The Gersony Report on the SNM and SNA in 1988

[original dervish]

No.....they`re actually engaging with Somalia in a positive manner.
Life`s a bitch when your so full of hate eh?

[Thuganomics]

Life`s a bitch when your so full of hate eh?

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Ain't that a fact

[SahanGalbeed]

thuga , my dear cousin I don't answer these useless daarod anymore , ma'ogtahay ?
Waa iska "waste of time "

[BigBreak]

look at da cowards chatting shit here

[Grant]

Grant,

I’m afraid you’re out of your depth when it comes to Somaliland & Somalia affairs. Forgive for saying this, but your ignorance knows no bounds. You’re stuck in time and unfortunately in decline. Your retired ideas do not sway any one with knowledge.

As for this article, there are a number of things that need to be understood before it can be used as an authentic source for the conflict in 1988-1991.

1. The US was the closest ally to the Afweyne regime. At the time this report was being written the USA was supplying and arming Afweyne. They were also invested greatly in the oil exploration in the north. As such, any report

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/ ... a_1990.pdf

Thug,

indeed, an interesting article. You will notice it was written after Gersony, discusses him on pages 197-98 and disagrees only with the timing of the Government arming the refugees in the camps. The US Congress and the Reagan Administration were working at cross purposes at this time, but 1987 is about the year US aid to the Barre Regime became limited. Sadly, the Cold War was still more of an issue than human rights.

To me, the most significant point about the Gersony report is the degree to which the SNM blended into the civilian population. I can forgive the SNM for not having uniforms, but it seems somewhat disingenuous then to claim the Barre Regime targeted so many civilians. Did you notice Barre also hit the Majertain?

Salah,

Did you know the Brits had separate treaties with each of the clans? Once they were gone, there wasn't any Somaliland; in six days there was Union with the South. The Gersony report makes it clear why Isaaqland is what it is. The SNM was never inclusive of the non-Isaaq clans.

[Somalistan]

Grant,

Why the fuck you referring to our country as Isaaqland? It's Somaliland, You silly silly old man. It seems you have reached that age where you need to wear diapers because it seems you don't know when and where to shit. Nacalaa tullah calayk yaa f-king old white bastard.

[Thuganomics]

Thug,

indeed, an interesting article. You will notice it was written after Gersony, discusses him on pages 197-98 and disagrees only with the timing of the Government arming the refugees in the camps. The US Congress and the Reagan Administration were working at cross purposes at this time, but 1987 is about the year US aid to the Barre Regime became limited. Sadly, the Cold War was still more of an issue than human rights.

To me, the most significant point about the Gersony report is the degree to which the SNM blended into the civilian population. I can forgive the SNM for not having uniforms, but it seems somewhat disingenuous then to claim the Barre Regime targeted so many civilians. Did you notice Barre also hit the Majertain?

Salah,

Did you know the Brits had separate treaties with each of the clans? Once they were gone, there wasn't any Somaliland; in six days there was Union with the South. The Gersony report makes it clear why Isaaqland is what it is. The SNM was never inclusive of the non-Isaaq clans.

There's a lot more disparity than what you mentioned.Looks to me you just took a quick peruse and selected what little that did no conflict with the US report.
Did you read about the Extra Judicial killings of the Isaq people even before the SNM invaded
The Massacre of Isaq elders in 1984
The Gabiley Massacre
The setting of the Hangash Force who were called the Isaq Exterminators (Dabar goynata Isaq)
The destruction of the water resevours used by Isaq nomads)
These are just a few points and all before there was even an SNM presence inside the boarders of the old SDR

[grandpakhalif]

It's funny how a white male from America can even see through the Somaliland facade.

[original dervish]

you gotta love em.

[FarhanYare]

That was Beled-Xaawo in the worst in the civil war. We have posted new pictures in the Gedo section which considering how much you lurk there you have seen. And Beled-Xaawo, being about one of dozen Marehan towns in Somalia (as much as all Isaaq) and because of its brunt in the civil war may not be Hargeisa or Kimsaayo but it sure beats any town Habar Yonis can claim in Somalia as theirs only. Beled-Xaawo is one of how many 100% Marehan towns. What is a 100% HY town that mythical hamlet Maydh you keep harping about?

You hit the nail on the head.

Here comes Pinky with his pom poms

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