Grandpa soo gal

[union]

nope, those verses are clear to me. sun doesn't orbit the earth

Grandpa gave a very compelling argument for his positions, and it's your duty to come up with something a bit more substantial than a one line rebuttal.

[Keyblade]

nope, those verses are clear to me. sun doesn't orbit the earth

Grandpa gave a very compelling argument for his positions, and it's your duty to come up with something a bit more substantial than a one line rebuttal.

playing devil's advocate: you're doing it wrong.

[grandpakhalif]

I disagree very highly with you on this. I believe that the Sun orbits the Earth, I believe that the Qur'an tells us this, and I will always believe this. I do not care one bit what science may tell us about anything.

The sun's revolution around the earth is proven by the clear text of the Qur'an and rather it is your understanding of the Qur'an that is the problem. All science is based on human perception and I take Allah's word over human perception.


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[Witticism]

Let's reverse the question. How would the universe have to behave if the Earth were stationary?

[union]

nope, those verses are clear to me. sun doesn't orbit the earth

Grandpa gave a very compelling argument for his positions, and it's your duty to come up with something a bit more substantial than a one line rebuttal.

playing devil's advocate: you're doing it wrong.

as moderator of this impromptu debate, its my job to promote intellectual discussion and debate and i don't believe one line rebuttals help with that

[Based]

The following hadeeth does indicate that though:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allaah and His Prophet know best. He (the Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came

That's clearly metaphorical bro, or do you think the sun legitimately "bows"

Damn, I'm starting to think you're an atheist trying to defame Islam by presenting Muslims as some backward neanderthals.

If so, epic trolling

[grandpakhalif]

Calling me an atheist? Defaming Islam? Come on bro, stop throwing such baseless accusations I am simply re-iterating the mainstream opinion of the culuma. May Allah curse me and break my back if I am such.

[fighter]

"And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming"
- The Holy Qu'ran 21:33

"It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit"
- The Holy Qu'ran 36:40

"(God is) the One who created the night, the day, the Sun and the Moon, each one spinning around its own axis (travelling in an orbit)".
- The Holy Qu'ran 21:33

"Do you not see that Allah causes the night to enter the day and causes the day to enter the night and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term, and that Allah , with whatever you do, is Acquainted?".
- The Holy Qu'ran 31:29

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Wasn't science mandatory to graduate high school? It is well known that the sun has its own orbit. The sun orbits the center of the Milky Way (which is our galaxy). It takes the sun a little over 220 million years to complete ONE orbit. This is known as a galactic year. I hope I don't need to inform any of you of the orbit of the moon.

The sun does NOT orbit the Earth.

[SultanOrder]

Grandpa when it is night in Canada, and Day in China, when is the sun bowing? And you can prove this with a simple call to china right now, and ask them if the sun is shinning.

[Alphanumeric]

Calling me an atheist? Defaming Islam? Come on bro, stop throwing such baseless accusations I am simply re-iterating the mainstream opinion of the culuma. May Allah curse me and break my back if I am such.

if i remember right, you do view weed as situationally halaal

[union]

One at a time boys! Let's not overwhelm Imam grandpakhalif!

[Alphanumeric]

Let's reverse the question. How would the universe have to behave if the Earth were stationary?

reworking the universe huh? tempting. i wonder how that would look

[grandpakhalif]

Grandpa when it is night in Canada, and Day in China, when is the sun bowing? And you can prove this with a simple call to china right now, and ask them if the sun is shinning.

I don't know what your suggesting obviously bowing under Allah's throne is the matters of the unseen, so this argument is laughable.


Alpha, you failed to address my points and now are attempting to derail off topic. SMH

[union]

"And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming"
- The Holy Qu'ran 21:33

"It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit"
- The Holy Qu'ran 36:40

"(God is) the One who created the night, the day, the Sun and the Moon, each one spinning around its own axis (travelling in an orbit)".
- The Holy Qu'ran 21:33

"Do you not see that Allah causes the night to enter the day and causes the day to enter the night and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term, and that Allah , with whatever you do, is Acquainted?".
- The Holy Qu'ran 31:29

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Wasn't science mandatory to graduate high school? It is well known that the sun has its own orbit. The sun orbits the center of the Milky Way (which is our galaxy). It takes the sun a little over 220 million years to complete ONE orbit. This is known as a galactic year. I hope I don't need to inform any of you of the orbit of the moon.

The sun does NOT orbit the Earth.

Fighter do you believe in the theory of evolution?

No you don't.

Now let me ask you a similar question to the one u asked gp: Wasn't biology a mandatory class to graduate high school? It's well known humans evolved from a common ancestor with the apes and all the other creatures of the earth. We've been evolving the past 2.2 million years.

[Alphanumeric]

gramps, you made no points. the verses are clear, as they always have been.