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Re: Habaryoonis invited All the Habar awal elders to Sanaag

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suldaan siciid,

ok. let me go update my ignore list. :lol:

thankx for the advice and ramadan kariim once again. :mrgreen:
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When will the other half of Garhajis be invited to Sanaag or are they deemed not important?

Is Garhajisnimo dead?
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They were invited but apparently Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Cabdiqadir was ill to travel that far. :lol: There is rumours that there might be a future Garhajis conference in Maydh.
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Make sure there is plenty of qamadi to go around, we dont want a repeat of what happened last time the qamadi ran out. :eat: :D
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Don't worry they will not fight over arid deserts like what happened recently between the Hartis in Docmo and xasuuqi Cagaaran.
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InvisibleHand wrote:When will the other half of Garhajis be invited to Sanaag or are they deemed not important?

Is Garhajisnimo dead?
Ciidagale iyo Habar Yonis are both sons of Ismail Sh. Isxaaq therefore why does one member of family need an invitation to visit the house of his brother. Doesn't make sense.
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SIciid iyo Somalistan,

Ciidagale waxba ha isku dhejinina. Ciidagale waynu wada dhalanay oo waa walaalaheen laakiin wax kale inagama dhexeeyaan.Inagu Ciidagale waynu soo dhowaynaa oo waa tolkeen ayaynu nidhaahnaa laakiin Ciidagale waa cadowga Habar Yoonis.Suldaan Maxamed Cabdiqaadir shirka waa lagu casuumay laakiin wuu diiday inuu yimaado kadibna shir Jibriil Abokor Gebiley ku qabsanayeen ayuu tegey. Ciidagale ilaa odaygooda ugu weyne Cabdiwaraabe ayaa shirka diidanaa oo lahaa dawladu shirka ha joojiso. badankoodu sidaa ayay u fikiraan oo HY ma maqli karaan horumarkoodana way ka xunyihiin.Ciidagale Isaaqa kale ayaan kaga kalsoonahay. dagaaladii 2006/2007 ka hor HY weligeed wax dhibaato ah umay geysan CG oo iyagaaba marwalba caawiya oo u gurmada markay cid la dagaalamayaan laakiin iyagu way ina necebyihiin. Waa la garan la`yahay meeshay reerku cuqdada noocaasa ka qaadeen.
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kaliil i disagree. Whatever happened 6 years ago doesn't really effect the relation between those two communities. If we are to base our judgement on few odayaal we could also mention when the southern Hargeysa elders condemned Kulmiye following the Cabdirahman Cabdiqadir incident. Tas maxad iskaga indho tirtay? waliga la isma daho daadka kugu dhow ayaa cadow kugu ah, ileen meel uu ku joojiismo division ma jiro ee bariina waxa la dihi doona Isaxaaq iyo Ismaaciil ba iis neceb, kadibna Ismaaciil Carre gudihiis lol. Hadaladas oo kale wa la iska ilaaliya wa waxa ay cadowga ruunta ku farxan, midniimadana ayaa laga shaqeeya. Ta labaad Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Cabdiqadir wu tageersana shirka, Cabdi Waraabana wuxu diidiina iis qabsi ama inu meesha khilaaf ka dhasho. So take it as a family member concerning with his brother. At the end day of the odayaashan are a old generation and will pass away, it is up to the new generation of Habar Yoonis and Cidagale to tighten their relations.
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kaliil wrote:SIciid iyo Somalistan,

Ciidagale waxba ha isku dhejinina. Ciidagale waynu wada dhalanay oo waa walaalaheen laakiin wax kale inagama dhexeeyaan.Inagu Ciidagale waynu soo dhowaynaa oo waa tolkeen ayaynu nidhaahnaa laakiin Ciidagale waa cadowga Habar Yoonis.Suldaan Maxamed Cabdiqaadir shirka waa lagu casuumay laakiin wuu diiday inuu yimaado kadibna shir Jibriil Abokor Gebiley ku qabsanayeen ayuu tegey. Ciidagale ilaa odaygooda ugu weyne Cabdiwaraabe ayaa shirka diidanaa oo lahaa dawladu shirka ha joojiso. badankoodu sidaa ayay u fikiraan oo HY ma maqli karaan horumarkoodana way ka xunyihiin.Ciidagale Isaaqa kale ayaan kaga kalsoonahay. dagaaladii 2006/2007 ka hor HY weligeed wax dhibaato ah umay geysan CG oo iyagaaba marwalba caawiya oo u gurmada markay cid la dagaalamayaan laakiin iyagu way ina necebyihiin. Waa la garan la`yahay meeshay reerku cuqdada noocaasa ka qaadeen.


:o :o :shock: :shock:
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Siciid85 wrote:kaliil i disagree. Whatever happened 6 years ago doesn't really effect the relation between those two communities. If we are to base our judgement on few odayaal we could also mention when the southern Hargeysa elders condemned Kulmiye following the Cabdirahman Cabdiqadir incident. Tas maxad iskaga indho tirtay? waliga la isma daho daadka kugu dhow ayaa cadow kugu ah, ileen meel uu ku joojiismo division ma jiro ee bariina waxa la dihi doona Isaxaaq iyo Ismaaciil ba iis neceb, kadibna Ismaaciil Carre gudihiis lol. Hadaladas oo kale wa la iska ilaaliya wa waxa ay cadowga ruunta ku farxan, midniimadana ayaa laga shaqeeya. Ta labaad Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Cabdiqadir wu tageersana shirka, Cabdi Waraabana wuxu diidiina iis qabsi ama inu meesha khilaaf ka dhasho. So take it as a family member concerning with his brother. At the end day of the odayaashan are a old generation and will pass away, it is up to the new generation of Habar Yoonis and Cidagale to tighten their relations.
Siciid taasi waa adiga fikirkaaga kugu qabsanmaayona haddaad Garxajisnimo aaminsantahay. Habar Yoonis weligood waxay rabeen ina labada reere walaalaha ahi isku duubnaadaan laakiin CG taa ma fahansana weligood iyo ilaa haddana HY cadow ayay u arkaan. anigu 2006/2007 wixii dhacay ka hadlimaayo.Waan ogahay inay CG abti kuu yihiin laakiin xaqiiqdaan ka hadlayaa. HY ilaahay ayaa laandheere ka dhigay oo inay cid kale urursadaan uma baahna. HY ilaahay mooyaane cid kale uma baahna markaa Garxajis iyo waxa la sheegayo cirka ha lala tago.HY iyo CG xoolohoodu Hawdka xiitaa hadda ma wada daaqaan oo la isma dhexgalo.sida hala kala ahaado oo hala kala baxo.
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:lol:

We will discuss this internal affairs further in the private group soon, sometime this week or next week inshallah. :up:
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Here in hargeysa hy and ciidagale get along pretty much fine the only problem is the sons of Garxajis not having political unit is because of they are two big some say history teaches us that the Habaryoonis taught the rest of the isaaq to rebel against sultaan guleeds kingdom in the 17 century some ciidagalle hold some grudgess but thats just politics besides but keep in mind Hy and ciidagale besides sharing one ancestor ismaciil Garxajis but keep in mind they only livetogether in hargeysa maroodijeex and in the hawd not in the other major cities Hy lives sida ceerigabo oodweyne burco etc in taasa keeni karta inanay is fahmin dhanka siyasada but that said siciid is right lets discuss this in the private group.
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HY best friend has historically been HJ. They are the best of friends worst of enemies. :D
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skywalker25 wrote:HY best friend has historically been HJ. They are the best of friends worst of enemies. :D
Not true Hy and Hj were never reall friends or allies not even political despite they living together in major Somaliland cities they never had a political allience the closest was the SNM movement in the war for liberation but that was something of all isaaqs. Hy had a political alliance with Habarawal in the 50s Sayid Ahmed al azhaari Cali meygaag samatar and Maxammad xaaji ibrahim cigaal SNL.
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khalid ali wrote:
skywalker25 wrote:HY best friend has historically been HJ. They are the best of friends worst of enemies. :D
Not true Hy and Hj were never reall friends or allies not even political despite they living together in major Somaliland cities they never had a political allience the closest was the SNM movement in the war for liberation but that was something of all isaaqs. Hy had a political alliance with Habarawal in the 50s Sayid Ahmed al azhaari Cali meygaag samatar and Maxammad xaaji ibrahim cigaal SNL.
Lol

War your talking about politics which is decided by the political climate at that paricluar time. For example HJ and HA are today political connected by Kulmiye but in reality they share very few interests between them. They dont meet anywhere or share any towns. Just a politically conveniant relationship. The same for Igaal and Meygaag Samatar. It was just a political unity to keep out Micheal Mariano.

HY and HJ share numerous towns, from sanaag all the way to the Hawd. They fight outsiders together and share the same common enemies. HA doesnt even share land with 10% of HY. Yawle and many other poets from both sides confirm the friendship between HY and HJ..
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