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Beats the hell out of me. Never heard anyone talking about them
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Shirib wrote:Beats the hell out of me. Never heard anyone talking about them
Basically the ICU that didn't join the TFG and opposed Sh Shariif's presidency.
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I doubt anything will cause Godane and Mansuur to break up while AMISOM is still around.
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Shirib wrote:I doubt anything will cause Godane and Mansuur to break up while AMISOM is still around.
AMISOM will never leave or TFG will crumble, neighbouring countries will be invaded and global security will be at risk.
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abdisamad3 wrote:btw this is the supposed peacekeepers that will liberate Somalia in their own capital..

very civilised indeed..one could wonder what they do in somalia when they are doing this in their own capital..viva peacekeepers.and dr proffesor farmajo and shariif dameer,we thank for the aids too. :mrgreen: :up: :up: :up:
sawaxilika waa xaasiden wallahi.. stupid adoonmey :down:
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Shirib wrote:I doubt anything will cause Godane and Mansuur to break up while AMISOM is still around.
Inanka wuu soo waashay,milatu ibrahiim waa a battalion with in the dhalinyaro,just like cali and cumar battalions :lol:
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i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies. :up: :up: :up:
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country. :up: :up: :up:
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.

Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
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let us be fear ,TFG is a weak government it doesnt have any solution to this confused peaple , now reer muqdisho hate all groups alshabab ,TGF ,amison
alshabab : either with them or aakhiro , stonning with out 4 witness , beheading if you were with TFG Iin a the past not now like what happened in ceeldheer , unjustice because the judge is alshabab so if you are not you will be in a big shitt , dinta waa sideey u fahman hadii kale gaal ayaad tahay , culimada kuwooda un waaye kuwa kale waa gaalo sida sudeysi ,qardaawi, umal,shibbile , cayid al qarni . dhulka oo dhan waa inuu noqdaa islaam somali hadaan furano kenya iyo ithoopiya waa iney dhul muslim noqdan by force , alqaeda ayaan nahay , all this things are what they believe so how can they bring peace in somali
TFG : TABAR DARO ,CIIDAMA TUUGA AH , DAD CALOOSHOOD U SHAQEYSTAYAAL AH WAAYE
AMISOM WAXEEY TAQAANAA SIDA SHACABKA LOO DUQEEYO
SO DONT SAY ALSHABAB brought progress in somali and they don want negotiation with TFG , america are fighting against alqaeda in afghanistan and they are in indian ocean and you claim that you are with alqaeda so isnt that calling USA to bomb somali like afghanistan isnt that what alshabab looking for , suffering is enough let us came to reality
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Shirib wrote:ArcadeFire,

1) Yes
Waxaas dhaar miyaad ku taqaana?

2) Ugandans are bombing Somali's everyday, that's not transnational at all. It has everything to do with Somalia
Please drop the 'I dont support al Shabaab' bit, your support for senseless killings is transparent. Every time someone lists their faults you jump on banning bras and the hazy case of the 13yr old girl, excusing every other barbaric act in between.

3) :|
Al-Qaeda dont exist? :?

4) I actually answered the question very well. They exist, and the TFG President is the guy who told them to come
Thats pretty irrelevant now, even though I dont agree, there were semi-legitimate reasons for doing so during the Ethiopian period
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waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies. :up: :up: :up:
Banning them? Not every part of Somalia is fertile! maybe you mean their policy of killing their Somali workers? :|
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country. :up: :up: :up:
Under tyranny
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.
Maxaa naga galay their leadership? :?

Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
You have a point here :idea:
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waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies. :up: :up: :up:
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country. :up: :up: :up:
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.

Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
:up: :up:
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waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies. :up: :up: :up:
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country. :up: :up: :up:
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.

Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
Well said. :up:
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Arcade, dealing with the UN doesn't mean killing poor foot soldiers/employees. These masked guys curbed UN food dumping programs. It is the first time Somali farmers can sell their harvest. You said some parts of the country are not fertile, That's good too because it gives somali farmers to sell in those markets too.
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The south of Somalia is full of fertile land, the UN wants to keep us poor by giving us free food, they've been exposed enough, even Jazeera mentioned that there was a food boom in the South, not Xamar though.
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waryaa wrote:Arcade, dealing with the UN doesn't mean killing poor foot soldiers/employees. These masked guys curbed UN food dumping programs. It is the first time Somali farmers can sell their harvest. You said some parts of the country are not fertile, That's good too because it gives somali farmers to sell in those markets too.
This would be a great outcome if Somalia enjoyed greater infrastructure to facilitate more self-reliance, by this I mean roads so that people in say Mudug can purchase grain or whatever the hell grows in those Eelay places. Also, there are hundreds of thousands of refugees in somalia today, they couldn't purchase Somali produce even if there was the right infrastructure in place to create the potential market. Banning NGOs in Somalia in this moment of time is short-sighted, stupid and very dangerous.
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