Based wrote:
In a report detailing the nefarious activities of various political actors in Somalia, the United Nations monitoring group on Somalia mentioned a large number of tax exemptions the PM requested. For the umpteenth time, had the monitoring group not felt something was a bit off, they would not have mentioned what would otherwise be a routine occurrence. I'm not sure why you're getting so touchy about me simply repeating what the monitoring group reported. Since you find this report "suspicious", I assume you think there's some vast UN conspiracy to defame Abdiweli.
There is no vast conspiracy, its just that I find this leaks suspicious, because it high lights what you in your own word describe as "routine" as evidence of fraud, I have read the whole thing, and there is actually nothing defamatory when it comes to abdiweli in this report , he defended himself appropriately and placed the burden of proof on the monitoring group, so far they have not furnished anything worth , being "touchy" about since the only people at the cross hares for now are faarmaajo and the two sharifs, which have so far avoided the spot light instead of defending their "honor". I like how you trying to make it seem like I am a conspiracy theorist , when in fact you are the one who is basing his argument on the hearsay claims of a "leaked" report, instead of making a logical connection as to why something seemingly insignificant and routine for most public service workers (requesting tax exemption for non-profit or other corps who fit the requirements ) is being archived as proof of fraudulent behavior. Instead you are contempt with regurgitating "take it at face value" as though the status of the monitoring group absolves from actually monitoring and archiving "evidence of fraud" , in the world of the sane, monitoring groups are subject to harsh criticism no matter their status, and it is because of this reason that they must have precise and damning evidence, it is because of this reason that I don't take what they say "at face value"
Based wrote:
No, the fact that they're the UN Monitoring Group on Somalia should be enough to warrant legitimacy. When they say they have hard evidence, we take their claims at face value. Your opinion matters very little when the Security Council will take the Monitoring Group's report into consideration when they're formulating their new Somalia policy. Once again, your insinuations that there is some sort of conspiracy by the group is baffling, to say the least.
What conspiracy, I have said that I find this report ...not even report this "leak" suspicious, where is my grand conspiracy? among the biggest monitoring groups in the world, the UN Human right monitoring group, and the united states Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) monitoring groups regularly get attacked for misrepresentation or hiding/exaggerating evidence, if every report they made was taken "at face value" , I can guarantee you that many world leaders and corporations would be in trouble, the bigger they are the harder they fall. This is why most monitoring groups go through a lengthy process of research, most often publishing their findings tens/hundreds of years after the fact, they know that they cannot be discredited for being late but they can be discredited for being inaccurate or outright deceitful. As of this moment this report is nothing more than a "leak" when the actual report is made available to the public, and there is
evidence "beyond reasonable doubt' I will believe it, you can harp this "conspiracy" point all you want, just know that it only make you look lazy and incapable of making sound judgement based on
evidence.
Based wrote:
This is your original statement: "the articles states that during faarmajos tenure as a Pm 15 million were donated by the AUE, but that abdiweli who was working under faarmaajo at that time claimed only 10 million was received, and that of that 10 million 3.5 million was mismanaged by Pm faarmaajo, the money was not the responsibility of abdiweli as it was not donated during his term , it was the responsibility of farmaajo, abdiweli is actually defending faarmajo in a way when he says only ten million was donated, but that 3.5 of the ten million was mismanaged, notice he never made a claim about corruption. There is Absolutely nothing in this report that incriminates abdiweli. Thats the simple truth if you wanna argue for the sake of argument we can do that to."
You seem to have changed your argument. As I said after your bizarre comment above, the $15 million reported was actually $10 mil to Farmaajo's admin and $5 mil to Abdiweli, as confirmed by the Monitoring Group. I am not sure where you got the idea that Abdiweli was "protecting" Farmaajo and supposedly claimed they (Farmaajo & Abdiweli) only received 10 mil. Abdiweli was actually trying to claim that Farmaajo's admin embezzled 3.5 mil, which the SEMG could not substantiate.
As for the rest, as I said, the monitoring group was not able to verify Abdiweli's outlandish claims of fund mismanagement, which you now have seemed to realize. However, they have been able to verify Abdiweli's office apparently embezzling $1 mil of South Sudani aid. As I said, you casting doubts on the legitimacy of this monitoring group means little in the greater scheme of things. If you wish to continue believing the UN is out to get Abdiweli, that's your prerogative, I suppose. The UN, however, will use this report to decide what to do with Somalia come August 20th.
There is nothing bizarre about what I said or what abdiweli said for that matter , he stated that faarmaajo admin misappropriated fund in the ball park of 3.5mil, there is nothing outlandish about that statement, it is refutable and subject to the laws of unbiased objective information gathering , something monitoring groups are paid millions each year to do, the strange thing is not that he made that claim , its that the accused refuses to present his side of the story and instead has decided to go into a form of hiding. At this point this point this "report" has not been compiled in a manner that would entitle it being presented to high ranking members of the united nations so that they can make a decision about it. It is compiled in a way that only serves to enlist emotional connections, based on predetermined bias against those accused, there is ..I hesitate to even say "light evidence" which for the most part can be explained by lack of a functioning governmental hierarchy , or system of justice.
A senior TFG official confirmed to the SEMG that the TFG did indeed receive the US$1 million from South Sudan.59 According to internal TFG documents obtained by the SEMG, the PM instructed the Finance Ministry to disburse the funds directly to individual government officials, MPs and political figures, including US$121,700 to his own office. No further information is available as to what these individuals did with the money, or whether any of these funds were in fact spent on reconciliation efforts.
There is nothing in the above statement that incriminates the PM, nor is there any evidence of embezzlement (where do you even get these claims from?) , until recently somalia has been at a cross roads on deciding who to manufacture it currency, there are no systems for accurately managing and distributing funds, most often than not a signature marked with an X and a small sentence regarding what it will be spent on is the only fund tracking system the TGF has, Mr fartaag who a while back did his own research was professional enough to tell that to his audience before hand, so that there was some context.
The second part marked in red is more of the baseline between journalism and fanaticism , and where this whole "report " start to get gray, its hard to explain to an outsider why having proof of guilt is important, rather than insinuating evidence, the office of the Pm might well have distributed the fund to parliamentarians so that projects could be funded or it might have gone to the pockets of corrupt politician, in either case the person who make the allegation has the burden of proof, this is not only for criminal trials but also the litmus test for a report by a monitoring either being presented to high ranking members of world government or being tossed aside as nothing more than fadhikudirir gossip of the day. Lets just see how this whole "report" pans out, I for one want to see how much corruption is going on and who the actual ring leaders are.
it is working isn't it.
