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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:26 am
by XaliimoFarax
gurey25 wrote:are they muslim oromo?

if yes then we have no right to expell them..
if we were smart we would use this extra 100,000 manpower to develop our country..
If conditions are that bad in Ethiopia, we should encourage the educated and skilled ethiopian muslims to cme in and welcome them as brothers..

god will then bless our land..
:up: :up:

Gurey for next SL president. I will even vote if it counts :mrgreen:

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:08 am
by The_Emperior5
Xalimo farax , you are a koonfurian,, koonfurians are not allowed to vote in Somaliland :lol:

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:14 am
by XaliimoFarax
The_Emperior5 wrote:Xalimo farax , you are a koonfurian,, koonfurians are not allowed to vote in Somaliland :lol:
Where there is a will there is a way dee :mrgreen:

So I take u dont want Mr Gurey to president? We aussies will have produced two presidents one in PL and SL 8-)

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:51 am
by Saraxnow
The problem is, mostly the poor and unskilled Oromos enter Somaliland and if they had any skills and a job was given to them, the unemployed Somalilanders want to work too. When you ask some of those oromos/foreigners '' instead of begging,should I give you a job?'' they turn away. Its as if begging is job on its own.


There has to be a balance between unskilled foreign workers and others not to mention the health and crime issues like children being kidnapped etc increasing.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:05 am
by The_Emperior5


wada deportgereyaa all non native Somalilanders

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:14 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Gurey is a dreamer :lol:
The gov has to do something about it . Again I am very sympathetic to the Oromos but one has to see it in order to grasp the nuisance in people's lives it has brought. In Somaliland the poorest of the poor has somebody he can eat with , take a shelter with , etc..ect.. the Oromo on the other hand has to do something else in order to keep himself and his family alive.
Ethiopia is a richer country than our non recognized entity so "economic migrants" doesn't really make sense here . The same has been done in Djibouti . I had the same feelings about it , I thought it wasn't really the muslim thing to do , laakiin the program executed by the Djiboutian gov to repatriate all the Ethiopians has somewhat had mixed results {not really getting rid of the problem although it somehow diminished the number of street beggars}.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:32 pm
by Keyse_0208
The_Emperior5 wrote:

wada deportgereyaa all non native Somalilanders

:D :D :D

waxay ku leeyihiin be sympathetic when there is already 100,00 of konfuurian refugees and more than 100,00 oromos, plus all the legal ones who are given papers. meesha ma waxay moodeen a homeless shelter meel lagu gaadho.?? i support this act and its about time the gov excercised its powers.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:41 pm
by Keyse_0208
this was just 2 months ago
Boqolaal Oromo ah oo ku hor mudaaharaaday Safaarada Itoobiya ee Hargeysa
Hargeysa

Ciidamada Ammaanka Somaliland ayaa maanta rasaas ku kala kaxeeyay Boqolaal qof oo ka mid ah Oromada ka soo yaacay wadanka Itoobiya ku sugan Somaliland, gaar ahaan caasimada Hargeysa, kuwaasi oo mudaharaad cabasho ah ka hor-sameeyay xarunta Safaarada Itoobiya ay ku leedahay Somaliland.

Mudaharaadayaasha ayaanu waydiinay waxa ay ka cabanayaan iyo ujeedada ay saaka isugu soo baxeen safaarada Itoobiya horteeda. “Waxaanu dalbanaynaa xaquuqdayada, dawlada Itoobiya ayaanu ka dalbanaynaa waayo waxaanu nahay Itoobiya, safaaradu waa taayadii, ma inay albaabada naga xidhaataaba.” Sidaa waxa tidhi Taxiya gabadh magaceeda iigu sheegtay oo Oromo ah, isla-markaana luqadda Af-soomaaliga jajabsanaysa oo aan kula kulamy safaarada Itoobiya horteeda. Waxa aan waydiiyay bal inay ii cadayso waxa ay ka cabanayaan waxa uu yahay. “Anaga dawarsi mooyaane xuquuq ma lihin, dawlada halkan way na eryaysaa dalkiina ku noqda bay dhaheen, markaa Hay’adaha dadka dhoofiya ee UNHCR waa inay na kaxayso maaha, Amxaaradaba way kaxaysaa, oo safaarada ayaa u ogaalatay inay qaxoonti yihiin, anagana qaxoonti ma tihin bay dhaheen, markaa saraada sidas baan ku nimi.”
Ciidamada ammaanka ayaa rasaas ku kala didiyay mudaharaadayashan Qoomiyada Oromada ah oo tiradii ugu badnayd hada ku sugan yihiin gudaha magaalooyinka waawayn ee Somaliland gaar ahaan caasimada Hargeysa.

Waa markii ugu horaysay ee oromada qaxoontiga ku ah Somalilad ay mudaharaad ka sameeyaan Hargeysa, iyada oo shaqada ugu badan ee ay halkan ku hayaan tahay in ay dawarsadaan oo keliya, halka Itoobiyaanka kale ee ku sugan Somaliland ka shaqaystaan oo ay xataa ku leeyihiin meherado waawayn oo ganacsi

hiiraanlive oo ka soo xigatay Maqaalkan

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:47 pm
by anonymousfaarax
Get rid of them all.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:25 pm
by grandpakhalif
Why are koonfurians in this thread get the hell out this doesn't concern you, its up to the people of somaliland.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:43 pm
by Gara Man
anonymousfaarax wrote:
Gara Man wrote:To you and EPDRF supporters yes they are economic migrants, but to a native who knows the persecution that exists, they are oppressed souls seeking a better life. I wonder how people can speak of immigrants and migrations when Somalis from Somaliland and others go to Qabribayah, who wish to eventually transport themselves to places in Oromia and Ethiopia? Telling me to believe that all people migrating then and now are all just staying in the Somali region would be crazy to assume. Also if this act is carried out, it could create an negative atmosphere for Oromos and Somalis in Haraghee who live peacefully together, as it did 10-12 year ago. This would not be good news for them.

If Oromos refugees failed to contribute it is not because of the failures of them but the failures of the local leaders of Somaliland. It is because of their lack of creativity and problem solving skill is that a problem exists. So simply using Oromos as scapegoats does not make up for the lack of accomplishments.

Seeking liberation is not that simple as you put it. It can take generations to fic the failures of our current leaders but thankfully Oromos are easily becoming one of the most educated peoples of the Horn of future generations.
I'm sorry but that is simply not good enough. If persecution OROMOS is that bad in OROMIA then you really ought to not run away from the problem when the problem is you earth, land, soild and country; you man up and do something about it; you organise yourself and do something about it. Simply running to Somaliland to beg does not make up for failure, cowardice, internal divisions and political impotence. By allowing your people to run to distant lands you are only removing the potential buildup of pressure that would lead to real political change and thus prolonging the current political reality.

You talk as though you're convinced it is better for your people, OROMOS, to stay in Somaliland than go back to their own lands. This is a sad reality.

The onus or burden of proof of contributing to society when in Somaliland falls upon the OROMOS and not the Somaliland gov. Either SOmaliland benefits from you or you leave. Simple really.

Seeking liberation may not be simple but it needs to be done nonetherless and it is not even relevant to this issue per se.
You are the one that initially referred to liberation not me. I was simply responding to your assertion. But really what would be the benefit of liberation for oromo for the people of Somaliland? (Of course besides the notion of decreasing of immigrants). But Somaliland can limit these people coming without the need of freedom of Oromia. You would think border security would have been emphasized for a self proclaiming country.

Let me repeat and say this again I am against Oromos migrating to Somaliland! Oromos should stay and in thier land and try to benefit our own community. I am not saying lets develop Ethiopia so it can become the best country in the Horn but at least to try to help better our own selves as oromos for our own benefit.

But even i am against the regugee seeking migration, I am also obviously against this fascist type mentality that you people have.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:51 pm
by TheSultaan
These stupid oromos saying Somalilanders fled to their land what the hell are you talking about ,, The Somalilanders fled to their traditional territory since when do you own our land in the Somali region, Qabri bayax is not oromo territory nor is Harta sheikh oromo land nor is Jigjiga oromoland , its our land.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:58 pm
by DropkickMurphy
Are the Ethiopians in Hargaisa all Oromo or are there other Ethiopian groups there as well like th Amhara and Gurage? By the way what about Hargaisa's native Oromos? I am talking about the ones that assimilated into the local clans. Will they be subjected to deportation as well?

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:01 pm
by TheSultaan
DropkickMurphy wrote:Are the Ethiopians in Hargaisa all Oromo or are there other Ethiopian groups there as well like th Amhara and Gurage? By the way what about Hargaisa's native Oromos? I am talking about the ones that assimilated into the local clans. Will they be subjected to deportation as well?

There are no assimilated oromos in Somaliland , there were indians but not oromos they all refugees they are all being deported back to their Dhako laxox land.
There are some gurages but not much and some Canfar but not much the oromos ba u badan.

Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:12 pm
by DropkickMurphy
There are about 58,000 Amhara in Hargaisa.
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