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Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:24 pm
by Hyperactive
lol illen wah ba ika dambeeyey!!

shariif ina illey bo ka amarqaata, on anigu diiday. amhaarku woba ka faani, bayour deh.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:35 pm
by The_Patriot
hyperactive wrote:lol illen wah ba ika dambeeyey!!

shariif ina illey bo ka amarqaata, on anigu diiday. amhaarku woba ka faani, bayour deh.
Hyper dont worry about this dameer citizenship is for humans not livestock :mrgreen:

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:49 pm
by ciyaal_warta
The_Patriot wrote:
hyperactive wrote:lol illen wah ba ika dambeeyey!!

shariif ina illey bo ka amarqaata, on anigu diiday. amhaarku woba ka faani, bayour deh.
Hyper dont worry about this dameer citizenship is for humans not livestock :mrgreen:

waryaa its between TL and hyper adiga iyo New york sheekada maxaa idin soo galiyey mise ikacay dhiiga ayaad qaadeysaa :lol: :lol: :down:

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:53 pm
by The_Patriot
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=275084&start=15

Ciyal this dameer started the entire fracas check this link.

I mean he thinks that since he is from Jowhar he has everyright to determine who is from Somalia or not.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:01 pm
by ciyaal_warta
The_Patriot wrote:viewtopic.php?f=18&t=275084&start=15

Ciyal this dameer started the entire fracas check this link.

I mean he thinks that since he is from Jowhar he has everyright to determine who is from Somalia or not.

what happen to raginimo rule of what happens in a thread stays in it ??... too faar baa ka dhigteen sxb..dagaalka joojiyaa :lol: :lol: :up:

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:04 pm
by The_Patriot
I mean at 1st he created a thread for me , then he follows me like as if I am her pimp, man its upto this mofo.

horta he is an atheist and principly I dont engage in qabil bashing with atheists so you have a point.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:17 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
Shirib wrote:Shabaab have said that the only requirement to be a citizen of Somalia is to be Muslim.

Do you agree, or disagree with Shabaab? What do you think should make you a citizen of Somalia? Being born in Somalia, being an ethnic Somali, what if your mother is Somali and father not or vice versa?

What should Somali citizenship consist of? Discuss
I disagree the only requirement to be a citizen of Somalia is to be a Human. :som: :up:

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:22 pm
by Jamac_Yare
hyperactive wrote:lol illen wah ba ika dambeeyey!!

shariif ina illey bo ka amarqaata, on anigu diiday. amhaarku woba ka faani, bayour deh.
SHAAADAAAAP f-king Dhegcaas/cagdheer

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Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:24 pm
by melo
Shirib wrote:
melo wrote:The thing is Shirib. Somalia is a nation state. If shabaab want to do this, they need to change the very basis of Somalia as a nation. We are a nation state. You don't hear gambian people getting citizenships in China or some shit,
I don't think they would have to change much. European countries all started as Nation States and grant citizenship to people from all over.

Those european nations have large ethnic minorities. How many non chinese have citizenship in China?

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:31 pm
by melo
Cirwaaq wrote:
Shirib wrote:cirwaaq,

all citizenship is a legal matter. "birth rights" are defined by laws
LAW varry between Criminal LAW and Civil LAW and in our case Sharia LAW pertaining to Criminal or Civil codes and conducts.

SHABAB essentially if in power would revoke Birth Rights on the basis of citizenship exclusive to Wahabi followers.

Citizenship would be stripped from:

- All sufis
- All Atheists
- All non Wahabis

If you can proof birth in a state any legitimate state would have to honour the citizenship of a law abiding civilian with the power to protect that priviledge and right at the internatinal courts of law. Only a Rouge state could escape international pressure to honour once's rightfull birth right.
This is nonesense. Al-shabaab haven't made takfiir of the masses of the Sufis living in Somalia. Go listen to any of their talks. Most of their takfir is directed at Shariif and Ahlussunah wal jameeca leaders. Al-shabaab would NOT STRIP CITIZENSHIP of the sufis. I just don't believe this. Sufis are Muslims, and are a stand of ahlussunah wal jameeca. Atheists are murtadiin.

So again, it should be written in the constitution, that Somali citizenship should be tied into Islaam. Why are we demeaning Islaam? In western countries, TREASON might end up you being deported or even executed. Apostating from Islaam is HIGH TREASON against the state.

So again, I believe not only should gaal somalis be refused citizenship, but should be executed if they ever attempt to enter the country. As for the non Somali gaalo, they should be given permanent residency if they deserve it, but no citizenship.

As for the other Muslims, the same should apply.


Citizenship= Somali and Muslim.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:26 am
by waryaa
Shirib wrote:Shabaab have said that the only requirement to be a citizen of Somalia is to be Muslim.

Do you agree, or disagree with Shabaab?
disagree. with their formula, the country can be over taken by 20 million pakistanis and bangaladeshis. If they wanna sell the country at least they should consider a wealthy country like Japan.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:38 am
by Shirib
waryaa,

What do u think Somali citizen should consist of?

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:47 am
by Murax
Enlightened~Sista wrote:Maalin walba sheeko cusub ha inookeenaan...It's not like people are clamouring for Somali passports.

First time I wholeheartedly agreed with ES :shock: :lol: :lol:

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:49 am
by waryaa
Shirib wrote:waryaa, What do u think Somali citizen should consist of?
dnt tell any1: i voted for you - lol

1- I like the Indian way. You are no longer an Indian national as soon as you take another nationality. However, they give a long term residence to those who want to come back.

2- Somalis in Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya should always be considered as Somali citizens.

3- One generation rule: If one of your parents is Somali then you are somai too. Forget about grand parents.

Re: Somali Citizenship

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:55 am
by abdalla11
There are Somali christians like Micheal Marianno who did more for Somalia than his muslim cousin Ina Godane. Besides i rather have hardworking chinese living in Somalia than lazy ass Arab.

If we are giving citizenships to none Somalis we should do that based on quality of the individuals. No automatic citizenship because of religion!

PS: there are somali christian/atheists who didn't apostosized, let's not be hasty