Pain of being a "kenyan somali"

[Lamagoodle]

The Patriot, what is your stance on what is happening in Kenya and the NFD? Are you still being seduced by tribalism saaxib?


The latest news;

Ducaale is in deep trouble; members of the coalition are accusing him of aiding and abating terrorism. Diiriye, Bilow, Farax Macalin and other MPs are protesting.

Thousands of somalis are held in Kasarani.

Eastleigh is a ghost town.

This is the pain of being " a kenyan" somali



By the way, what Abdinasir Sharif Amin wrote about is happening today.

[Alshabaibe]

hal walba halkay isdhigto aya lagu bireeya



when did the center give talow?

[BeyondQabil]

Another crybaby post. When are u going to cry about the pain of being a Somalian Somali?

[Lamagoodle]

Another crybaby post. When are u going to cry about the pain of being a Somalian Somali?

Why don't start a thread entitled "the pain of being a somali"? Write an essay based on your experience and I will respond.

What do you mean by "crybaby"?

Looking forward to your response to the challenge.

P.s. It is somali not somalian

[Lamagoodle]

hal walba halkay isdhigto aya lagu bireeya



when did the center give talow?

Al-shabaibe,

50+ years of humiliation, pogroms, rape, murder in the NFD. With the new so called constitution, people hoped things will be better. But, they were wrong; it is business as usual.

[EEGA9]

Duales recent speech in Islii was defiant and the rest of the NFD and Muslim MPs are standing with each other in this crisis. Somalis are becoming a powerful demographic in Kenya across many sectors and now is not the time to split and capitulate to the xenophobes who want to crush the progress made by Kenyan-Somalis and their brethren from across the border under the guise of terrorism. Somalis should push back using all legal avenues and those in government should forge strategic alliances to block any policy that will be detrimental to the Somali community in the future. It will not be an easy task but something has to be done to guarantee protections for Somalis.

[BeyondQabil]

Hahaha...Somali is a tribe....Somalian is citizenship. Somalilanders are Somali.....but not Somalian. Djiboutians are Somalis not Somalis. Bantus in Somali are Somalians not Somalis.

[BeyondQabil]

Duales recent speech in Islii was defiant and the rest of the NFD and Muslim MPs are standing with each other in this crisis. Somalis are becoming a powerful demographic in Kenya across many sectors and now is not the time to split and capitulate to the xenophobes who want to crush the progress made by Kenyan-Somalis and their brethren from across the border under the guise of terrorism. Somalis should push back using all legal avenues and those in government should forge strategic alliances to block any policy that will be detrimental to the Somali community in the future. It will not be an easy task but something has to be done to guarantee protections for Somalis.

"Our brethren across the border" hate us....sorry...they hate themselves. We have no tym for mooryanism. Daadab must close. We can no longer bear the burden of Imported clanism. To hell wirh being labelled a Sijui in my own country.

[Lamagoodle]

Hahaha...Somali is a tribe....Somalian is citizenship. Somalilanders are Somali.....but not Somalian. Djiboutians are Somalis not Somalis. Bantus in Somali are Somalians not Somalis.

Wrong; learn son. It is somali. Somalians is a new invention by people whose knowledge of the noun somali is limited.

I am waiting for you to undertake the challenge I wrote above.


EEGA9; Ducaale and the rest of the MPS from NFD are children of fathers who were called shiftas and mothers who were raped the last 50 years. Wagalla, Malka Re and Garissa comes to mind. It is one thing flushing out Al-sheydhaan but targeting a community that has historically being marginalised; extorting money and humiliating them in the same manner for 50 years will be futile; Farax Macalin, Billow and Diiriye are right when they say that this will be counter productive.

What we are witnessing is the worst human rights abuse in decades; Amnesty has just issued a press release about the situation.

[EEGA9]

This is the exact heavy-handed response Shabab was hoping for to be the result of their campaign of terror across Kenya. Somalis need to defeat both culprits in Shabab and the Kenyan Gangsters in Government looking to exploit the situation for their own ends as-well. Its time to put the resources we claim to own in Kenya towards building some safety nets.

[Alshabaibe]

Al-shabaibe,

50+ years of humiliation, pogroms, rape, murder in the NFD. With the new so called constitution, people hoped things will be better. But, they were wrong; it is business as usual.

Well we're just not united, its unfortunate.

Speaking of constitution, this whole 'operation' is well thought. As soon as Somalis begin talking of seceeding, devolution is out the window waayo well established communities (read kikuyus) stand to lose a lot with the devolved govt and NFD everything to gain. We're actually playing right into their hands with all this talk of breaking away.

Whats happening in eastleigh, is NOT about Al shabab or what have you, its to bring down the Somalis economically. Kawaran hadii uu 80% of the petroleum Kenya soo gala ay Somaalidu keenan, I'd shiver me whiskers as well. In the next 5 years give or take another 5 in shaa Allah, somaalis have the potential to have the Kenyan economy at its knees.

So yeah, this is a defining time for somalis in Kenya.

[sav12600]

This is what happens when you neglect your own region, forget about isli and mombasa and focus on developing nfd regions where somalis have a stronghold.

nfd can learn a think or two from abdi ilay, he biuld himself the most notorious police force in ethiopia, today abdi ilay with his liyu police are in full control, that region is attracting lots of investments, countless of development projects are bieng carried out and their future looks bright, and he also knows how to keep hutus and oromos in check.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Al-shabaibe,

50+ years of humiliation, pogroms, rape, murder in the NFD. With the new so called constitution, people hoped things will be better. But, they were wrong; it is business as usual.

Well we're just not united, its unfortunate.

Speaking of constitution, this whole 'operation' is well thought. As soon as Somalis begin talking of seceeding, devolution is out the window waayo well established communities (read kikuyus) stand to lose a lot with the devolved govt and NFD everything to gain. We're actually playing right into their hands with all this talk of breaking away.

Whats happening in eastleigh, is NOT about Al shabab or what have you, its to bring down the Somalis economically. Kawaran hadii uu 80% of the petroleum Kenya soo gala ay Somaalidu keenan, I'd shiver me whiskers as well. In the next 5 years give or take another 5 in shaa Allah, somaalis have the potential to have the Kenyan economy at its knees.

So yeah, this is a defining time for somalis in Kenya.

If somalis are as powerful and wealthy as you make it out, why are their brethren locked in cages like wild animals? I'm tired of somalis exaggerating they're socio-economic status in Kenya. Have you seen eastleigh? It looks like a cockroach nest. You have nothing. You are a nobody. Only whites and indians control that country and the bantus are their butlers and footsoldiers. Do you see timojilic or cadaans gettjng manhadled like bitches? Meanwhile NFD is an underdeveloped shithole. The only hope for somalis in kenya and ethiopia is a unified Somaliweyn or secession.

[Lamagoodle]

Al-shabaibe,

50+ years of humiliation, pogroms, rape, murder in the NFD. With the new so called constitution, people hoped things will be better. But, they were wrong; it is business as usual.

Well we're just not united, its unfortunate.

Speaking of constitution, this whole 'operation' is well thought. As soon as Somalis begin talking of seceeding, devolution is out the window waayo well established communities (read kikuyus) stand to lose a lot with the devolved govt and NFD everything to gain. We're actually playing right into their hands with all this talk of breaking away.

Whats happening in eastleigh, is NOT about Al shabab or what have you, its to bring down the Somalis economically. Kawaran hadii uu 80% of the petroleum Kenya soo gala ay Somaalidu keenan, I'd shiver me whiskers as well. In the next 5 years give or take another 5 in shaa Allah, somaalis have the potential to have the Kenyan economy at its knees.

So yeah, this is a defining time for somalis in Kenya.

If somalis are as powerful and wealthy as you make it out, why are their brethren locked in cages like wild animals? I'm tired of somalis exaggerating they're socio-economic status in Kenya. Have you seen eastleigh? It looks like a cockroach nest. You have nothing. You are a nobody. Only whites and indians control that country and the bantus are their butlers and footsoldiers. Do you see timojilic or cadaans gettjng manhadled like bitches? Meanwhile NFD is an underdeveloped shithole. The only hope for somalis in kenya and ethiopia is a unified Somaliweyn or secession.

Liquid Hydrogen, it is difficult to disagree with what you wrote above. Somalis are marginalised and there is a history behind that; pogroms were common. The somalis are not that powerful but politically- at least on paper- the devolution and the "constitution" was seen as a turning point. Unfortunately, it is the same old game. Regarding Eastleigh; many somalis wrongly blv that Eastleigh was established by somali immigrants from Somalia. Eastleigh has always been a business hub for the NFD people.

The Somalis are relatively speaking an economic powerhouse; they run businesses in the whole of Kenya and East Africa. The collapse of Somalia has meant that there was capital flow. That shithole- Eastleigh- is an economic hub that serves the whole of East Africa. The better shithole in a country of shitholes is perhaps the right description.

Alshaibabe, what happened in Eastleigh will happen in Garissa, Mandera, Wajir and Isiolo; economic might is not the main reason; it is racism. The somalis in the NFD and elsewhere have always been viewed as non-Kenyans; their loyalty to Kenya have been questioned. The somalis were addressed as "shiftas" between 1964 to 2000s; now it is the "terrorist" word.

Many people think this operation is only affecting somali refugees from Somalia; the fact is that it is the people of the NFD, Eastleigh (which has always been a somali dominated town) and elsewhere in Kenya are targeted.

Kenya has a right to defend itself against the threat of terrorism. But, it is main enemy is called "corruption". It should fight corruption instead of ethnically profiling and caging somalis. I read somewhere that most of the terrorist attacks in kenya were carried out by the non-somalis.

[Lamagoodle]

This is what happens when you neglect your own region, forget about isli and mombasa and focus on developing nfd regions where somalis have a stronghold.

nfd can learn a think or two from abdi ilay, he biuld himself the most notorious police force in ethiopia, today abdi ilay with his liyu police are in full control, that region is attracting lots of investments, countless of development projects are bieng carried out and their future looks bright, and he also knows how to keep hutus and oromos in check.

The NFD is changing; it is developing at unprecented pace. But, the problem is that it is from scratch. Half a century of marginalisation and underdevelopment will take many years to tackle.