourselves in hargeisa and burco with our thumbs up our arses because clearly that flawed way of thinkings wont get us anywhere. You see once we get rid of the majeerteen, the rest of Somalis will be so easy to manipulate because they are xoolo .In conclusion we have to become like Israel and bully our less fortunate Somali brothers like the carabs are currently being bullied, loool, and in return the stupid Americans will take notice and like us. We should not wait this recognition from someone else but have to take it with our hands, or forever remain pussies like Taiwan as someone already mentioned.

GENERAL_SNM wrote:Operation rightouse sword.


Aim: Civilising the south and gaining independence in the process.


Method; Informing the international community of our plan and gaining western military support in the process. Getting Djabouti to come along for the ride aswell as the greedy MJ and the SSC crew.


Conclusion; Defeat al-Shabab by infiltrating them with SL spies and causing disunty.

Once all these targets are met we install a dumb southerner and insure his group stays in power. Sideline the MJ's and anybody who could pose a threat to our ambitions. Keep soldiers in the south to keep the place functioning and as a warning system. Any group that dwells within the former British Somaliland will be offered to either relocate to the south voluntarily or forcefully if they dont wish to be part of the democratic republic of Isaaqland.

GENERAL_SNM wrote:I agree with Gurey and the other lunatic to an extent. What I do agree with them both is that no country will agree to give Somaliland its independece and the main reason is the white people created all these fake borders in Africa and no amount of good will on Somalilands part will make them redraw a single border, unless uncle sam smells something. We Isaaq's are wasting our time if we assume that this isolation policy will get us anywhere. Sitting back and doing nothing wont get us anywhere, if we want to progress and move forward we have to be ruthless and we must to go that extra mile to achieve our goal.In short for Somaliland to seperate from Somalia we have to scrifices more then we are doing. No point in having that fockin plane on Hargeisa and telling tales like the struggle is over because its clearly not. We have to go back to Xamer and get our sh!t.

Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:

gurey25 wrote:The majreteen are millitarily weak but are political players on a much higher level.
I have no doubt that if they had half the resources of somaliland, they would have tamed the south a long time ago.

There are no "resources" that Somaliland has that Puntland doesn't, unless you can name it, as far as I knew both of our police & armies were built by UN & Ethiopia to the same specifics, so unless you have secret weapons supplier than you're confused. The only reason we can't "tame" the south is because it isn't in our interest, and no amount of military might will change the status quo in Somalia; you need ideas to change the south (fundamentalist islam is a case). Even if a goliath army of majerteen marched into xamar every hawiye toddler would be indoctrinated to bring it down, just look at ethiopia, they weren't kicked out by islamists, they were kicked out by hawiye who were more bothered by the mjs in xamar rather than tigrays. The south (more like hawye) hates majerteen more than you guys can hate the south, we should be the ones seceding if anything but its better to hurt your haters than walk away and that's our policy, especially when we can profit from them without contributing.

RuralMan08 wrote:

GENERAL_SNM wrote:I agree with Gurey and the other lunatic to an extent. What I do agree with them both is that no country will agree to give Somaliland its independece and the main reason is the white people created all these fake borders in Africa and no amount of good will on Somalilands part will make them redraw a single border, unless uncle sam smells something. We Isaaq's are wasting our time if we assume that this isolation policy will get us anywhere. Sitting back and doing nothing wont get us anywhere, if we want to progress and move forward we have to be ruthless and we must to go that extra mile to achieve our goal.In short for Somaliland to seperate from Somalia we have to scrifices more then we are doing. No point in having that fockin plane on Hargeisa and telling tales like the struggle is over because its clearly not. We have to go back to Xamer and get our sh!t.

See how smart you can really be once you wipe that extra duuf from your nose?

GENERAL_SNM wrote:

War bal hoyadiwasehan qudhunbursiga maxa idaba dhigay sidan ahay aabihi. Yarow slow your horses I aint your dad so why do you need to act like a child to gain my attention. Keep it fockin moving midgan boy.

GENERAL_SNM wrote:I agree with Gurey and the other lunatic to an extent. What I do agree with them both is that no country will agree to give Somaliland its independece and the main reason is the white people created all these fake borders in Africa and no amount of good will on Somalilands part will make them redraw a single border, unless uncle sam smells something. We Isaaq's are wasting our time if we assume that this isolation policy will get us anywhere. Sitting back and doing nothing wont get us anywhere, if we want to progress and move forward we have to be ruthless and we must to go that extra mile to achieve our goal.In short for Somaliland to seperate from Somalia we have to scrifices more then we are doing. No point in having that fockin plane on Hargeisa and telling tales like the struggle is over because its clearly not. We have to go back to Xamer and get our sh!t.

abdi.ismail wrote:

GENERAL_SNM wrote:I agree with Gurey and the other lunatic to an extent. What I do agree with them both is that no country will agree to give Somaliland its independece and the main reason is the white people created all these fake borders in Africa and no amount of good will on Somalilands part will make them redraw a single border, unless uncle sam smells something. We Isaaq's are wasting our time if we assume that this isolation policy will get us anywhere. Sitting back and doing nothing wont get us anywhere, if we want to progress and move forward we have to be ruthless and we must to go that extra mile to achieve our goal.In short for Somaliland to seperate from Somalia we have to scrifices more then we are doing. No point in having that fockin plane on Hargeisa and telling tales like the struggle is over because its clearly not. We have to go back to Xamer and get our sh!t.

Why separate when we can rule? Somalia can be easily exploited. Nobody trusts eachother down there. This can be a big obstacle but also a great advantage because that means they can't unite against us.

Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:

gurey25 wrote:The majreteen are millitarily weak but are political players on a much higher level.
I have no doubt that if they had half the resources of somaliland, they would have tamed the south a long time ago.

There are no "resources" that Somaliland has that Puntland doesn't, unless you can name it, as far as I knew both of our police & armies were built by UN & Ethiopia to the same specifics, so unless you have secret weapons supplier than you're confused. The only reason we can't "tame" the south is because it isn't in our interest, and no amount of military might will change the status quo in Somalia; you need ideas to change the south (fundamentalist islam is a case). Even if a goliath army of majerteen marched into xamar every hawiye toddler would be indoctrinated to bring it down, just look at ethiopia, they weren't kicked out by islamists, they were kicked out by hawiye who were more bothered by the mjs in xamar rather than tigrays. The south (more like hawye) hates majerteen more than you guys can hate the south, we should be the ones seceding if anything but its better to hurt your haters than walk away and that's our policy, especially when we can profit from them without contributing.

gurey25 wrote:By resources i mean manpower, you had thousands of your clansmen bieng bodygaurds for abdulahi yusuf and not achieving anything,
while alshabab is running around causing chaos and destruction with about the same number of men. the highest estimates are 7000 fighters.

What if you get 2 to 3 times that number beefing up the anti-alshabab coalition?

Assuming ofcurse that the international community is willing to pick up the tab, im sure it will be cheaper than AU troops and more effective.

and abbout hawiye bieng anti majerteen, you should say Habr gidir.
xawaadle and mudulood have always been suceptable to Majerteen influence.

The thing is, Isaaq influence in Xamar is as hated as Majerteen/Darood influence in Xamar. Cabdirashid's scheme proved that when the Waqoyi representatives were specifically targeted, and funniest of all they stayed at a Majerteen-owned hotel of all the hotels in Xamar because you guys have less trust for Hawiye than we do and that's clear despite what's said on Somalinet. You need to understand that the people in Xamar don't want our brand of peace nor your brand of peace, they haven't paid taxes in 20 years and that's all they care about, not paying taxes and enjoying the loot, I say let them have their paradise.

By the way, Hawiye anarchy is not limited to HG - I thought it was, but its not. HG are quite statesman-like in comparison. Certainly, Mudulood are peaceful but they have no love for MJs. Xawaadle are on their own page. The little Hutus like Murusade and Duduble cause more trouble than HG. Either way, the anti-Majerteen thing is a pan-Hutu ideology, even the nice Mudulood believe in it, we just give them fancy Bari-Boowe talk to shut them up.

The difference between Abdullahi Yusuf's bodyguards and Al-Shabaab is their mission. As I said, ideas mean more than raw power - if Ethiopia, Puntland & Hutu warlords couldn't calm down a few sections of Xamar and Al-Shabaab did it in a few days it shows you that something other than raw power was used.

BTW, this is entirely off-topic, you need to focus on getting Somaliland's independence. This is 1988 all over again and you are in diaspora, as you were in 1988, so find a formula for independence this time instead of wasting another 20 years sitting till you're sore.

Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:

gurey25 wrote:By resources i mean manpower, you had thousands of your clansmen bieng bodygaurds for abdulahi yusuf and not achieving anything,
while alshabab is running around causing chaos and destruction with about the same number of men. the highest estimates are 7000 fighters.

What if you get 2 to 3 times that number beefing up the anti-alshabab coalition?

Assuming ofcurse that the international community is willing to pick up the tab, im sure it will be cheaper than AU troops and more effective.

and abbout hawiye bieng anti majerteen, you should say Habr gidir.
xawaadle and mudulood have always been suceptable to Majerteen influence.

The thing is, Isaaq influence in Xamar is as hated as Majerteen/Darood influence in Xamar. Cabdirashid's scheme proved that when the Waqoyi representatives were specifically targeted, and funniest of all they stayed at a Majerteen-owned hotel of all the hotels in Xamar because you guys have less trust for Hawiye than we do and that's clear despite what's said on Somalinet. You need to understand that the people in Xamar don't want our brand of peace nor your brand of peace, they haven't paid taxes in 20 years and that's all they care about, not paying taxes and enjoying the loot, I say let them have their paradise.

By the way, Hawiye anarchy is not limited to HG - I thought it was, but its not. HG are quite statesman-like in comparison. Certainly, Mudulood are peaceful but they have no love for MJs. Xawaadle are on their own page. The little Hutus like Murusade and Duduble cause more trouble than HG. Either way, the anti-Majerteen thing is a pan-Hutu ideology, even the nice Mudulood believe in it, we just give them fancy Bari-Boowe talk to shut them up.

The difference between Abdullahi Yusuf's bodyguards and Al-Shabaab is their mission. As I said, ideas mean more than raw power - if Ethiopia, Puntland & Hutu warlords couldn't calm down a few sections of Xamar and Al-Shabaab did it in a few days it shows you that something other than raw power was used.


BTW, this is entirely off-topic, you need to focus on getting Somaliland's independence. This is 1988 all over again and you are in diaspora, as you were in 1988, so find a formula for independence this time instead of wasting another 20 years sitting till you're sore.