Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

[greenday]

Its not like we have more right than any other Somali to Somalia. Maxa idinka galay dadka diintoda?

[Beenaale_No1]

And if we have other African immigrants in our country and they walked around like this

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Would you arrest them?

Nope, I'd tell them to cover up and get the eff out of my country.

Bani adaanka wexey qabaan miyad rabtaa in aad maamushi?

[Shirib]

Its funny cos most of you Muslims live in gaalo countries and nobody persecutes you

Are you God? No. Let God deal with them and their gaalinimo. Just give dacwa and advice, but if they chose not to listen waa arin ayaga iyo Ilaahi u taalo.

PS: We obvs dont want multiple Ayan Hirsis on our shores, who spout blasphemy and vitriol.

We don't have a problem with gaalo's, we have a problem with Ayan Hersi's and the oustanding majority of murtads are like her, who spread their filth on the most sacred thing we have

[Shirib]

Its not like we have more right than any other Somali to Somalia. Maxa idinka galay dadka diintoda?

nothing, until they open their mouth and start spreading their blasphemy. Unless ur a fan of Ayan Hersi and think she should freely do all her doings in Somalia

[Voltage]

They should be discouraged from returning. If their apostasy is private, then it is no one's business except them and God. However, if it moves into public realm then it becomes society's concern and brings the state into the picture. It is a corruption of social order. It is best they not return to an overwhelming Muslim society whose culture and custom they openly rejected.

France has a law that revokes citizenship if you reject state secularism, Somalia should have a similar law for the rejection of its culture and customs. Islamic culture is part of Somali identity as Somali culture is part of Islamic identity.

[greenday]

Its not like we have more right than any other Somali to Somalia. Maxa idinka galay dadka diintoda?

nothing, until they open their mouth and start spreading their blasphemy. Unless ur a fan of Ayan Hersi and think she should freely do all her doings in Somalia

Its her country she can say what she likes where she wants. You're a muslim and practice your deen freely in a country thats not yours yet you want to stop others doing the same in their country! Somalia is not your house.

[Beenaale_No1]

Its not like we have more right than any other Somali to Somalia. Maxa idinka galay dadka diintoda?

nothing, until they open their mouth and start spreading their blasphemy. Unless ur a fan of Ayan Hersi and think she should freely do all her doings in Somalia

Its her country she can say what she likes where she wants. You're a muslim and practice your deen freely in a country thats not yours yet you want to stop others doing the same in their country! Somalia is not your house.

As long as she doesn't start spouting her vitriol [she'll be breaking the hate speech laws lol], then I dont care. Somaliya is for every Somali. Peaceful Somali atheists should be able to live in their country without being harassed.

SOmaliya will be a liberal society. Most Somalis are liberals and lefty Guardian readers. A conservative Somali society is a pipe dream.

[Shirib]

Its not like we have more right than any other Somali to Somalia. Maxa idinka galay dadka diintoda?

nothing, until they open their mouth and start spreading their blasphemy. Unless ur a fan of Ayan Hersi and think she should freely do all her doings in Somalia

Its her country she can say what she likes where she wants. You're a muslim and practice your deen freely in a country thats not yours yet you want to stop others doing the same in their country! Somalia is not your house.

Who lied to you and told you Somalia wasn't my house? The likes of Ayan Hersi are gonna be beheaded. And the cool thing about that is majority of Somali's are on my side. And whats even cooler is, they'd probably get killed by their own family members before anyone else touched them. Now say Alhamduli'Allah, our nation is all Muslim

[Shirib]

I agree. As long as she doesn't start spouting her vitriol [she'll be breaking the hate speech laws lol], then I dont care. Somaliya is for every Somali. Peaceful Somali atheists should be able to live in their country without being harassed.

SOmaliya will be a liberal society. Most Somalis are liberals and lefty Guardian readers. A conservative Somali society is a pipe dream.

If u let her be there, u have no right to tell her that she can't tell people that Allah is a tyrant and Muhammad a pedophile. That isn't hate speech, its just speech we dislike. And she will tell people Islam is wrong, and that Allah doesn't exist. That's not hate speech either, but that's what they will say. The outstanding majority of murtads are vocal and spread their blasphemy.

[greenday]

No wonder you want the jinis to rule us. All we need is peace for couple of years and beheading or any such words wont be in the Somali vocabulary. Equality for all Somalis

[Shirib]

No wonder you want the jinis to rule us. All we need is peace for couple of years and beheading or any such words wont be in the Somali vocabulary. Equality for all Somalis

ur speaking of jini's, it will be their family members who will do the job.

u want to ruin the best thing about Somali's

[Voltage]

As long as she doesn't start spouting her vitriol [she'll be breaking the hate speech laws lol], then I dont care. Somaliya is for every Somali. Peaceful Somali atheists should be able to live in their country without being harassed.

SOmaliya will be a liberal society. Most Somalis are liberals and lefty Guardian readers. A conservative Somali society is a pipe dream.

I doubt most Somalis can get more progressive than I can and I thoroughly believe they should be discouraged from returning for the sake of social order. Also, I doubt you are being honest about the nature of the singularity of importance to Somali identity that Islam has.

The worst insult a Somali person can give you even all these years in the West is "gaalyaho" or "kaffir kan", "you infidel", "this non-believer", which brings about immediate indignation and total understanding of crossing boundaries. You will sit here in a Somali forum and say "Somalia is a liberal society" and will hardly care about Somali athiest among them?

Liberalism as it exists in Somali society is doing away with caste system and giving women their voice in the circle or small or ridiculed clans. Atheism has never been anywhere close to even the Liberal Somalis target issues. It is an extreme polarity outside of the defining Somali structures of "conservatism" and "liberalism".

You are willfully attempting to give an erroneous picture of Somali society for your own political gains.

[greenday]

No wonder you want the jinis to rule us. All we need is peace for couple of years and beheading or any such words wont be in the Somali vocabulary. Equality for all Somalis

ur speaking of jini's, it will be their family members who will do the job.

u want to ruin the best thing about Somali's

Talk about yourself. I want the best for Somalis. People will change in time but what i dont get is why people like you want to make things complicated? Maxa waye diinta la isku qasbayo


Beenale is right

[Armstrong]

Shirib is a true Somali

Greenday

Would you rather have Godane as your leader or ayaan hirsi? If you had to choose either one of these two who would you choose?

[Shirib]

No wonder you want the jinis to rule us. All we need is peace for couple of years and beheading or any such words wont be in the Somali vocabulary. Equality for all Somalis

ur speaking of jini's, it will be their family members who will do the job.

u want to ruin the best thing about Somali's

Talk about yourself. I want the best for Somalis. People will change in time but what i dont get is why people like you want to make things complicated? Maxa waye diinta la isku qasbayo


Beenale is right

lol, our diin is everything to us, and u want to have the likes of Ayan Hersi running around in Somalia. Ur ruining the best thing in Somalia, ur twisted views shouldn't be tolerated, nor will they be.