President Silanyo Sets Up Committee to Hold Talks With TFG

[gurey25]

I am willing to accept the continued political isolation and stagnation of somaliland, if they so choose.
What the somali govt should tell them is that the door is always open for them, and a seat at the federal table is reserved for them.

I am of the opinion that as the war ends and a semblance of "normalcy" returns to the south, it will become apparent to the northerners that they stand to gain far more being within somalia, than remaining an unrecognised dysfunctional backwater.

also we have to differentiate between the issaqi diasporic ( the equivalent of likudites ), the political class,( a corrupt and discredited polity), and the ordinary citizen. each has its own interest which doesn't necessarily coincide with the other.

the secessionists might not know or are unwilling to accept the fact, that they need somalia more than she needs them.

Somalia is weighing us down man..
We will develop faster as an unrecognized state than be part of a working Somalia.

[original dervish]

now your being irrational.
As I said earlier, the rejectionists in the diasporic have different interests to the ordinary northerner.
of course if were up to the extremists residing in the west, there would not be any talks in the first place.
I prefer to listen to the suldaan of somaliland, he has his peoples interest at heart.

[gurey25]

you are the irrational one..
you are driven entirely by emotion not logic,

you believe your fantasies to be true..

the truth is that since 1961 somaliland has been at an economic disadvantage.
We did not benefit from the south? food was imported through Berbera and came from the world market not xamar,
Next to no infrastructure was built in the north, everything was built in the xamar.

we were just taxed..

There was nothing positive about being in the union at all.

and today just live from 1960 till 1990 we have practically zero economic links to the south, the only difference is that there is no state in xamar taxing us.

[gurey25]

my friend its all over , i am the closest there is to a moderate,
the previous generation i,e siilanyos are also moderate they can imagine a union, even if they dont want one.

but more than 1/3 of the population was born after 1991 and they will shoot you if you talk such shit.

ive been threatened myself when i play the devils advocate and present Unionist ideas and somaliweyn to my cousins

[original dervish]

please compare 80years of colonialism with the 30 years of unionism.
The British left nothing, no roads, no ports, airports, no bridges,etc.
Everything you have was bequeathed to you by somalia, which is the sum efforts of the entire nation.

The people will be swayed by their elders, visionary politicians, religious leaders etc.There is still a strong unionist sentiment in the north.
We have already taken up the gun, so the fear of being shot by some extremist is inconsequential.

I think 22 years of failed policies is quite enough....the people deserve better than the discredited secessionists policies.

[skywalker25]

Darwish, your destiny is decided in Hargeisa, dont ever get it confused. It must hurt knowing the same men you hate decide your fate...

[gurey25]

please compare 80years of colonialism with the 30 years of unionism.
The British left nothing, no roads, no ports, airports, no bridges,etc.
Everything you have was bequeathed to you by somalia, which is the sum efforts of the entire nation.

The people will be swayed by their elders, visionary politicians, religious leaders etc.There is still a strong unionist sentiment in the north.
We have already taken up the gun, so the fear of being shot by some extremist is inconsequential.

I think 22 years of failed policies is quite enough....the people deserve better than the discredited secessionists policies.

thats whats fuked up.

The Government of somalia did not build anything in the Somaliland.
Nearly everything was built by the british before 1960.

Burco airstrip, and Berbera dont count, they were renovated and expanded to serve the needs of the Soviet navy and later on the US

[SahanGalbeed]

Issaqa siyaasadiisa marku ka tashanayo { sida dadkan kale qaarkood , intey qol gudcur ah isu gu yeedhan , sidaa tuugta hadalka hoos u ma dhigtaan} , ilaa iyo wixii caddow u aha baa soo fadhisan kara , oo dhiibanaya codkiisa .

Arrintan kale e dareenka shacabka , sidu gurey sheegayo , horta wixii maanta 30yrs ka yar e Isaaq ah , ma' ba yaqaanan Somaliya .That's a fact !
Laakin it doesn't mean , nacayb baa lagu soo koriyay . Waxaanad wax ka ogayn , ninkii iska naca , de waa doqon
Labo ayay marka noqonaysa .
1/ ninkii aaminsan inu qancin karo ummadaas .
iyo
2/ ninkii ama diidan ama aanan karayn.

[Mondey]

the talks is beneficial for both the secessionists and the unionists.. great move

[original dervish]

^^^^ the talks are a good first step!