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Shirib

there's no gay gene, that's absolutely false. You cannot be born gay. I can become gay tomorrow if I want to.

Then you don't believe in the general view of modern science.

Lol where did he get the 6 yrs old child from?

Is he telling us there are Muslims who marry kids that young?

OK.

http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/ ... ality.html

@Wolverine
There is no scientific study that actually proves there is a genetic link with homosexuality.
Homosexuality is a depravity of sexuality in the mind, it's why married men come out of the closet at any time and people with girlfriends, also why gays reform. It's all in the mind.

wolverine wrote:Shirib

there's no gay gene, that's absolutely false. You cannot be born gay. I can become gay tomorrow if I want to.

Then you don't believe in the general view of modern science.

Lies

There's nothing in modern science that definitely says that homosexuality is trait that one is born with. If there is where is the gay gene? Like I said, I can become gay tomorrow if I wanted.

I hope that everyone in this thread are 20+ years old(close around 20 myself). I do not want to debate religious issues with children!

You don't believe in Islaam as already stated.
You support homosexuality.
You have anti-Somali and i'm guessing anti-African views on the world.
Allah yahdik is all i say. This world is a very short abode, you can live with your ideologies and your blindness for only a short period.
There is no point in you mentioning the salaf, ten of them were promised jannah and many of them are awaiting paradise. Someone who has turned away the haqq in pursuit of cadaanima isn't worthy of anything. Allah yahdik sincerely.

First and foremost I'm not anti-Somali and I'm certainly not anti-African, infact I am proud of both of those identities. Secondly, you didn't answer my question: Are you a salafi? Hopefully you'll answer my question.

Hopefully this is just a phase you're going through.

Salafi, Firqatun-Naajiyyah, athari, sunni, ahlil ahaadith call it whatever you like alhamdulilah i hope Allah keep us firm upon it. As for you, i hope Allah guides you. I have lived in London all my life and walhamdulilah while i don't claim to be righteous* at least i haven't sold my Imaan and Islam for western Crap and Cathab.

*Sheikh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said: "It is self-delusion to say 'I am saved' and not pessimistic, for example being too secure saying 'I have the attributes of the salaf, I am saved', We still have to humble ourselves and not to say that we have the attributes of the Salaf. So I say to these people, not everybody who opposes me a thing from this path will become one of those who will perish, for verily the disputer may be a mujtahid who was wrong, and Allaah will forgive him his mistakes. Or maybe the proof did not reach him, enough to satisfy his needs (i.e. to understand it). Or maybe he has enough good deeds in which Allaah will wipe away his bad deeds."

*Definition of Salifiyyah

by Sheikh Ibn Al-Utaymeen
Yarhamahu Allah (May Allah have mercy on him)

From his book, "Liqaa-al-Baab al-Maftooh", Q # 1322


Muhammad Salih Ibn al-Uthaymeen said: "Salafiyyah is following the way of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and his Sahabah for they are our Salaf (predecessors) who preceded us, so following them is Salafiyyah. As for taking Salafiyyah as a special Manhaj such that everyone who differs with it is considered astray even if he was on the truth; then this is beyond doubt opposite to Salafiyyah.

All the Salaf called to Islam and to unite upon the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and they did not declare astray anyone who differs with them (in a certain issue) because of (a different) interpretation (Taweel), except in matters of Aqeedah because they considered him, who differed in Aqeedah as astray.

But, in our time, some who took the path of Salafiyyah consider astray everyone who differs from them even if the truth were to be on his side. And they took a Hizbi (partisan) Manhaj, just like the other Hizbs (parties), who divide the religion. This (their way) must be rejected and not be approved of.

It is said, 'Look at the way of the Salaf as-Salih and what did they do in regards to differences and wideness of their hearts with regards to Ikhtilaaf (differences) in matters in which Ijtihad was feasible. (They differed with each other) to the degree that they differed in big issues, in (minor) issues of Aqeedah and (minor) issues of knowledge - for example, some of them denied that Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) saw His Lord and some of them confirmed of it. Some of them said, 'the deeds would be weighted on the Day of Judgment', whilst others held that "the books which record the deeds will be weighed." They also differ in matters of Fiqh, Marriage, obligations, buying and selling, etc. Despite this, they did not declare each other astray.

Thus, Salafiyyah that is taken to mean a special party (Hizb) with specific rules whose members consider anyone who differs with them as astray then they have nothing to do with Salafiyyah.

But the Salafiyyah that is to follow the Salaf in beliefs, sayings, actions, their way of differing and unity, their way of being merciful and compassion to one another as the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) said, "You see the believers as regards their being merciful among themselves and showing love among themselves and being kind, resembling one body, so that, if any part of the body is not well then the whole body shares the sleeplessness (insomnia) and fever with it."Then this is the true Salafiyyah."

There is no such thing as "Human Rights", only "Homo Rights". Anyone who abides by the Geneva Conventions is surely Anti-Islam, no?

ummsalma are you're older than 20?

wolverine wrote:I am a deist.

I haven't read any further posts.

Your opinions on many issues are now worthless as you think and operate in an entirely different paradigm.

ummsalama mashallah you sound like a very learned and practising sister.May allah keep you upon the haqq, salafiyyah, amin.

grandpakhalif

You avoided answering my question my saying that you would allow a 50 year old man marry a girl which has had period, which is most likely into the midteens.

My question was if it should be allowed for a 50+ year old man to marry a 6 year old in, not someone who has reached puberty, which could well be in mid teens. To repeat the question:
Should it be allowed for a 50+ year old man to marry a 6 year old in Somalia? Just a yes or no, would be enough.

ummsalama can you also answer my question please.

^of course not, are you retarded?

what if the girl is 6 and has reached 'puberty'? would be interesting to see how the question and answers differ.

gays and lesbians are an alarming threat to the human civilazation, wipe them off

Yes i am over 20, be it by a year. I fail to see how that is relevant to the discussion on hand. I have nothing further to say except 'MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU, AND US ALL'