Sudani Chick wedded to the president of Chad for

[SahanGalbeed]

This majeerten monk of mogadishu guy is one crazy dude. Since they've been saying " we've found oil in Puntland " the guy thinks he knows these crooks

[Rainbows]

Monk is right.

[Alphanumeric]

^yup... just politics

[SahanGalbeed]

You know what the somalis in my area do in this case ? they exchange girls with the other party , or give away girls to the other family .
Multiple of girls , why ? because of the relationship with the CLAN , not an individual . If anybody thinks this is gonna stop the fighting between these groups , I have got an oil rig in Puntland ready for hire .

[gurey25]

sahan i work with the son of one the leaders of the rebel movement that failed to coup Idris in 2009.
his father is under house arrest and he cannot go back to chad, till idris deby goes or pardons his family.

Ill check with him, he is sure to have inside info.

[Alphanumeric]

[SahanGalbeed]

sahan i work with the son of one the leaders of the rebel movement that failed to coup Idris in 2009.
his father is under house arrest and he cannot go back to chad, till idris deby goes or pardons his family.

Ill check with him, he is sure to have inside info.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

How do you know is Hilal who offered his daughter , specially when you say ' I doubt Deby wanted the flower that bad".
The peace that the people of Tchad is of what kind ? is it with Sudan ? Central Africa or with other tchadians?
What makes you think Idris Deby totally control the many darfurian rebel groups ?

I know Hilal offered his daughter because the Zaghawa have gained the upper hand over the last few years against Hilal's poor Baggara confederation. The myth that the Baggara militias (Janjaweed) were more powerful than the Zaghawa & their relatives in Darfur is a myth you probably fell for. The Bagarra have less than 20,000 very poorly-armed and disorganized fighting men stretched between Abyei and Al-Fashir while the Zaghawa and their Fur cousins (they're not the same ethnic group as you implied earlier, and nether are the Tebu the same as Zaghawa) have around 50,000 heavily-armed and organized soldiers concentrated in the center of Darfur region (if you paid attention to the last ceasefire you'd know this). With the recent resumption of the Darfur conflict, the Baggara were about to get a rude wake-up call.

What kind of peace is this? This is not peace between nations, its about peace between two groups of people (nomadic Darfurians & Sedentary Darfurians). The regimes involved (Khartoum & N'Djamena) were just supplying fuel for the fire, they are not at the center of the issue at all; this is tribal diplomacy not some UN-brokered shit, it extends far beyond the two regimes in the backdrop. It means a total end to hostilities by the Baggara; who although likely outnumbered (definitely outgunned) in Darfur region, are far larger than Deby's Zaghawa people and the Baggara inhabit between central Sudan all the way to Nigeria and can do considerable damage in Chad and to Deby's people in particular in the long run. Regimes are temporary, this is a different ballgame.

And how much does Deby control Darfurian rebel groups? How much influence did Siad Barre have over Somali militias in Galbeed and NFD during his early presidency? Take that level of control and multiply it by ten, these people are far more tribal and far less cautious about "international" boundaries. Zaghawa and Fur look to Deby, who is the most powerful man in the world among them, to provide everything - and that includes protection.

You need to brush up on the issues.

[Mondey]

Let me explain once again to the mentally deficient.

The money went to the leader of the Bagarra militia AKA Janjaweed, not some ordinary old man. This wedding, between the highest Fur man (Idris Deby) and the daughter of the highest Bagarra man (Musa Hilal) has just bought peace in an area larger than the entire Horn. Again, the meher for this wedding was quite cheap considering the scale. This was not a wedding between two families, it was a wedding between two ethnic groups and the union of one of the world's largest geographic war zones. Hilal used his daughter to pay for peace among millions of people, and Deby coughed up the money in doing the same thing. This was not personal.

$26 million is a lot of money, but its chump change in this context. Everything needs to be put into context. These tribes/ethnic groups generate much more than this little $26 million (KG's yearly salary), so its very much worth it to buy a permanent peace.

Deby used his people's treasury to pay for THEIR peace, not his. This is for the people, I doubt Deby wanted the flower that bad. And it was the Janjaweed leader who offered his daughter for peace.

or it was a wedding between one dictator (Deby) and the biggest threat to his throne (Janjaweed/Sudan) for his peace.. still this doesn't necessarily mean that those armed Sudani militias will comply to whatever peace treaty this wedding was intended to bring forth they can break it at any point or soon as their leader is replaced what will Deby do then wed another leaders daughter for another $26 m ? for a sad country that still didn't recover from the civil wars they suffered throughout its history between different ethnic/religious groups, political turmoil and high corruption levels, ranked one of the poorest states in the world.. this surely doesn't look a step in the right direction.

[Jaidi]

How do you know is Hilal who offered his daughter , specially when you say ' I doubt Deby wanted the flower that bad".
The peace that the people of Tchad is of what kind ? is it with Sudan ? Central Africa or with other tchadians?
What makes you think Idris Deby totally control the many darfurian rebel groups ?

I know Hilal offered his daughter because the Zaghawa have gained the upper hand over the last few years against Hilal's poor Baggara confederation. The myth that the Baggara militias (Janjaweed) were more powerful than the Zaghawa & their relatives in Darfur is a myth you probably fell for. The Bagarra have less than 20,000 very poorly-armed and disorganized fighting men stretched between Abyei and Al-Fashir while the Zaghawa and their Fur cousins (they're not the same ethnic group as you implied earlier, and nether are the Tebu the same as Zaghawa) have around 50,000 heavily-armed and organized soldiers concentrated in the center of Darfur region (if you paid attention to the last ceasefire you'd know this). With the recent resumption of the Darfur conflict, the Baggara were about to get a rude wake-up call.

What kind of peace is this? This is not peace between nations, its about peace between two groups of people (nomadic Darfurians & Sedentary Darfurians). The regimes involved (Khartoum & N'Djamena) were just supplying fuel for the fire, they are not at the center of the issue at all; this is tribal diplomacy not some UN-brokered shit, it extends far beyond the two regimes in the backdrop. It means a total end to hostilities by the Baggara; who although likely outnumbered (definitely outgunned) in Darfur region, are far larger than Deby's Zaghawa people and the Baggara inhabit between central Sudan all the way to Nigeria and can do considerable damage in Chad and to Deby's people in particular in the long run. Regimes are temporary, this is a different ballgame.

And how much does Deby control Darfurian rebel groups? How much influence did Siad Barre have over Somali militias in Galbeed and NFD during his early presidency? Take that level of control and multiply it by ten, these people are far more tribal and far less cautious about "international" boundaries. Zaghawa and Fur look to Deby, who is the most powerful man in the world among them, to provide everything - and that includes protection.

You need to brush up on the issues.

This guys my favourite poster on this site. This post sounds like it makes sense. Deby took power as a rebel from Darfur. Also isn't JEM the Zaghawa rebel group? They lost financial support from Gaddafi and a sanctuary for their leader, who just got killed last month.

[SahanGalbeed]

Nonsense .

[Jaidi]

Nonsense .

Where can I find a Tebu girl man?

[zulaika]

26 million for her dowry or cost of wedding?

[Lillaahiya]

^ $25M for dowry and $1M for dahab

[Alphanumeric]

$26M dowry. $1M went to her, the rest her father.