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Basically the ICU that didn't join the TFG and opposed Sh Shariif's presidency.Shirib wrote:Beats the hell out of me. Never heard anyone talking about them
AMISOM will never leave or TFG will crumble, neighbouring countries will be invaded and global security will be at risk.Shirib wrote:I doubt anything will cause Godane and Mansuur to break up while AMISOM is still around.
sawaxilika waa xaasiden wallahi.. stupid adoonmeyabdisamad3 wrote:btw this is the supposed peacekeepers that will liberate Somalia in their own capital..
very civilised indeed..one could wonder what they do in somalia when they are doing this in their own capital..viva peacekeepers.and dr proffesor farmajo and shariif dameer,we thank for the aids too.
Inanka wuu soo waashay,milatu ibrahiim waa a battalion with in the dhalinyaro,just like cali and cumar battalionsShirib wrote:I doubt anything will cause Godane and Mansuur to break up while AMISOM is still around.
Shirib wrote:ArcadeFire,
1) Yes
Waxaas dhaar miyaad ku taqaana?
2) Ugandans are bombing Somali's everyday, that's not transnational at all. It has everything to do with Somalia
Please drop the 'I dont support al Shabaab' bit, your support for senseless killings is transparent. Every time someone lists their faults you jump on banning bras and the hazy case of the 13yr old girl, excusing every other barbaric act in between.
3)
Al-Qaeda dont exist?
4) I actually answered the question very well. They exist, and the TFG President is the guy who told them to come
Thats pretty irrelevant now, even though I dont agree, there were semi-legitimate reasons for doing so during the Ethiopian period
waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies.
Banning them? Not every part of Somalia is fertile! maybe you mean their policy of killing their Somali workers?
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country.
Under tyranny
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.
Maxaa naga galay their leadership?
Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
You have a point here
waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies.
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country.
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.
Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
Well said.waryaa wrote:i do not support their ideology but the positive things they have done include:
1. dealing with NGOs and UN agencies.
2. unifying more than 1/2 of the country.
3. their organization is the first to be run systematically. Nothing changes if If the head of the group dies. I heard Siad Bare was once taken to Saudi Arabia for health reasons and he left his son at the helm, Aidid died and USC called in his son from America, etc, etc. These guys are not run by family, tribe or anything like that. Like a corporation, you come in and die/leave with no or little impact. Right or wrong, these guys are run professionally.
Tell me one good thing the TFG has done for Somalia since Abdiqasim era. I know it produced many wealthy individuals and invited Ethiopian and Ugandan armies into the country.
This would be a great outcome if Somalia enjoyed greater infrastructure to facilitate more self-reliance, by this I mean roads so that people in say Mudug can purchase grain or whatever the hell grows in those Eelay places. Also, there are hundreds of thousands of refugees in somalia today, they couldn't purchase Somali produce even if there was the right infrastructure in place to create the potential market. Banning NGOs in Somalia in this moment of time is short-sighted, stupid and very dangerous.waryaa wrote:Arcade, dealing with the UN doesn't mean killing poor foot soldiers/employees. These masked guys curbed UN food dumping programs. It is the first time Somali farmers can sell their harvest. You said some parts of the country are not fertile, That's good too because it gives somali farmers to sell in those markets too.