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Basra- wrote:

union wrote:Basra, why do you think they're avoiding this thread as if it were a landmine?
Are they afraid i'll wipe the ground with them in debate? Are they all afraid of me?

union

No, darling. U know why they are avoiding it. Somalis are God fearing people, God gave us a brain and a heart-- we are supposed to balance it. Somalis have more of heart-Diin , ---all 100% heart-- therefore, a tinge of even the discussion of such a topic is blasphamy at its worst. They are afraid to be struck with lightening on their way to the majstid.

Basra, I notice that in a lot of your posts you seem to insinuate that being a good Muslim means not using your head.
Is this intentional on your part?

union

i am merely saying-- that having a balance is good. Even better in the eyes of GOD swt, balance between head and heart in preferred. But essentialy, having all heart for GOD and diin is not a bad thing as well. The only problem that arises from this all heart belief is that -- one relinquishes responsibilities. One blames everything on 'GOD willing'. Like i am not going to get a job-- GOD will provide me with food and drink somehow. Also, believing in all heart-- leaves zero room for compassion for other humanbeings. One turns into a sociopath if with all zealous heart belief. A parent dies--and there is no mourning-- Oh ALLAH has surmoned my beloved is what they say. Allaah swt wants us to have a balance, think with our brain and believe with our heart.In short, be humanbeings.

Alphanumeric wrote:Lol. The only people who enjoy these topics are the ones that get a rise from gloating their sources. "I've got more citations than yoooouuU!"

Bro, let it go. You're no better than these pseudo-Salafis who run around stamping "misguided innovator" on anyone who disagrees with them. What's the point in conversing with someone like that? I could barely share my opinion without being laughed at

A topic beaten to death with childish responses ain't much fun.

Alpha, I'm sorry i mocked your opinions but i was hoping my strong words would extinguish your ignorance
yes, this thread has been ruined by childish responses. it's all basra aka nannees aka gedogurl's fault cuz she has nothin better to do because wikipedia is down

union wrote:

Alphanumeric wrote:Lol. The only people who enjoy these topics are the ones that get a rise from gloating their sources. "I've got more citations than yoooouuU!"

Bro, let it go. You're no better than these pseudo-Salafis who run around stamping "misguided innovator" on anyone who disagrees with them. What's the point in conversing with someone like that? I could barely share my opinion without being laughed at

A topic beaten to death with childish responses ain't much fun.

Alpha, I'm sorry i mocked your opinions but i was hoping my strong words would extinguish your ignorance
yes, this thread has been ruined by childish responses. it's all basra aka nannees aka gedogurl's fault cuz she has nothin better to do because wikipedia is down

Union aka monk aka voltage don't compare me to Basra aka grant aka rainbow

Basra- wrote:union

i am merely saying-- that having a balance is good. Even better in the eyes of GOD swt, balance between head and heart in preferred. But essently, having all heart for GOD and diin is not a bad thing as well. The only problem that arises from this all heart belief is that -- one relinquishes responsibilities. One blames everything on 'GOD willing'. Like i am not going to get a job-- GOD will provide me with food and drink somehow. Also, believing in all heart-- leaves zero room for compassion for other humanbeings. One turns into a sociopath if with all zealous heart belief. A parent dies--and there is no mourning-- Oh ALLAH has surmoned my beloved is what they say. Allaah swt wants us to have a balance, think with our brain and believe with our heart.In short, be humanbeings.

That's what you may be saying NOW
but I've seen you multiple times before conflating being educating with being an atheist and being not smart as the epitome of piety
You are blasphemer, which is ironic because you often accuse me of being such

Nanees wrote:

union wrote:

Alphanumeric wrote:Lol. The only people who enjoy these topics are the ones that get a rise from gloating their sources. "I've got more citations than yoooouuU!"

Bro, let it go. You're no better than these pseudo-Salafis who run around stamping "misguided innovator" on anyone who disagrees with them. What's the point in conversing with someone like that? I could barely share my opinion without being laughed at

A topic beaten to death with childish responses ain't much fun.

Alpha, I'm sorry i mocked your opinions but i was hoping my strong words would extinguish your ignorance
yes, this thread has been ruined by childish responses. it's all basra aka nannees aka gedogurl's fault cuz she has nothin better to do because wikipedia is down

Union aka monk aka voltage don't compare me to Basra aka grant aka rainbow

nanees, why would you be offended at being compared to yourself?
Are you multiple personalities in conflict with one another?

union

YES< i am against education for those with weak mind like u--who with a lil univ, edu has turned into a none believer. I do believe, ignorance of education is condusive to piety and diin. Because a natural weak mind--- needs ignorance more than enlightenment.

Basra- wrote:union

i am merely saying-- that having a balance is good. Even better in the eyes of GOD swt, balance between head and heart in preferred. But essentialy, having all heart for GOD and diin is not a bad thing as well. The only problem that arises from this all heart belief is that -- one relinquishes responsibilities. One blames everything on 'GOD willing'. Like i am not going to get a job-- GOD will provide me with food and drink somehow. Also, believing in all heart-- leaves zero room for compassion for other humanbeings. One turns into a sociopath if with all zealous heart belief. A parent dies--and there is no mourning-- Oh ALLAH has surmoned my beloved is what they say. Allaah swt wants us to have a balance, think with our brain and believe with our heart.In short, be humanbeings.

How do you differentiate between heart and head?

Alpha

Well, it is easy. One needs to be none fanatic. None reactionary. One needs to be cool in temprament. Like when one insults your diin-- one needs NOT jump and self suicidide. One needs to reason, and think before acting. If one insults your prophet-- one needs NOT-- be suicidal or homicidal-- one needs to relax and leave it to Allaah swt for Allaah swt knows and purnishes. I am saying -if one is all head, and reasoning and at the same time believing, one is successful. For example, one should be confident enuf with their imaan by entering this thread and discussing evolution and diinta without feeling they are commiting a prime sin. Basically, in the quran, it says--Knowledge is power, and we are encourage to seek knowledge as far as CHINA. Therefore, the separation is clear as day and night. React with your head and not with your heart, although--there is a fine line-- where i say-- all heart diin could be good to Allaah swt since --which one would u like---someone who loves u with all their might or with all their intellect and restrained affection? The balance is hars to achieve.

I didn't ask for a balance and how to achieve it. I asked how you would be able to differentiate "heart" from "head".

Basra,


You are not against uni education for only 'weak minded' people
That's a qualification you just added to make your claptrap less absurd
You are against it for everybody BUT YOU
Is that not so?

Alpha

Well, OK : Heart: Truly believing in diinta without using your head.

Head: Question and reasoning diinta but at the same time truly a believer.


The difference is ---head believing, intellectually recognizes diinta and the heart--- feels in feelings of diinta. To differentiate--- heart feels the diinta and the head reasons the diinta.


For example: Intellectually, i do believe there is NO other religion superior to ISLAM. (aided by reasonable answes of course)


And also I do trully "feel" in my heart-- that diinta ISLAM is the right and ONLY SUPERIOR AND UPDATED religion.



Have "I" Answered your question now, macaanto?

LOL@union


How can u argue with me and dismiss my points?? LOL Its outrageous.

Yes, just fine.

Alpha

Good. I am glad i can oblige.